Mahewman
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Yeah, but 12 mos ago was very different...he didn't have that horrible contract, or played so poorly the year before (Campbell is pretty much a 1 year wonder, imo). Even if he played OK, he's not an upgrade on Vanecek who is cheaper too, so why would NJ do this? They will only be interested in a G if it's a clear upgrade, otherwise, it's pointless...
I could maybe see them having interest in Gibson at 50% retained with something like ANA 2nd rounder in 2025 if Gibson doesn't meet some performance metrics (games played/started) next the next two seasons, in exchange for Vanecek...this would be only if NJ thinks the change of scenery will awaken Gibson. This is different than Campbell as they have *very* different histories - Gibson was considered a top 5 G for a good 4-5 seasons not so long ago. - mventres
Let me preface this by saying, I understand how bad Anaheim has been but Gibson is arguably been a bottom 5 goalie in league the last 5 years. He does not look very comfortable in net anymore.
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Let me preface this by saying, I understand how bad Anaheim has been but Gibson is arguably been a bottom 5 goalie in league the last 5 years. He does not look very comfortable in net anymore. - Mahewman
Gibson a bottom 5 goalie? Campbell a better option? My goodness. Let's look at SV%, just for a simple stat.
Last year, Stuart Skinner played 50 games and had a .914 SV%. Jack Campbell played 36 games, in front of the same skaters in the same system, and had a .888 SV%. That's a massive difference. 914 vs 888. Why did Skinner look so competent and Campbell look so awful? Now the eye test...Campbell was flopping around and basically guessing on shots. His confidence was shot. Maybe he bounces back. But no contending team is going to take that risk when his contract runs at $5M x 4 more years.
Now look at Gibson. He played 53 games and had a .899 SV% last year. Not great. But still better than Campbell. As a goalie would you rather play behind the Oilers skaters, or the dumpster fire in Anaheim? It's no contest.
Any competent GM would rather take the risk that Gibson improves from his .899 SV% behind a better roster, than Jack Campbell somehow improving from his .888. So again, there is zero chance that NJ is looking at Jack Campbell. It's a laughable story that makes no sense at all. |
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Mahewman
Season Ticket Holder Boston Bruins |
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Location: NH Joined: 07.01.2009
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Gibson a bottom 5 goalie? Campbell a better option? My goodness. Let's look at SV%, just for a simple stat.
Last year, Stuart Skinner played 50 games and had a .914 SV%. Jack Campbell played 36 games, in front of the same skaters in the same system, and had a .888 SV%. That's a massive difference. 914 vs 888. Why did Skinner look so competent and Campbell look so awful? Now the eye test...Campbell was flopping around and basically guessing on shots. His confidence was shot. Maybe he bounces back. But no contending team is going to take that risk when his contract runs at $5M x 4 more years.
Now look at Gibson. He played 53 games and had a .899 SV% last year. Not great. But still better than Campbell. As a goalie would you rather play behind the Oilers skaters, or the dumpster fire in Anaheim? It's no contest.
Any competent GM would rather take the risk that Gibson improves from his .899 SV% behind a better roster, than Jack Campbell somehow improving from his .888. So again, there is zero chance that NJ is looking at Jack Campbell. It's a laughable story that makes no sense at all. - Cooleus
Looking at your simple stat. Jack Campbell has a better save percentage than Gibson over the last 5 seasons. I understand Campbell had a horrendous year last year but Gibson has ranked goalie #56 in your simple stat over the last 5 seasons. They are both mediocre goalies at this point and Gibson is making 6.4 for 4 more.
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Darksyde
Season Ticket Holder Montreal Canadiens |
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Location: Inside Henny's Head, ON Joined: 07.11.2007
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If the Campbell deal falls through, then NJ probably signs Yamamoto instead. - Cooleus
As the goalie... |
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HonkyTonkMan
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Location: Home to ruined prospects and overpaid slugs', AB Joined: 06.10.2015
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Ek, please when you make up this click bait, excuse me "rumor" try to use more plausible "connections" than "Campbell's soup is from New Jersey, so people with the last name Campbell make sense to be traded there..."
At some point, perhaps you are very near or there already, you'll lose your audience completely...we can only take so much of having our intelligence insulted before checking out say hockeyfeed or similar sites... - mventres
Lighten up, Francis |
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Darksyde
Season Ticket Holder Montreal Canadiens |
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Location: Inside Henny's Head, ON Joined: 07.11.2007
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Looking at your simple stat. Jack Campbell has a better save percentage than Gibson over the last 5 seasons. I understand Campbell had a horrendous year last year but Gibson has ranked goalie #56 in your simple stat over the last 5 seasons. They are both mediocre goalies at this point and Gibson is making 6.4 for 4 more. - Mahewman
Given the awful defense provided by both Toronto AND Edmonton, going to a team with actual defensive structure could catapult Soupy's career. |
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SteveJ123
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Location: Tedenby over Carlson every single time - David Conte, NJ Joined: 08.22.2014
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If this happened, I'd suggest a welfare check on Fitzy because making a move for Campbell sounds like somebody who's under duress! |
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Looking at your simple stat. Jack Campbell has a better save percentage than Gibson over the last 5 seasons. I understand Campbell had a horrendous year last year but Gibson has ranked goalie #56 in your simple stat over the last 5 seasons. They are both mediocre goalies at this point and Gibson is making 6.4 for 4 more. - Mahewman
You don't seem to grasp the concept. Jack Campbell has played on far better teams than John Gibson. So Campbell should have materially better stats. Last year, Campbell played for the 6th best team in the NHL, whereas Anaheim was dead last. So shouldn't Campbell have vastly better stats? But he doesn't. Because he sucks. Oh here we go, Oilers were a good team but terrible defensively. OK, they ranked 17th in goals against. Where was Anaheim? Dead last. 32nd. Anaheim gave up 78 more goals than the Oilers last year. Keep going back. Gibson consistently played on defensively awful teams while Campbell benefitted from teams that were overall better, and defensively better. In Campbell's best year in Toronto, the Leafs were ranked 7th defensively. They have a reputation as run and gun, but that's not accurate. That's buzzcast stuff. But we all here you loud and clear...Campbell AND Gibson are both mediocre. OK sure. |
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Mahewman
Season Ticket Holder Boston Bruins |
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Location: NH Joined: 07.01.2009
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You don't seem to grasp the concept. Jack Campbell has played on far better teams than John Gibson. So Campbell should have materially better stats. Last year, Campbell played for the 6th best team in the NHL, whereas Anaheim was dead last. So shouldn't Campbell have vastly better stats? But he doesn't. Because he sucks. Oh here we go, Oilers were a good team but terrible defensively. OK, they ranked 17th in goals against. Where was Anaheim? Dead last. 32nd. Anaheim gave up 78 more goals than the Oilers last year. Keep going back. Gibson consistently played on defensively awful teams while Campbell benefitted from teams that were overall better, and defensively better. In Campbell's best year in Toronto, the Leafs were ranked 7th defensively. They have a reputation as run and gun, but that's not accurate. That's buzzcast stuff. But we all here you loud and clear...Campbell AND Gibson are both mediocre. OK sure.  - Cooleus
I started by saying, I understand how bad Anaheim is. Precisely why we’re not discussing goals against average.
I watched (unfortunately) plenty of ducks games last year. Gibson has either given up on that team or just isn’t very good anymore. Probably a mixture of both to be honest.
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Beergu
Edmonton Oilers |
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Location: AB Joined: 08.15.2008
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I mean... they were interested in him 12 months ago so it is not really out of the realm of possibility that they have had a conversation with Edmonton. Saying zero percent chance might be worse than the soup fact. - Mahewman
So you're saying there's a chance..... |
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After we trade for Jack 'Soupy' Cambell can we all chant he's 'simmering for a shutout' while he's in net? If not we can go with the standard NJ 'you suck!' chant... Asking for a friend.
P.S. He's better than John 'Guitar' Gibson anytime. Although I did enjoy the brisk debate and some of those points really struck a chord with me....
now there is vomit in my mouth. My vomit. Just saying. I didn't want anyone thinking did someone else threw up in my mouth. Its how I react to Cambell's soup. Unless it's tomato and it's rainy out. Then that's great. As a meal, but not as a goaltender. Just saying. |
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Mahewman
Season Ticket Holder Boston Bruins |
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Location: NH Joined: 07.01.2009
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Mr._Devil
New Jersey Devils |
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Location: NJ Joined: 07.08.2007
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After we trade for Jack 'Soupy' Cambell can we all chant he's 'simmering for a shutout' while he's in net? If not we can go with the standard NJ 'you suck!' chant... Asking for a friend.
P.S. He's better than John 'Guitar' Gibson anytime. Although I did enjoy the brisk debate and some of those points really struck a chord with me....
now there is vomit in my mouth. My vomit. Just saying. I didn't want anyone thinking did someone else threw up in my mouth. Its how I react to Cambell's soup. Unless it's tomato and it's rainy out. Then that's great. As a meal, but not as a goaltender. Just saying. - Queenie_5_hole
Good, you deserve to have vomit in your mouth. I hope it tastes bad. And, I would love to vomit in your mouth. |
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