We should have just picked Leonard and waited for Michkov to slip to the second round like we were told would happen.
- MBFlyerfan

Michkov was ready to slip, except the stupid Flyers were in the way. There was a lot of talent on the board at pick 7 and 22, and IMO the Flyers whiffed badly to really bolster their forward group, especially down the middle where they needed help the most. But hey, like I said, they got an A draft grade! Unfortunately, the Flyers' two top prospects were not at development camp and no explanation if they will ever be. Nice!

Michkov was ready to slip, except the stupid Flyers were in the way. There was a lot of talent on the board at pick 7 and 22, and IMO the Flyers whiffed badly to really bolster their forward group, especially down the middle where they needed help the most. But hey, like I said, they got an A draft grade! Unfortunately, the Flyers' two top prospects were not at development camp and no explanation if they will ever be. Nice!
- jd250

I heard they were training this summer with Ellis

Michkov was ready to slip, except the stupid Flyers were in the way. There was a lot of talent on the board at pick 7 and 22, and IMO the Flyers whiffed badly to really bolster their forward group, especially down the middle where they needed help the most. But hey, like I said, they got an A draft grade! Unfortunately, the Flyers' two top prospects were not at development camp and no explanation if they will ever be. Nice!
- jd250

I actually think the Michkov timing could be great. In 3 years time there is a chance that some of our prospects could be turning a corner, like Cutter, York, Foerester. Frost and Farabee , Tippet, maybe TK, will be in their prime. Then we are adding a polished player in Michkov on an entry level deal, serious value for his production

A former teammate of Michkov's was quoted as saying


"He doesn't listen to anything the veterans tell him, he doesn't listen to the coaches, he doesn't hesitate to laugh at them and send them away. He only does what he wants.

We really tried to give him a chance and understand him, but we realized he's just a piece of s-h-i-t."

I personally don't take much from this. Just something to mention while we're in the dog days of summer.

I actually think the Michkov timing could be great. In 3 years time there is a chance that some of our prospects could be turning a corner, like Cutter, York, Foerester. Frost and Farabee , Tippet, maybe TK, will be in their prime. Then we are adding a polished player in Michkov on an entry level deal, serious value for his production
- ClaudeFather

would have to think goal tending would be a strength at that time.

would have to think goal tending would be a strength at that time.
- wcorvette

Dcore in general is such a question mark though, that’s probably the toughest rebuild

Everything you said here is pure speculation and assumption, nothing has been confirmed. Bottom line is 19-20 year old players can never play enough hockey. Also the money is not an issue at all, most of the time vets pick up the tab or help out the younger players in this regard. He should have been at the development camp and the fact that he wasn't and the Flyers nor Gauthier has definitively stated anything about it is concerning.
- jd250

Pure speculation huh?

Did he have to pay his own way including all expenses? Yes, Fact
Did he just return from Europe after playing the worlds? Yes...FACT
Does team usa junior camp start in August? Yes...FACT
Does college and his college team training camp start in September or early October?? Yes...Fact
Did his agent say he needed a break. (according ASF, yes, so Ill take that as fact.


And as far as vets picking up his tab, you are flat out full of poop. That would not only break the spirit of the NCAA rules, it WOULD break the NCAA rules.

Michkov was ready to slip, except the stupid Flyers were in the way. There was a lot of talent on the board at pick 7 and 22, and IMO the Flyers whiffed badly to really bolster their forward group, especially down the middle where they needed help the most. But hey, like I said, they got an A draft grade! Unfortunately, the Flyers' two top prospects were not at development camp and no explanation if they will ever be. Nice!
- jd250

Ready to slip? Yeah, to #8.

You are Orwellian in your ability to make a statement, be proven wrong, then make a new statement convinced you never made the first statement.

As for Michkov, he was attending development camp for the team he actually plays for. Do you live under a rock?

Ok, here is a rational retort. People coming over the Mexican border are coming here because their own governments are incentivizing them to do so. In the case of Michkov, and other "top" Russian players, it's an entirely different situation. Russia is essentially at war with the United States and most of Europe, and as it pertains to hockey, written and unwritten rules and prior negotiations are being ignored. Russia has ZERO incentive to allow Michkov to play in the NHL, and on top of that, there is speculation that this may have been the reason Michkov's dad was murdered.
- jd250

If that were even remotely the case why would Russia allow him to come to draft? What’s the logic in that? Also what’s the logic that other Russian players are to this day coming over? Russia actually has plenty of incentive to allow players to come to nhl. They get paid in a lot of cases. Money always is an incentive.

Ready to slip? Yeah, to #8.

You are Orwellian in your ability to make a statement, be proven wrong, then make a new statement convinced you never made the first statement.

As for Michkov, he was attending development camp for the team he actually plays for. Do you live under a rock?
- MBFlyerfan

I read he didn't want to go to Arizona and Washington. So worst case, 9.

Montreal really screwed the pooch IMO.

I read he didn't want to go to Arizona and Washington. So worst case, 9.

Montreal really screwed the pooch IMO.
- Pelle31Forever

Their fans certainly think so. And according to ASF, (see above video) he ghosted teams including Arizona after meeting with the Flyers.

My buddy Ron Hextall (and company) from 2014 to 2018 drafted G-Sandstrom, G-Tomek, G-Fedotov, G-Hart, G-Ustimenko and G-Ersson. Just sayin.

What’s the threshold? Quick didn’t touch the ice.
- ClaudeFather

Hard for a backup goalie to touch the ice. Pretty sure there are different rules for goalies

MOUs aren’t usually legally binding. Neither party has to do what they agree to do. They can walk away or change their expectations. Where do you go from there? Money money money.

I don't know how any Flyers fan can feel good about this entire situation with Russia and the NHL, or the world for that matter. I will say it again, it was a HUGE mistake by Briere to draft Michkov. If he is the star that everyone says he is and Putin pretty much runs the KHL, why on Earth would Russia ever let the kid out of the country? Furthermore, does anyone honestly think Fedotov wanted to sign another contract to play in the KHL instead of coming to play for the Flyers? This entire situation is a cluster-bomb and the Flyers in typical fashion can't seem to find themselves anywhere else but the middle of it. With so much talent on the board in this draft when the Flyers picked at #7 and#22, to come away with Michkov, who I don't believe will ever be allowed to leave Russia until he is like 30 years old, and Bonk who was projected to be a 2nd round pick at best is a complete disaster for this franchise and will set them back another 5 years at least!
- jd250

You may be proven right one day on the Michkov pick but I contend it was the right one even though I fully share skepticism with regards to the over all situation. I would have been fine with Perrault at # 22 but really like the overall skill set of Bonk and think it may end up bein a very solid pick. As far as projections, Who cares after the first 10-12 guys. You have to trust the scouts and hope they get it right. It’s not about the best guy at 18 years old it’s projecting who’s the best at 23.

I read he didn't want to go to Arizona and Washington. So worst case, 9.

Montreal really screwed the pooch IMO.
- Pelle31Forever

I was was pretty sure Michkov wanted no part of Washington. Why would he want to live in Ovi’s shadow? There’s a good chance some of his Flyer enthusiasm was more not wanting to be a Cap.

Michkov was ready to slip, except the stupid Flyers were in the way. There was a lot of talent on the board at pick 7 and 22, and IMO the Flyers whiffed badly to really bolster their forward group, especially down the middle where they needed help the most. But hey, like I said, they got an A draft grade! Unfortunately, the Flyers' two top prospects were not at development camp and no explanation if they will ever be. Nice!
- jd250

He would have not gotten past Washington. 100%.

A former teammate of Michkov's was quoted as saying


"He doesn't listen to anything the veterans tell him, he doesn't listen to the coaches, he doesn't hesitate to laugh at them and send them away. He only does what he wants.

We really tried to give him a chance and understand him, but we realized he's just a piece of s-h-i-t."

I personally don't take much from this. Just something to mention while we're in the dog days of summer.
- Pelle31Forever

I don’t take much from it either. Jealousy is not a good look.

I actually think the Michkov timing could be great. In 3 years time there is a chance that some of our prospects could be turning a corner, like Cutter, York, Foerester. Frost and Farabee , Tippet, maybe TK, will be in their prime. Then we are adding a polished player in Michkov on an entry level deal, serious value for his production
- ClaudeFather

For sure. The pick, with a willingness to wait fits a time line for the Flyers. The pick made sense on a lot of fronts.

A former teammate of Michkov's was quoted as saying


"He doesn't listen to anything the veterans tell him, he doesn't listen to the coaches, he doesn't hesitate to laugh at them and send them away. He only does what he wants.

We really tried to give him a chance and understand him, but we realized he's just a piece of s-h-i-t."

I personally don't take much from this. Just something to mention while we're in the dog days of summer.
- Pelle31Forever

If that’s the case then the attitude will have time to adjust in Russia over the next few years. Simply put that way of thinking does not work in a team atmosphere. Might end up being a good thing to let him mature a little back home.

My buddy Ron Hextall (and company) from 2014 to 2018 drafted G-Sandstrom, G-Tomek, G-Fedotov, G-Hart, G-Ustimenko and G-Ersson. Just sayin.
- Dave21Brown

You’re just sayin? Briere needs to do better?

For sure. The pick, with a willingness to wait fits a time line for the Flyers. The pick made sense on a lot of fronts.
- landros 2

It’s all starting to make sense! Nice to see something outside the norm for this organization

The reason people like the Rotenbergs can avoid the worst effect of sanctions is because how easy it has become, over the past 20-30 years, to disguise true ownership of any company/shares behind "shell entities". You can register the HQ of a company in a low tax haven (Bermuda, British Virgin Islands, Monaco, Cyprus, and to a lesser extent, Poland and Ireland, are the biggest culprits). You can then have company A be owned by company B which is owned by company C etc etc etc scattered all over the world.

The scale of the way this system is rigged was exposed in the Panama papers.
- PT21

That's how the pharmaceutical companies function as well

This is awesome.