Matt Dumba is still out there as a free agent. Of course he isn't EK but that's not a bad backup plan for 0 assets.

Then just find a way to ditch some bad contracts... add Tatar and Zadina... still have a chance to trade for another impact player...

So would we have rather given up what DET gave up to get Debrincat under $8m.... or lose even more assets and cap space for EK?
- YouMeAndDupuis9

Debrincat only was willing to sign in Detroit. That's why the deal was done. He didn't want the Islanders or Anaheim at 8 years.

Very different. Hoping more teams are willing to do this. Sick of everyone getting Long ass deals that can't get traded. Didn't spend a lot to acquire either.
- burgh4life87

I've been saying this for awhile now. Matthews is signing a short term deal and so should all the other stars. We are already seeing players taking 1 to 3 year deals in this free agency. Mostly to cash in within the next time period of cap going up

I was reading on a few sites what the trade may look like this is one of the proposed trades:


Sharks receive:
Jeff Petry (35% retained through NSH)
Mikael Granlund (25% retained by PIT)
Drew O'Conner
2025 PIT 1st round pick

Penguins receive:
Erik Karlsson (50% retained by SJS)

Preds receive:
Casey DeSmith
2024 PIT 4th round pick
2025 SJS 3rd round pick
Jeff Petry (moved to SJS at 35% retained)


I wouldn't mind this trade at all. EK at 5.75 mil and move out 11.5 million in space which nets us EK and 6 million in cap space (roughly 4 million in cap space since we are over by 2 million).


Tarasenko, Tatar, Kane, Dumba, Kessel, Toews, and Suter are still available if we had that space. I still can't see a deal happening without POJ or Ty Smith not being included.

I forget who mentioned it here but, they made a good point. Our goalies will have a decent year mostly because we will be more defensively responsible.
- Brownsoldier

Jarry is good, it's his health. If you're talking about the other two then yeah I agree but Jarry can hold his own if healthy

I was reading on a few sites what the trade may look like this is one of the proposed trades:


Sharks receive:
Jeff Petry (35% retained through NSH)
Mikael Granlund (25% retained by PIT)
Drew O'Conner
2025 PIT 1st round pick

Penguins receive:
Erik Karlsson (50% retained by SJS)

Preds receive:
Casey DeSmith
2024 PIT 4th round pick
2025 SJS 3rd round pick
Jeff Petry (moved to SJS at 35% retained)


I wouldn't mind this trade at all. EK at 5.75 mil and move out 11.5 million in space which nets us EK and 6 million in cap space (roughly 4 million in cap space since we are over by 2 million).


Tarasenko, Tatar, Kane, Dumba, Kessel, Toews, and Suter are still available if we had that space. I still can't see a deal happening without POJ or Ty Smith not being included.
- 123Kid

Was the site legit that you saw this?

I was reading on a few sites what the trade may look like this is one of the proposed trades:


Sharks receive:
Jeff Petry (35% retained through NSH)
Mikael Granlund (25% retained by PIT)
Drew O'Conner
2025 PIT 1st round pick

Penguins receive:
Erik Karlsson (50% retained by SJS)

Preds receive:
Casey DeSmith
2024 PIT 4th round pick
2025 SJS 3rd round pick
Jeff Petry (moved to SJS at 35% retained)


I wouldn't mind this trade at all. EK at 5.75 mil and move out 11.5 million in space which nets us EK and 6 million in cap space (roughly 4 million in cap space since we are over by 2 million).


Tarasenko, Tatar, Kane, Dumba, Kessel, Toews, and Suter are still available if we had that space. I still can't see a deal happening without POJ or Ty Smith not being included.
- 123Kid

Preds aren’t locking up their last retention spot for CDS and a couple mid round picks. I would stop visiting whatever sites you saw this on.

I was reading on a few sites what the trade may look like this is one of the proposed trades:


Sharks receive:
Jeff Petry (35% retained through NSH)
Mikael Granlund (25% retained by PIT)
Drew O'Conner
2025 PIT 1st round pick

Penguins receive:
Erik Karlsson (50% retained by SJS)

Preds receive:
Casey DeSmith
2024 PIT 4th round pick
2025 SJS 3rd round pick
Jeff Petry (moved to SJS at 35% retained)


I wouldn't mind this trade at all. EK at 5.75 mil and move out 11.5 million in space which nets us EK and 6 million in cap space (roughly 4 million in cap space since we are over by 2 million).


Tarasenko, Tatar, Kane, Dumba, Kessel, Toews, and Suter are still available if we had that space. I still can't see a deal happening without POJ or Ty Smith not being included.
- 123Kid

Yeah this is a good deal. 2025 1st could end up pretty valuable but that's the only major asset.

DOC would hurt a bit, but not sure he'll ever get a fair shot to move up the lineup from Sully. But upside is limited compared to EK or even guys like Smith or POJ.

Regarding prospects playing this year, I've long maintained DOC's numbers in WBS were much better than any of the forward prospects (Nylander, Puustinen, Poulin) we mention so he should be the most likely to grab a third line spot. No guarantee he can hold it, but on this team they should try.

Regarding prospects playing this year, I've long maintained DOC's numbers in WBS were much better than any of the forward prospects (Nylander, Puustinen, Poulin) we mention so he should be the most likely to grab a third line spot. No guarantee he can hold it, but on this team they should try.
- Tojo.

Didn’t dubas just sign like a dozen doc level players?

Regarding prospects playing this year, I've long maintained DOC's numbers in WBS were much better than any of the forward prospects (Nylander, Puustinen, Poulin) we mention so he should be the most likely to grab a third line spot. No guarantee he can hold it, but on this team they should try.
- Tojo.

DOC should be our third line LW for sure.

Didn’t dubas just sign like a dozen doc level players?
- sammy87

No, if he did that would have been great. He signed a bunch of AHL/4th liners. Doc should be on the third line and Accari/Eller/Nylander etc... should be fighting for third line spots. That's as of now, we'll see what happens come training camp if there is other trades or signings.

No, if he did that would have been great. He signed a bunch of AHL/4th liners. Doc should be on the third line and Accari/Eller/Nylander etc... should be fighting for third line spots. That's as of now, we'll see what happens come training camp if there is other trades or signings.
- 668710

I think pius suter would have been a better pickup than most of these players. Excellent penalty killer and defensive forward. Much younger than our signings as well. He’s still available so maybe he just wants too much $ for his production.

I think pius suter would have been a better pickup than most of these players. Excellent penalty killer and defensive forward. Much younger than our signings as well. He’s still available so maybe he just wants too much $ for his production.
- 10inchTerror

Suter is pretty meh. Not the type of player you see on a playoff team imo.

Suter is pretty meh. Not the type of player you see on a playoff team imo.
- Feds91Stammer

So you are saying he would fit in perfectly with the rest of our bottom 6?

So you are saying he would fit in perfectly with the rest of our bottom 6?
- MacPatty

Hey now. Eller won a cup.

Didn’t dubas just sign like a dozen doc level players?
- sammy87

How many of those guys were point a game players in the AHL at 22? That's not a guarantee of success, but when a guy with that size who can skate decently does that, you should see what he can do at the NHL level. At least if you don't have good players already. Not play a bunch of retreads over him.

DOC should be our third line LW for sure.
- 668710

I like DOC, but if we are in the offseason saying that DOC is a surefire 3rd liner for us we are screwed. He's the guy you want to have on the 4th line who can step up into the 3rd line if there are injuries. But then again it all depends on the mix.

I think the H-B-K line was the perfect 3rd line.

H - Fast pressure forechecker who can be first in on the forecheck but also play solid d.
B - 2 way center who can distribute the puck and isn't a total suck on offence.
K - Pure scorer who can make something out of nothing on offence, even if their 200ft game is not strong.

DOC could fit the Hagelin role potentially, but if you don't have someone who can create offence on the 3rd line you don't have an HBK line.

So you are saying he would fit in perfectly with the rest of our bottom 6?
- MacPatty

It would be funny for grinder to be forced to watch him.

Hey now. Eller won a cup.
- Victoro311

Eller used to be an awesome 3C, he's just... not anymore

This is true, but I also love the NBA model that allows teams to rebuild on the fly and bring in big names every few years in free agency. The NHL is stale in that regard. It's special big guys like Sid and Geno spend their career with one team, but also it leaves so many teams in complete mediocrity for a decade.
- burgh4life87

The problem is one player in free agency or trade doesnt have the impact in the NHL compared to the NBA. That's why NBA players have so much power. Teams are desperate not to lose them and will pay them whatever they need.

I follow the Toronto Raptors and we lost our starting point guard in free agency because Houston had a lot of cap space and needed talent. So they gave him a laughable contract. He's not even a "superstar" and that's how desperate a team was to get him. I think hockey players are much less inclined to move teams and cities.

The problem is one player in free agency or trade doesnt have the impact in the NHL compared to the NBA. That's why NBA players have so much power. Teams are desperate not to lose them and will pay them whatever they need.

I follow the Toronto Raptors and we lost our starting point guard in free agency because Houston had a lot of cap space and needed talent. So they gave him a laughable contract. He's not even a "superstar" and that's how desperate a team was to get him. I think hockey players are much less inclined to move teams and cities.
- SuperHenderson13

But basketball also has fewer positions and some teams can play 8-9 players for the entire game, not to mention those “superstars” play for 3/4ths of the entire game. Not to mention NBA has the soft cap and a luxury tax.

But basketball also has fewer positions and some teams can play 8-9 players for the entire game, not to mention those “superstars” play for 3/4ths of the entire game. Not to mention NBA has the soft cap and a luxury tax.
- drummer829

Basketball also sucks.

I like DOC, but if we are in the offseason saying that DOC is a surefire 3rd liner for us we are screwed. He's the guy you want to have on the 4th line who can step up into the 3rd line if there are injuries. But then again it all depends on the mix.

I think the H-B-K line was the perfect 3rd line.

H - Fast pressure forechecker who can be first in on the forecheck but also play solid d.
B - 2 way center who can distribute the puck and isn't a total suck on offence.
K - Pure scorer who can make something out of nothing on offence, even if their 200ft game is not strong.

DOC could fit the Hagelin role potentially, but if you don't have someone who can create offence on the 3rd line you don't have an HBK line.
- MacPatty

Well aware haha, I said as of this roster now DOC is one of our best third liners. We all know our bottom 6 on paper sucks right now. A lot of this can be fixed IF we get EK because our offense will get facilitated from the back end.

Eller used to be an awesome 3C, he's just... not anymore
- j.boyd919

That contract is killing me.