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Tojo.
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Aliquippa, PA
Joined: 11.11.2014

Jul 9 @ 5:09 PM ET
That makes sense. I'd love to see him prove that he is a top line center this year and closes in on at least 60 points at the AHL level.
- burgh4life87

Sounds like a reasonable target. There should be NHL opportunities though, but that depends on Sully and I fear he has all these vets now so he won't try any of the younger guys.
Grinder47
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somerset, PA
Joined: 10.20.2013

Jul 9 @ 5:14 PM ET
He lost an entire season in critical development years. That's rough. Puustinen has shown continued growth over the last 3 years which bodes well for him making a push at the NHL roster this year. DOC is the most likely to stick in the NHL, but I also think he has the lowest ceiling.
- burgh4life87

DOC is just constantly disappointing. He looks like he could be an animal but never wants to set himself apart in anyway. Plays with a lot of fear of failure. Mike Sullivan has a lot to do with that I’m sure.
madmike71
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 12.21.2006

Jul 9 @ 5:33 PM ET
Sounds like a reasonable target. There should be NHL opportunities though, but that depends on Sully and I fear he has all these vets now so he won't try any of the younger guys.
- Tojo.


Yep... He'll need to be noticeably better than those vets to get in front of them. I've always had the impression that prospects from previous regimes get less rope with a new GM. He'll need to impress Dubas even more than Sully.

One thing I noticed in the preseason last year was he looked like he could play at NHL pace. Not just skating, but decision making. Didn't see much on the offensive side of the puck. Obviously a really small sample size, but he looked like he could be a legit 4th liner already. I'm skeptical whether he'll ever get a real chance with the Pens.


10inchTerror
Joined: 10.13.2019

Jul 9 @ 5:37 PM ET
So when is this trade going down with Granlund and Petry + for EK. I am waiting for us to get the extra cap space so we can finally grab Tatar lol
- 123Kid


Not going to happen but it entertained us for a whole week in July.

But that’s alright because we need to clear 15m in cap space for next year for doobs to bring home papi, and ek would just take up that space.
668710
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: "Give him a chance" -Barnaby36, PA
Joined: 06.25.2011

Jul 9 @ 5:47 PM ET
Not going to happen but it entertained us for a whole week in July.

But that’s alright because we need to clear 15m in cap space for next year for doobs to bring home papi, and ek would just take up that space.

- 10inchTerror

Bring home Papi? And yea I wanted EK but doesn't seem like it's gonna happen. Dubas definitely tried though. I'd still like to move Granlund for someone useful.
10inchTerror
Joined: 10.13.2019

Jul 9 @ 6:35 PM ET
Bring home Papi? And yea I wanted EK but doesn't seem like it's gonna happen. Dubas definitely tried though. I'd still like to move Granlund for someone useful.
- 668710


Matthews
668710
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: "Give him a chance" -Barnaby36, PA
Joined: 06.25.2011

Jul 9 @ 6:37 PM ET
Matthews
- 10inchTerror

Haha yes please
Brownsoldier
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Altoona
Joined: 06.30.2015

Jul 9 @ 7:35 PM ET
Debrincat to DET.
burgh4life87
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 04.22.2014

Jul 9 @ 8:06 PM ET
Debrincat to DET.
- Brownsoldier

Strange extension only 4 years. But got him under 8mill so that's a plus.
kfinl170
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: NJ
Joined: 07.05.2010

Jul 9 @ 8:09 PM ET
Strange extension only 4 years. But got him under 8mill so that's a plus.
- burgh4life87


Steve Y is allergic to term
YouMeAndDupuis9
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 06.09.2014

Jul 9 @ 8:11 PM ET
Strange extension only 4 years. But got him under 8mill so that's a plus.
- burgh4life87


So would we have rather given up what DET gave up to get Debrincat under $8m.... or lose even more assets and cap space for EK?

Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Jul 9 @ 8:13 PM ET
Strange extension only 4 years. But got him under 8mill so that's a plus.
- burgh4life87

Did it to keep the money down
burgh4life87
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 04.22.2014

Jul 9 @ 8:22 PM ET
Did it to keep the money down
- Feds91Stammer

Very different. Hoping more teams are willing to do this. Sick of everyone getting Long ass deals that can't get traded. Didn't spend a lot to acquire either.
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Jul 9 @ 8:26 PM ET
Very different. Hoping more teams are willing to do this. Sick of everyone getting Long ass deals that can't get traded. Didn't spend a lot to acquire either.
- burgh4life87

Pretty massive win and was much needed for me to have some faith. Was a pretty underwhelming draft and free agency.
burgh4life87
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 04.22.2014

Jul 9 @ 8:27 PM ET
Pretty massive win and was much needed for me to have some faith. Was a pretty underwhelming draft and free agency.
- Feds91Stammer

And with the Bertuzzi trade earlier this year I'm sure getting another true top wing feels great.
Brownsoldier
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Altoona
Joined: 06.30.2015

Jul 9 @ 8:29 PM ET
Pretty massive win and was much needed for me to have some faith. Was a pretty underwhelming draft and free agency.
- Feds91Stammer

It was a fantastic deal for the wings. Term, AAV, cost to acquire.
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Jul 9 @ 8:32 PM ET
And with the Bertuzzi trade earlier this year I'm sure getting another true top wing feels great.
- burgh4life87

Nice to have a couple true snipers in Sprong and DeBrincat. Will be interesting to see how the lines shake out.
burgh4life87
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 04.22.2014

Jul 9 @ 9:08 PM ET
Nice to have a couple true snipers in Sprong and DeBrincat. Will be interesting to see how the lines shake out.
- Feds91Stammer

You could really use a player like Granlund to set up all those snipers
drummer829
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 07.12.2010

Jul 9 @ 9:12 PM ET
It was a fantastic deal for the wings. Term, AAV, cost to acquire.
- Brownsoldier


Geez…Does Karlsson deserve a bigger haul than that?
668710
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: "Give him a chance" -Barnaby36, PA
Joined: 06.25.2011

Jul 9 @ 9:42 PM ET
You could really use a player like Granlund to set up all those snipers
- burgh4life87

Hahahahaha
Brownsoldier
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Altoona
Joined: 06.30.2015

Jul 9 @ 10:02 PM ET
Geez…Does Karlsson deserve a bigger haul than that?
- drummer829

The haul wasn’t that big. But, Since cap dumps are involved, it will be hard to compare them side by side.
SuperHenderson13
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 10.13.2008

Jul 9 @ 10:45 PM ET
Very different. Hoping more teams are willing to do this. Sick of everyone getting Long ass deals that can't get traded. Didn't spend a lot to acquire either.
- burgh4life87

With the cap going up after next season, any young player would be stupid to sign a long term deal this offseason. Sign a good 3-4 year deal, let the market settle after the huge increase, and then benefit from it.
burgh4life87
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 04.22.2014

Jul 9 @ 11:03 PM ET
With the cap going up after next season, any young player would be stupid to sign a long term deal this offseason. Sign a good 3-4 year deal, let the market settle after the huge increase, and then benefit from it.
- SuperHenderson13

This is true, but I also love the NBA model that allows teams to rebuild on the fly and bring in big names every few years in free agency. The NHL is stale in that regard. It's special big guys like Sid and Geno spend their career with one team, but also it leaves so many teams in complete mediocrity for a decade.
Brownsoldier
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Altoona
Joined: 06.30.2015

Jul 9 @ 11:09 PM ET
With the cap going up after next season, any young player would be stupid to sign a long term deal this offseason. Sign a good 3-4 year deal, let the market settle after the huge increase, and then benefit from it.
- SuperHenderson13


I think this will make the graves signing even better. I think he was one of the best FA available.
Brownsoldier
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Altoona
Joined: 06.30.2015

Jul 9 @ 11:13 PM ET
I forget who mentioned it here but, they made a good point. Our goalies will have a decent year mostly because we will be more defensively responsible.
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