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MattStrat
Pittsburgh Penguins
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Jun 30 @ 7:33 AM ET
Most of us would have tried some rock star pose.
Most of us are also idiots, so, yeah

- Buckethead


hahaha Buckethead! Huge fan. Unreal player....and for sure, I'm definitely an idiot 100% hahah
wsldck
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 09.03.2020

Jun 30 @ 7:40 AM ET
From yohe on Twitter-
Interesting stuff from Nick Pryor talking about what Kyle Dubas has told scouts. He has told them, in regards to the draft, that he wants them “swinging for home runs on players with high offensive upside.”


I know next to nothing about the players being drafted, but according to internet draft people, seems like the guy we took was the complete opposite of that.
MattStrat
Pittsburgh Penguins
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Jun 30 @ 7:52 AM ET
“We’re trying to improve every single thing about the group,” Dubas said. “The acquisition of Reilly, it was more how would he fit with our players that currently are already on the roster. (Many) things were considered. But I don’t want to get too deeply into them because that could kind of tip our hand for other stuff.”

Doobie rocks. He doesnt mind gunslinging but he has a vision and plan hahah not just throwing sh!t at walls hoping it will stick nor is he running his mouth like JR would.
MattStrat
Pittsburgh Penguins
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Jun 30 @ 8:03 AM ET
From yohe on Twitter-
Interesting stuff from Nick Pryor talking about what Kyle Dubas has told scouts. He has told them, in regards to the draft, that he wants them “swinging for home runs on players with high offensive upside.”


I know next to nothing about the players being drafted, but according to internet draft people, seems like the guy we took was the complete opposite of that.

- wsldck


Apparently one of his biggest assets is his shot. I think the knock on him, and why he slipped a bit in ranking, was that his goal scoring didn't keep upping as projected last season. Pretty sure he said he was trying to focus a lot more on his two way play, which by all accounts seems to be very good already. Anyone you pick outside the top 5 or 10, hell maybe even top 3, are going to be projects, usually. Of course there will be home runs in later picks but usually you wont know it for at least a few years.

I think him being rookie of the year in CHL is a good sign. I think him really being concerned about his 2 way play at young age is a good sign. May never ever be a NHL regular though...like the majority of NHL draft picks before him.
j.boyd919
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Tampa, FL
Joined: 06.14.2011

Jun 30 @ 8:07 AM ET
“We’re trying to improve every single thing about the group,” Dubas said. “The acquisition of Reilly, it was more how would he fit with our players that currently are already on the roster. (Many) things were considered. But I don’t want to get too deeply into them because that could kind of tip our hand for other stuff.”

Doobie rocks. He doesnt mind gunslinging but he has a vision and plan hahah not just throwing sh!t at walls hoping it will stick nor is he running his mouth like JR would.

- MattStrat


Reilly Smith’s best asset is his threat off the rush which you know Sully is big on the transition game. His production is definitely similar to Zucker but I’m not sure his game is that similar. I think Zucker is much more of a puck retrieval, forechecking hound and I think Smith will be dangerous with someone like Geno who likes to open lanes up when he enters the zone to look for scoring opportunities.
j.boyd919
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Tampa, FL
Joined: 06.14.2011

Jun 30 @ 8:09 AM ET
From yohe on Twitter-
Interesting stuff from Nick Pryor talking about what Kyle Dubas has told scouts. He has told them, in regards to the draft, that he wants them “swinging for home runs on players with high offensive upside.”


I know next to nothing about the players being drafted, but according to internet draft people, seems like the guy we took was the complete opposite of that.

- wsldck


I thought the same thing when I read that quote. It was really weird. It seemed like post picks were reaches and it didn’t seem like any of them had home run thoughts. While Yager is considered to have the 3rd best shot in the draft by most I think that’s probably what led them to pick him but I was surprised they didn’t take Perrault.
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Jun 30 @ 8:10 AM ET
Apparently one of his biggest assets is his shot. I think the knock on him, and why he slipped a bit in ranking, was that his goal scoring didn't keep upping as projected last season. Pretty sure he said he was trying to focus a lot more on his two way play, which by all accounts seems to be very good already. Anyone you pick outside the top 5 or 10, hell maybe even top 3, are going to be projects, usually. Of course there will be home runs in later picks but usually you wont know it for at least a few years.

I think him being rookie of the year in CHL is a good sign. I think him really being concerned about his 2 way play at young age is a good sign. May never ever be a NHL regular though...like the majority of NHL draft picks before him.

- MattStrat

There’s always so many ways to look at things.

Detroit seemingly reached at 9 for a safer lower ceiling pick.

But the optimists say he was a playmaker on a bad team so that hurt his point production.

668710
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: "Give him a chance" -Barnaby36, PA
Joined: 06.25.2011

Jun 30 @ 8:13 AM ET
The funny thing is that if his argument was more based on the fact that just because they score a lot, doesnt mean they are the "most valuable" player, I would've fought on that hill with him because I agree 100%, but then he puts Pasta on his ballot which is laughable. Add that to some of the other ridiculous votes he's made in the past... guessing he just wants his name out there.
- SuperHenderson13

I wouldn't call Pasta being in the top 5 list laughable
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
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Jun 30 @ 8:14 AM ET
I wouldn't call Pasta being in the top 5 list laughable
- 668710

He means in regards to his argument against McDavid
MattStrat
Pittsburgh Penguins
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Jun 30 @ 8:19 AM ET
There’s always so many ways to look at things.

Detroit seemingly reached at 9 for a safer lower ceiling pick.

But the optimists say he was a playmaker on a bad team so that hurt his point production.

- Feds91Stammer


Absolutely.
MattStrat
Pittsburgh Penguins
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Jun 30 @ 8:21 AM ET
Reilly Smith’s best asset is his threat off the rush which you know Sully is big on the transition game. His production is definitely similar to Zucker but I’m not sure his game is that similar. I think Zucker is much more of a puck retrieval, forechecking hound and I think Smith will be dangerous with someone like Geno who likes to open lanes up when he enters the zone to look for scoring opportunities.
- j.boyd919



Zucker was f'n awesome on the forecheck and boards last season. I think he will be missed if he goes elsewhere. He would compliment a Geno-Reilly line very well IMO. He would do a lot of the digging and dirty work.
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
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Jun 30 @ 8:22 AM ET
Absolutely.
- MattStrat

Wings fans especially myself thought Seider was quite the reach at 6. Somehow they saw untapped offensive potential and now it looks like a genius pick.
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Jun 30 @ 8:23 AM ET
Zucker was f'n awesome on the forecheck and boards last season. I think he will be missed if he goes elsewhere. He would compliment a Geno-Reilly line very well IMO. He would do a lot of the digging and dirty work.
- MattStrat

LTIR Carter and sign Bert

Jake - Sid - Rakell
Bert - Geno - Nylander
Smith - Granlund - Rust
MattStrat
Pittsburgh Penguins
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Jun 30 @ 8:24 AM ET
Wings fans especially myself thought Seider was quite the reach at 6. Somehow they saw untapped offensive potential and now it looks like a genius pick.
- Feds91Stammer



hahaha it really does. I remember a lot shade thrown at the Wings for that pick when it happened.
MattStrat
Pittsburgh Penguins
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Jun 30 @ 8:27 AM ET
LTIR Carter and sign Bert

Jake - Sid - Rakell
Bert - Geno - Nylander
Smith - Granlund - Rust

- Feds91Stammer


I'm down with it. Carter is going to be on that 4th line though, I dont see a way out of it and I dont see him being a healthy scratch.
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
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Jun 30 @ 8:28 AM ET
hahaha it really does. I remember a lot shade thrown at the Wings for that pick when it happened.
- MattStrat

Most everyone liked Seider. Consensus was it was at least a handful of picks to early.
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
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Jun 30 @ 8:30 AM ET
I'm down with it. Carter is going to be on that 4th line though, I dont see a way out of it and I dont see him being a healthy scratch.
- MattStrat

LTIR his for old cripply ball disease

668710
Pittsburgh Penguins
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Joined: 06.25.2011

Jun 30 @ 8:32 AM ET
He means in regards to his argument against McDavid
- Feds91Stammer

Oh yea that was dumb, Mcdavid was the clear cut #1
668710
Pittsburgh Penguins
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Jun 30 @ 8:33 AM ET
LTIR Carter and sign Bert

Jake - Sid - Rakell
Bert - Geno - Nylander
Smith - Granlund - Rust

- Feds91Stammer

Wait how we getting Nylander?

Edit: nevermind you probably mean the poopty Nylander hahaha
MattStrat
Pittsburgh Penguins
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Jun 30 @ 8:34 AM ET
Wait how we getting Nylander?
- 668710


We already have him
MattStrat
Pittsburgh Penguins
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Jun 30 @ 8:34 AM ET
Most everyone liked Seider. Consensus was it was at least a handful of picks to early.
- Feds91Stammer


Oh I know and it was just the typical f'n knee jerk/haters takes hahaha
668710
Pittsburgh Penguins
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Jun 30 @ 8:34 AM ET
We already have him

- MattStrat

Yea yea yea. I haven't had my full cup of coffee yet, people keep distracting me haha
668710
Pittsburgh Penguins
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Jun 30 @ 8:36 AM ET
It would be really nice if Philly took Carter for his last season and he can retire then lol
MattStrat
Pittsburgh Penguins
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Jun 30 @ 8:37 AM ET
Yea yea yea. I haven't had my full cup of coffee yet, people keep distracting me haha
- 668710


I already have a McDees XL in me hahaha
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Jun 30 @ 8:39 AM ET
I already have a McDees XL in me hahaha

- MattStrat

McDeez Nutz
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