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hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Jun 28 @ 11:37 AM ET
Yes, I didn't like the Hayes signing and certainly didn't like the DeAngelo signing because I felt the Flyers needed to rebuild last off-season. Recall I hated the Risto resigning and thought he should have been moved at the deadline. What I am saying here is there must have been other things that have happened behind the scenes that has prompted Briere to move DeAngelo now versus next trade deadline when it would make the most sense.
- jd250

cant be the coach just wants him gone can it?
jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Jun 28 @ 11:38 AM ET
Where are we?
- SuperSchennBros

The Flyers have about $10M in cap space, but need to resign 3 or 4 restricted free agents.
jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Jun 28 @ 11:40 AM ET
cant be the coach just wants him gone can it?
- hello it's me 2050

It could be, but I think there is more to it that has not come out.
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Jun 28 @ 11:40 AM ET
I think Provey is what he is. I think he was overrated by Hextall and his staff. In hindsight Werenski would have been the better pick. But Provey is a good NHL defenseman, just not a top pairing defenseman which is what was hoped for. Yes in hindsight he should have spent at least a season in the minors and not rushed to the NHL, but consider who rushed him, Hextall, and also consider that Hextall typically does not rush players the to the NHL, but instead does the complete opposite.
- jd250

I think Provorov has an opportunity to return to form. He’ll absolutely have a steady partner in Columbus and if the Jackets remain healthy and play this draft smart, they can only surpass the Flyers. If Provorov doesn’t play with the right attitude, that’s on him.
Laceemup88
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 11.26.2018

Jun 28 @ 11:40 AM ET
Boy I hope this day ends better than the last 24 hrs. Trying to stay positive.
mikeyo27
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: NJ
Joined: 01.18.2014

Jun 28 @ 11:41 AM ET
The Flyers have about $10M in cap space, but need to resign 3 or 4 restricted free agents.
- jd250


Don’t forget the cap relief for Ellis LTIR. Another wonderful gift from Fletcher.
Flyerloon
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Phoenix, AZ
Joined: 12.06.2021

Jun 28 @ 11:42 AM ET
Anyone else on here think we will see a 3rd d pairing of Andrae/Grans. Once i learned they have played together it seems like we should give them a look against good lines in the pre season and see how they react.


Top 4 is going to be an adventure.

York hopefully keeps developing into the player we hope(top 2 dman)but having risto and walker on the right side makes things tough. Not sure who the 4th will be but torts likes seeler if Sanheim gets traded. lol

I think Walker gets moved at the TDL for a 3rd or 4th rd pick.

Question is are guy like Attard, Zamula, Ginning going to make the team or are they just AHL players?
mikeyo27
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: NJ
Joined: 01.18.2014

Jun 28 @ 11:43 AM ET
Boy I hope this day ends better than the last 24 hrs. Trying to stay positive.
- Laceemup88


It’s been disappointingly quiet. From the optimism of landing another first and ridding of Sanheims contract, to the word of getting a 1st and 2nd for Laughton, the the sky high expectations of trading TK for a kings ransom… to right now silence. But, that might be a good thing. I think we’re all waiting for the fun to begin.
Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

Jun 28 @ 11:48 AM ET
I hate the Devils...

If their goaltending holds up that's a scary looking team now and future.
mikeyo27
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: NJ
Joined: 01.18.2014

Jun 28 @ 11:48 AM ET
Does anyone know of the Flyers actually met with Michkov?
Hosher12
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 02.15.2020

Jun 28 @ 11:49 AM ET
Carchidi on NHL sirius right now.

"Is it as simple as Torts gave the Flyers a list of players to get rid of and that is it?"

SC- Torts would say that is a media creation but the evidence suggests otherwise....

- MBFlyerfan



I would think all the games Torts and Briere watched from the press box at the end of the season that’s what they discussed. I would assume that during the game Tots would point out the reasons why the player wasn’t playing how their system was taught.
At least I would hope that’s how it was so that the GM and coach could agree on who should stay and who should go. Plans only work if the key people on the team buy in to the plan.

wcorvette
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Boynton Beach, FL
Joined: 10.03.2010

Jun 28 @ 11:50 AM ET
The Flyers have about $10M in cap space, but need to resign 3 or 4 restricted free agents.
- jd250


is that with Ellis LTIR
consigrn
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CT
Joined: 04.11.2009

Jun 28 @ 11:50 AM ET
In what way here as a Flyer, was Angelo undisciplined off the ice? We were all lamenting that these trades were bad for the Flyers? Including you? LOL
- MJL

Why the F... do call him Angelo? His name is DeAngelo, what you do is just disrespectful
Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

Jun 28 @ 11:51 AM ET
Does anyone know of the Flyers actually met with Michkov?
- mikeyo27



Yes, they did.
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Jun 28 @ 11:52 AM ET
In Provy's case the talent was there but the team just threw an 18-yo into the deep end without a floaty.
- Tomahawk


He didn't start in the NHL till he was 19 and his best seasons were at 20 and 22.
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Jun 28 @ 11:52 AM ET
Why the F... do call him Angelo? His name is DeAngelo, what you do is just disrespectful
- consigrn


Cause he don't play D.
Hosher12
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 02.15.2020

Jun 28 @ 11:53 AM ET
Boy I hope this day ends better than the last 24 hrs. Trying to stay positive.
- Laceemup88


Loved the Provy traded disappointed with Hayes trade ( at least no draft picks given away) I need 1 more good trade before the draft to feel good again.
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Jun 28 @ 11:53 AM ET
Why the F... do call him Angelo? His name is DeAngelo, what you do is just disrespectful
- consigrn

Common, it’s funny.
Hosher12
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 02.15.2020

Jun 28 @ 11:54 AM ET
Cause he don't play D.
- Feanor



That is very funny!!
Bayareaflyer
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 10.10.2008

Jun 28 @ 11:55 AM ET
Preds need to make a splash tonight - what else is needed from them to make this work?

Flyers - 7OA

Preds - 15OA + 24OA + (Cal Foote + 3rd)????

Still some good players to be had at 15, 22, 24
Hosher12
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 02.15.2020

Jun 28 @ 11:56 AM ET
Common, it’s funny.
- SuperSchennBros


I wonder if Torts started that😂
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Jun 28 @ 11:56 AM ET
Does anyone know of the Flyers actually met with Michkov?
- mikeyo27

This

Also points and flash aside, does anyone know who are the most dynamic, harder working players in the top ten, who have been a big part of a successful team at their level? Serious question.
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Jun 28 @ 11:58 AM ET
Does anyone know of the Flyers actually met with Michkov?
- mikeyo27


According to ASF they did meet with him and his family. The way he talks is that Michkov is Briere's #1 guy and he has been looking for ways to move up to make sure gets him.
black_francis
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bumfuck, NJ
Joined: 01.10.2015

Jun 28 @ 11:58 AM ET
cant be the coach just wants him gone can it?
- hello it's me 2050


i don't think you get benched for the last 5 games of the season for nothing
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jun 28 @ 11:58 AM ET
Yes, I didn't like the Hayes signing and certainly didn't like the DeAngelo signing because I felt the Flyers needed to rebuild last off-season. Recall I hated the Risto resigning and thought he should have been moved at the deadline. What I am saying here is there must have been other things that have happened behind the scenes that has prompted Briere to move DeAngelo now versus next trade deadline when it would make the most sense.
- jd250


These posts trying to foolishly argue that DeAngelo wasn't a bad defender sure doesn't show that you didn't like the move to acquire DeAngelo. This is you rubber stamping another Fletcher move. There's plenty more.

https://www.hockeybuzz.co...?thread_id=179619&page=15

"Can we please just put away these stupid statements about DeAngelo's racial slurs!! It happened several years ago, he was young, he got angry, he made a mistake. Who here has not said something stupid when you were angry? Just get off your collective high horses and move on; let's judge DeAngelo by who he is right now and how he players. And from what I can see, he is a darn good offensive defenseman that is cleaning up his game defensively and is in the prime of his career!"

"Hmm .. and how do you explain that Slavin was DeAngelo's partner when the Canes gave up those scoring chances? And yet the Canes were the best defensive team in the league with DeAngelo playing more than 20 minutes a game ... interesting."

https://www.hockeybuzz.co...?thread_id=179619&page=17

"goaltending has nothing to do with scoring chances against! I have long tried to explain this to you that this metric in and of itself is pretty useless. The only metrics that matter to me is DeAngelo has had two season with over 50 points and he is only 26 years old, and last season he was a+30! You can't have it both ways. You can't praise Slavin with his +35 and say he is great defensively, but then claim DeAngelo with his +30 was a product of good galtending."

https://www.hockeybuzz.co...?thread_id=179619&page=21

"huh, but scoring changes against is not misleading?? No one thinks DeAngelo is a defensive stall worth, but still being a +30 is nothing to sneeze at either. DeAngelo is an offensive defenseman that can move the puck and QB the power play; that is what he is. He is also working on becoming a better defensive player. I don't understand why so many people get so entrenched in advanced metrics. The bottom line is Carolina proved last year that you can have the best defensive team in the league and also have an offensive defenseman at the same time. So why is this a problem for the Flyers??"





















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