Laughton is currently the face of the franchise, as far as players go.
- Feanor

Id trade him for sure. Even if it means a draft pick today and something next year or a prospect. They can not afford to not maximize assets right now. Love the player and thank him for his service, but he is most valuable to the organization right now as a trade asset.

I’m still elated, 12 hours later. I can’t believe DB had the guts to pick him. His response that he wanted to win the Cup for his father was also great to hear.
- Sublime55

Definitely, Michkov was #2 overall on the board and the Flyers got him without winning either lottery draw. I have wanted a higher-drafted RHD since forever, and they drafted Bonk first round. All in the same night! It is very easy for me to assume Bonk was actually the next BPA on the Flyers list. Outside of Perreault, the next group were all similarly ranked. Maybe they were just not sold on Perreault’s upside as much as Bonk’s.

It’s not a rebuild if they don’t move those players. I feel if they don’t move them you either let them walk eventually or trade them when value is lower or resign them eventually. All are worse options then moving them now or soon to maximize the assets. This season should be the tank season. Michkov was a gift. Just load up next years draft and go from there.
- SMS4016

right. same with sanhiem IMO. but when i saw the proposal to St. Louis, wow. i thought someone would've given a little more for hayes at 50 percent retatined.

Yes I heard this and really, really want to believe this, but come on, if Arizona drafted him he wouldn't say the same thing?
- jd250

If he were American or Canadian I would just assume it's sugar-coating and media coaching.

But a Russian (with a smile on his face)? They don't say poop like that unless they really mean it.

Yes I heard this and really, really want to believe this, but come on, if Arizona drafted him he wouldn't say the same thing?
- jd250

No. He dodged Arizona before the draft.

Scott Wheeler has the Flyers as a 1st-round winner:

Philadelphia Flyers
Pick: 7. Matvei Michkov
My ranking: No. 2

Pick: 22. Oliver Bonk
My ranking: No. 41

The Flyers get bonus points for following my mock with both of their picks, but it’s the first one that makes them winners.

This is my 10th draft doing this, and there has never been a player more talented than Michkov drafted No. 7 in any of those drafts. He’s a special talent and a true game-breaker who has the potential to become the Flyers’ leading scorer of the future and one of the most productive players in the league. I’m almost certain he’s going to wow and tantalize when he comes over. Credit to Danny Briere for taking the swing.

I don’t mind Bonk at No. 22. He was the consensus next top defencemen in the scouting community after the top four guys, and he was always going to be a first-rounder. His calling card is that all of his tools get Bs or B-pluses. He’s not going to be a point-producing type or power-play guy at the next level, but he does everything well, could become a solid second-pairing guy and will very likely play in the NHL at minimum.

https://theathletic.com/4...rst-round-winners-losers/

Can’t wait for the Bonk to Brink goals
- hereticpride

All they need now is to acquire Debrincat...

Laughton is currently the face of the franchise, as far as players go.
- Feanor

I love Laughton as a player but honestly, the Flyers need the 2nd round pick more. The Flyers have plenty of other veteran leadership to draw from, they don't need Laughton for anything at this point. Chicago has 4 2nd round picks, Detroit has 3. Perhaps Chicago would like a Laughton to mentor Bedard and Moore? Boy is Chicago going to be stacked down the middle of the ice!

Dont link the Bonk pick as they picked need over BPA. That pick has "Jonesy" written all over it. Needed more high end talent imo.

Didn't think Danny would have the balls to take the Russian if he was available. Kudos to hin for making the correct call.
- hello it's me 2050

I was kinda thinking last night after it all settled this… my worst fear was taking reinfart at 7 as too high a spot for him. Isn’t bonk kinda poor man’s reinfart? So not bad at 22 really. Can live with it. If he continues to develop looking like a 3/4 dman. That’s about right for #22. I would’ve takin the Russian d there if going d but time will tell.

Yes I heard this and really, really want to believe this, but come on, if Arizona drafted him he wouldn't say the same thing? In the end, he is an impressive young man with high confidence and seems mature already. I especially liked it when he talked about his Dad, it made me tear up a bit, given I have two young ones of my own that are already nationally ranked in their sport. I really hope this works out, because as we already know, hitting on a top prospect leaps your franchise forward, while missing on a top prospect sets your franchise back for years.
- jd250

I'm gonna give him the benefit of the doubt and take him at his word. He agreed to meet secretly with the flyers and unless he's a really good actor, looked genuinely thrilled to be selected by the Flyers.

The recent history of what happened here only matters to us fans. From his perspective, when he gets here, he'll have all of the opportunity to change a franchise around in a city that cares about hockey. He wouldn't get that opportunity in many places.

He has the chance to be what Ovi was for Washington.

That's not correct in my opinion. He doesn't have to go before the season starts. The first round is over. You want them to tank and they're not going to. Don't put yourself in the position of forcing a trade. Someone wants Konecny, they have to meet the cost. Maximizing the asset for the highest return is what is paramount. Rather than a fixation on tanking. There's always a risk of injury but that risk should not force into rushing a trade.
- MJL

Pretty safe to say we kinda know what the market and value is of laughts tk yes there’s maximize the return but there’s also trying to be too greedy. That’s where the risk become greater. So yes you don’t just give players away but it’s kinda clear these players can be moved soon without taking risk on and get fair maximized returns. No need to get greedy here

Id trade him for sure. Even if it means a draft pick today and something next year or a prospect. They can not afford to not maximize assets right now. Love the player and thank him for his service, but he is most valuable to the organization right now as a trade asset.
- coffee junkie

I agree, they can't afford to not maximize assets. Which is why there is no rush to trade any of Konecny, Sanheim or Laughton. We've seen the results from all the trades the Flyers have made where they put themselves in a position of having to or wanting to make trades with urgency.

i will only believe this if he said it before he was drafted.
- Peter Richards

I was kinda thinking last night after it all settled this… my worst fear was taking reinfart at 7 as too high a spot for him. Isn’t bonk kinda poor man’s reinfart? So not bad at 22 really. Can live with it. If he continues to develop looking like a 3/4 dman. That’s about right for #22. I would’ve takin the Russian d there if going d but time will tell.
- SMS4016

just would have rathered taken the offensive player with the higher upside is all. Wonder if they looked into trading down? Based on Brieres comment I don't think they did.

Pretty safe to say we kinda know what the market and value is of laughts tk yes there’s maximize the return but there’s also trying to be too greedy. That’s where the risk become greater. So yes you don’t just give players away but it’s kinda clear these players can be moved soon without taking risk on and get fair maximized returns. No need to get greedy here
- SMS4016

The thing is, the Flyers do not want to trade TK or Laughton, so if a team wants them they are going to have to blow the Flyers away with an offer. And that is how it should be. We see what happens when a team is desperate to unload players, like Hayes and DeAngelo, you get nothing back except dead cap space. If I'm not getting at least a 2nd round pick in this draft for Laughton, I would rather keep him. And if I was not going to get a top 10 draft pick in this draft for TK, I certainly keep him. Sanheim is an interesting one. I would trade him right now for a 2nd or 3rd round pick, just to get out from under that contract, but teams are not willing to do that because not many have the cap space. I do wonder if Chicago might be willing. Afterall, they just traded for Hall at $6M per, yuck!

Pretty safe to say we kinda know what the market and value is of laughts tk yes there’s maximize the return but there’s also trying to be too greedy. That’s where the risk become greater. So yes you don’t just give players away but it’s kinda clear these players can be moved soon without taking risk on and get fair maximized returns. No need to get greedy here
- SMS4016

bottom to me is they really have no interest in trading those 2 players. Will gladly admit I was wrong if they do.

Laughton is currently the face of the franchise, as far as players go.
- Feanor

Cates is right behind him

I love Laughton as a player but honestly, the Flyers need the 2nd round pick more. The Flyers have plenty of other veteran leadership to draw from, they don't need Laughton for anything at this point. Chicago has 4 2nd round picks, Detroit has 3. Perhaps Chicago would like a Laughton to mentor Bedard and Moore? Boy is Chicago going to be stacked down the middle of the ice!
- jd250

I would need a little more than just a 2nd.

All they need now is to acquire Debrincat...
- Big_E_88

I was screaming for us to draft him

The thing is, the Flyers do not want to trade TK or Laughton, so if a team wants them they are going to have to blow the Flyers away with an offer. And that is how it should be. We see what happens when a team is desperate to unload players, like Hayes and DeAngelo, you get nothing back except dead cap space. If I'm not getting at least a 2nd round pick in this draft for Laughton, I would rather keep him. And if I was not going to get a top 10 draft pick in this draft for TK, I certainly keep him. Sanheim is an interesting one. I would trade him right now for a 2nd or 3rd round pick, just to get out from under that contract, but teams are not willing to do that because not many have the cap space. I do wonder if Chicago might be willing. Afterall, they just traded for Hall at $6M per, yuck!
- jd250

If the Flyers were willing to and advertised that they would move Sanheim for a 2nd or a 3rd. He would've already been traded. Luckily, not even the Flyers are that stupid.
Chicago is going to use Hall short term as support for Bedard and then they will eventually flip him for a future asset. Hall is still a pretty good player.

Laughton is currently the face of the franchise, as far as players go.
- Feanor

I’d argue Hart. But either way being the face of a turbulent franchise probably ain’t the safest spot to be in.

I agree, they can't afford to not maximize assets. Which is why there is no rush to trade any of Konecny, Sanheim or Laughton. We've seen the results from all the trades the Flyers have made where they put themselves in a position of having to or wanting to make trades with urgency.
- MJL

Doesn't TS have an NMC that kicks in on 7/1 making it nearly impossible to trade him?

Pretty safe to say we kinda know what the market and value is of laughts tk yes there’s maximize the return but there’s also trying to be too greedy. That’s where the risk become greater. So yes you don’t just give players away but it’s kinda clear these players can be moved soon without taking risk on and get fair maximized returns. No need to get greedy here
- SMS4016

I'm sure they're considering this and fitting it into their plan. Teams just didn't want to part with picks this year, it seemed.

To me there's no rush to move TK or Laughts. TK, especially, is someone you need to make sure you get good value in return. Both may be more valuable at the deadline.

If there's a deal for Sanheim that makes sense you can do before 7/1 then do it. Maybe Calgary wants someone who is from there and is locked up long term.

If Atkinson can prove he's healthy, maybe he's another guy who has a little value at the deadline.

If they can be under the cap without having to use LTIR for Ellis then they'll be in a good position at the deadline to use that banked cap space to take contracts for assets.

Doesn't TS have an NMC that kicks in on 7/1 making it nearly impossible to trade him?
- Letterkenney

It's a NTC. Full for years 1-4 and 12 team for the rest. I don't think it makes him nearly impossible to trade. Player just want to have control. At his age, if a situation presents itself, where a legit contender wants him, why wouldn't he agree?

I would need a little more than just a 2nd.
- MJL

what more would you need? Its either a 2nd in this draft or a 1st in 2024, right?