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MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jun 26 @ 9:53 AM ET
Hard to be aggressive when you lack those things.
- ClaudeFather


When used properly, Frost has had zero issue being aggressive.
Big_E_88
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Wilmington, DE
Joined: 01.17.2014

Jun 26 @ 9:56 AM ET
Seems to me DB had trade options for Hayes, Deangelo, Sanheim, Laughton and TK. He will take it right down to the wire to get the best deal which is what a good GM does. I expect the Flyers to get two additional 1st round picks in this draft while covering salary for up to 3 players. Can’t wait to see how this all works out.
- jd250


Yup. Just like Chuckie did with JVR at the TDL.
bradster
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.18.2009

Jun 26 @ 10:05 AM ET
Seems to me DB had trade options for Hayes, Deangelo, Sanheim, Laughton and TK. He will take it right down to the wire to get the best deal which is what a good GM does. I expect the Flyers to get two additional 1st round picks in this draft while covering salary for up to 3 players. Can’t wait to see how this all works out.
- jd250


Knowing the market is what works. Taking it right down to the wire isnt always the best way. If he took provy down to the wire then columbus says, we will go for hanifin as he is cheaper, then it leaves us stuck. know the market is the #1 rule
atibus
Joined: 06.23.2011

Jun 26 @ 10:11 AM ET
Anyone know:

Do teams notify players who are going to be traded before the league approves the trade or after league approval? I know it's probably team specific; just wondering if anyone knew what best practice was...
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jun 26 @ 10:12 AM ET
Chuck Fletcher was truly incompetent. What was once regarded as hyperbole by some on this board has turned into truth.
- StepfordSam


By many, not all, of the same group today
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Jun 26 @ 10:15 AM ET
Sometimes you need to actually bring something to the table besides empty rhetoric. Tortorella had to be talked to and convinced to play him more. Tortorella held him back.
- MJL

That has nothing to do with his aggressiveness Cliff? 2 separate issues.

How was the weekend?
mickel25
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Morgantown, PA
Joined: 01.21.2011

Jun 26 @ 10:15 AM ET
Anyone know:

Do teams notify players who are going to be traded before the league approves the trade or after league approval? I know it's probably team specific; just wondering if anyone knew what best practice was...

- atibus


If I was a GM I would make it a priority to notify the players myself. I think that is bare minimum in terms of professional courtesy. I do not think a team is required to notify a player though. It is handled differently from team to team.
wcorvette
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Boynton Beach, FL
Joined: 10.03.2010

Jun 26 @ 10:35 AM ET
Frost-

All players mature at different times. Frost himself said that JR was to easy for him and developed bad habits, it took time for him to adjsut to the AHL and then the NHL. Is that moving your feet, eh, kind of. Frost is not different than most young players, learning to play at the pace of the AHL/NHL with grown men. Yes, you can say Frost was held back by linemates but I think most all young players go through some sort of similar challenge. I did not like it for Frost and think it is old school, to much. Does Torts get some credit, for sure, could he had done better, for sure.
Trox88
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.12.2020

Jun 26 @ 10:38 AM ET
So Sanheim and Provy out in the sane offseason potentially, fascinating. I guess it is still possible Sanheim returns, talk about awkwatd.
Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ersson-Ville, NB, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Jun 26 @ 10:43 AM ET
So Sanheim and Provy out in the sane offseason potentially, fascinating. I guess it is still possible Sanheim returns, talk about awkwatd.
- Trox88


Well, if they are indeed able to get 3 1st in this strong draft that’s great. Really need to hit on the picks though.
ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Jun 26 @ 10:44 AM ET
So Sanheim and Provy out in the sane offseason potentially, fascinating. I guess it is still possible Sanheim returns, talk about awkwatd.
- Trox88

I think briere made it very clear when he said everyone is available what the off season would be like. This is the business side of it, comes with the job
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Jun 26 @ 11:21 AM ET
So Sanheim and Provy out in the sane offseason potentially, fascinating. I guess it is still possible Sanheim returns, talk about awkwatd.
- Trox88

Remember this future cup caliber d core:

ivan - ghost
sanheim - myers
morin - haag

3 likely out of the league. Where has the time gone.

Not awkward when he sees his direct deposit hit every week
Quetzalcoatl
Location: Buffalo Sabres / Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 12.02.2009

Jun 26 @ 11:22 AM ET
https://nhlrumors.com/nhl...n-and-fallout/2023/06/26/
Trox88
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.12.2020

Jun 26 @ 11:26 AM ET
Well, if they are indeed able to get 3 1st in this strong draft that’s great. Really need to hit on the picks though.
- Hextall271


I fully expect a RHD to be drafted some time in the 1st rd. My guess is Reinbacher or Willander.
Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ersson-Ville, NB, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Jun 26 @ 11:32 AM ET
I fully expect a RHD to be drafted some time in the 1st rd. My guess is Reinbacher or Willander.
- Trox88


I’d be fine with that. They will need to draft a dman if they send out sanheim which looks like it’ll happen. This formula on d hasn’t worked so I have no issue with them turning it all over. They are likely high on York but they need to find a way to get rid of risto as well.
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Jun 26 @ 11:38 AM ET
Looks like the deal is reunsnagged. Life of a flyer fan
wcorvette
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Boynton Beach, FL
Joined: 10.03.2010

Jun 26 @ 11:39 AM ET
Looks like the deal is reunsnagged. Life of a flyer fan
- Just5



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Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Jun 26 @ 11:40 AM ET
I have no problem if the NHL wants to levy penalties on the flyers due to fletcher’s ineptness. I’m with the league
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Jun 26 @ 11:45 AM ET
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- wcorvette


Sources close to the #stlblues / #FueledByPhilly trade say that Krug will be waiving the NTC today.

Buckle up.
ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Jun 26 @ 11:48 AM ET
Sources close to the #stlblues / #FueledByPhilly trade say that Krug will be waiving the NTC today.

Buckle up.

- Just5

This is gonna really set this place on fire, hopefully goes down
THE EVIL WITHIN
Location: NJ
Joined: 11.20.2017

Jun 26 @ 11:49 AM ET
Well, if they are indeed able to get 3 1st in this strong draft that’s great. Really need to hit on the picks though.
- Hextall271

Yea, no more drafting up. And give the player away for future considerations.
wcorvette
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Boynton Beach, FL
Joined: 10.03.2010

Jun 26 @ 11:50 AM ET
Sources close to the #stlblues / #FueledByPhilly trade say that Krug will be waiving the NTC today.

Buckle up.

- Just5


TU
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Jun 26 @ 11:52 AM ET
no news? shame
rayc16
Joined: 06.29.2006

Jun 26 @ 11:52 AM ET
Sources close to the #stlblues / #FueledByPhilly trade say that Krug will be waiving the NTC today.

Buckle up.

- Just5

This is fun
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Jun 26 @ 11:53 AM ET
what if Chuckie was just a lame duck GM and other GMs didn't want to kick him when he was down cause they knew he was gone
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