MJL
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Location: Candyland, PA Joined: 09.20.2007
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Suppisedly the cap will start to rise significantly after next season. I fully expect Krug later in his contract to morph into a Streit role. Veteran Dman on 3rd pair to run the PP. Flyers retain salary when he gets moved. I very much doubt the Flyers will be Krug's last team he plays for on his current contract. - Trox88
So the Flyers take in the full 6.5M and then deal him what in two years with salary retained? Seems like a great idea.
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Yes they are but why get one who seems to be in decline and has 3 more years at 6.5M. Sanheim is a pretty good player. There should be zero rush to move him. - MJL
no there should be urgency as his NTC kicks in soon. Doesn't mean you dump him for nothing.
also tells me Danny wasn't as on board with the sanheim contract if he is looking to move him. |
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StepfordSam
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Location: Philadelphia, PA Joined: 02.06.2017
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Yes they are but why get one who seems to be in decline and has 3 more years at 6.5M. Sanheim is a pretty good player. There should be zero rush to move him. - MJL
Agreed. I asked this yesterday. Why the rush to trade Sanheim? The length of the contract is the only real issue and it’s not a big concern at the moment.
I’m not against moving Sanheim, but let the deal come to you, not the other way around. It should be a TK situation. Wait for a really strong offer. |
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mikeyo27
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Location: NJ Joined: 01.18.2014
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a GM cant make that promise. - hello it's me 2050
He can’t promise to try to move him? |
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He can’t promise to try to move him? - mikeyo27
wasn't what you said.
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Quetzalcoatl
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Location: Buffalo Sabres / Chicago Blackhawks Joined: 12.02.2009
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Thought this was an interesting read given some of the conversations about Torts. Seems to me we've rightly evolved away from many old school "tough love" methods, but perhaps are passing the ideal middle ground and heading towards too much of a "coddling" mentality.
https://getpocket.com/exp...?utm_source=pocket-newtab |
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MJL
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Location: Candyland, PA Joined: 09.20.2007
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Agreed. I asked this yesterday. Why the rush to trade Sanheim? The length of the contract is the only real issue and it’s not a big concern at the moment.
I’m not against moving Sanheim, but let the deal come to you, not the other way around. It should be a TK situation. Wait for a really strong offer. - StepfordSam
I'm not concerned about the NTC. I understand the opinion that it's not a great contract. I like the player but didn't like the contract. I didn't view him as a max term player that got a market price AAV and trade protection. What did the Flyers get in the deal? Regardless I agree, it's not a big concern right now in my opinion.
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WhiskeyMan
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Location: PA Joined: 04.27.2018
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Lindblom was a buyout. Not a retained salary transaction. - MJL
I believe it is 3 dead cap slots. Lindblom counts as one
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mikeyo27
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Location: NJ Joined: 01.18.2014
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wasn't what you said. - hello it's me 2050
Yes it is. Promise to try to move him to another team in the meantime. |
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Agreed. I asked this yesterday. Why the rush to trade Sanheim? The length of the contract is the only real issue and it’s not a big concern at the moment.
I’m not against moving Sanheim, but let the deal come to you, not the other way around. It should be a TK situation. Wait for a really strong offer. - StepfordSam
seems all the TK and Laughton trade talk has come to a halt.
The 3 guys in the rumors are 3 guys imo Torts wouldn't mind moving on from.
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Yes it is. Promise to try to move him to another team in the meantime. - mikeyo27
what you said:
"Perhaps Briere is promising Kruger to try to move him to a team of his choosing in the meantime. "
a team of his choosing may not want him |
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wcorvette
Season Ticket Holder Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Boynton Beach, FL Joined: 10.03.2010
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And as well if the cap takes a big jump…5.1 becomes a lot more doable. He’s still a decent player. Big, fairly mobile, physical. He may be a decent trade option and not a cap giveaway as some seem to think. - landros 2
agree, he made progress last season, perceived or otherwise, maintain and add a little more O and he becomes viable. His cap is 5.1, use a 3rd team to hold some cap to max out return. |
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MJL
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Location: Candyland, PA Joined: 09.20.2007
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I believe it is 3 dead cap slots. Lindblom counts as one - WhiskeyMan
That is not correct. A player bought out does not count towards the three salary retention slots
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mikeyo27
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Location: NJ Joined: 01.18.2014
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what you said:
"Perhaps Briere is promising Kruger to try to move him to a team of his choosing in the meantime. "
a team of his choosing may not want him - hello it's me 2050
Semantics. And “try” is not the same as “will”. |
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wcorvette
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Location: Boynton Beach, FL Joined: 10.03.2010
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Agreed. I asked this yesterday. Why the rush to trade Sanheim? The length of the contract is the only real issue and it’s not a big concern at the moment.
I’m not against moving Sanheim, but let the deal come to you, not the other way around. It should be a TK situation. Wait for a really strong offer. - StepfordSam
agree to this, Sanheim is a good get for a team, middle 4 D, money is doable, term is a long way away till it becomes a concern.
just my opinion, players mature and decline at different times. Sanheim who stuggles to hold weight was no surprise he took a while to mature. It seems to me, better skaters age better. I think Sanheim has the late bloomer and skating in his favor as he ages.
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wcorvette
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Location: Boynton Beach, FL Joined: 10.03.2010
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Playoff teams might have interest in a player like Ristolainen in a depth role for the playoffs if he was on an expiring contract. Why would a playoff level team have interest in a mediocre at best defenseman with 3 more years left on his deal? The chances are remote. Not the kind of player teams have interest in at the deadline with term left. A player would have to be a really good player to take that on. - MJL
I am not saying there will be a big market but if what I said in my inital post comes true then there could be a team who see's Risto as a benefit in a playoff run. The cap will come up next season more than this season, the Flyers could eat a 1 million, could use a 3rd team to eat cap, they could eat more to max out return
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StepfordSam
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Location: Philadelphia, PA Joined: 02.06.2017
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seems all the TK and Laughton trade talk has come to a halt.
The 3 guys in the rumors are 3 guys imo Torts wouldn't mind moving on from. - hello it's me 2050
I've noticed. Would be interesting if the only player movement this off-season was among those not in the coach's favor. |
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Trox88
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So the Flyers take in the full 6.5M and then deal him what in two years with salary retained? Seems like a great idea. - MJL
The new GM did not sign Sanheim to that extension. Where the Flyers are, did it make sense for Fletcher to sign Sanheim to that extension.? Sure Briere was in the organization at the time, but Fletcher was GM and Pres, he had all the authority. Krug had a lousy season no doubt, but he cannot rebound and be effective over the last 4 years of his contract? Maybe the league just does not view Sanheim in the same favor as Fletcher. If he was a truly coveted Dman locked into an 8 yr contract at a reasobable cap hit, the offers would be better then the STL offer, no? |
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Semantics. And “try” is not the same as “will”. - mikeyo27
bottom line is you cant make that promise or you look like a fool
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landros 2
Season Ticket Holder Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Centre of universe Joined: 02.07.2007
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would pay to hear that pitch. Approve the deal then have a job for life - hello it's me 2050
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I've noticed. Would be interesting if the only player movement this off-season was among those not in the coach's favor. - StepfordSam
the ones with all the value!!!!
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landros 2
Season Ticket Holder Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Centre of universe Joined: 02.07.2007
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no there should be urgency as his NTC kicks in soon. Doesn't mean you dump him for nothing.
also tells me Danny wasn't as on board with the sanheim contract if he is looking to move him. - hello it's me 2050
Too much term and too much $… for what you get. That contract has effected his trade value for sure. |
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mikeyo27
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Location: NJ Joined: 01.18.2014
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bottom line is you cant make that promise or you look like a fool - hello it's me 2050
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WhiskeyMan
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Location: PA Joined: 04.27.2018
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That is not correct. A player bought out does not count towards the three salary retention slots - MJL
Dead Cap slots is different than retention.
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funmaster18
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Location: All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz and I'm fine. Joined: 03.15.2009
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Not sure how accurate but saw a source say Krug is waiving how NTC today and to buckle up 🤔 |
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