LeftCoaster
|
|
 |
Location: Valley Of The Sun Joined: 07.03.2009
|
|
|
Dvorsky is the guy I'd have an eye on if D men are getting drafted ahead of us. - golfingsince
For a draft that supposed to be center heavy, people are sure talking about defenceman a lot. |
|
|
|
Put down the bong, you’re such a drama queen. There are two players in the entire league who have a cap hit of 12 million dollars or higher, McDavid and MacKinnon, he’s not getting 12 million.
They’ll come to an agreement on a long term contract around the 10 million dollar mark with the escrow expected to be paid off and the cap to rise in 2024/25. - LeftCoaster
Or he could ask for a trade. |
|
LeftCoaster
|
|
 |
Location: Valley Of The Sun Joined: 07.03.2009
|
|
|
Or he could ask for a trade. - A_SteamingLombardi
Perhaps. I think he’s going to want to see some major improvements with the way the Canucks do business. There was some nice improvements with Tocchet coming in but they’ve gotta keep building on that.
Kaprizov had a 108 point year and signed for 9 million a year. There’s no hurry to sign him, Pettersson, see how he performs this year. You should be able to compete with two 8+ million dollar forwards, one 7+ million dollar dman and a 6+ million dollar goalie. Like Tampa, as an example, did last year when they lost in the finals. |
|
golfingsince
|
|
 |
Location: This message is Marwood approved! Joined: 11.30.2011
|
|
|
Put down the bong, you’re such a drama queen. There are two players in the entire league who have a cap hit of 12 million dollars or higher, McDavid and MacKinnon, he’s not getting 12 million.
They’ll come to an agreement on a long term contract around the 10 million dollar mark with the escrow expected to be paid off and the cap to rise in 2024/25. - LeftCoaster
He's not wrong, the cap is rising and the players know it. |
|
LeftCoaster
|
|
 |
Location: Valley Of The Sun Joined: 07.03.2009
|
|
|
He's not wrong, the cap is rising and the players know it. - golfingsince
There’s no chance he gets 12 million even with a rising cap. That’s my belief, he’s worth it, but he won’t get it. Comparable players who signed recently don’t make that kind of money. He’s worth a lot as he drives the bus offensively for the club but he’s not a next level player…..yet.
Less than two years ago Barkov signed for eight years 10 million a year. Last year Zibanejad signed for eight years at 8.5 million. Kaprizov just signed for 9 million a year. Pastrnak just signed the sixth largest deal in NHL history for 11.25 million and he’s got a proven track record. Brayden Point just signed an eight year deal for 9.5 million a year and he also has a proven track record. |
|
carsonagenic
Vancouver Canucks |
|
 |
Location: AB Joined: 03.08.2006
|
|
|
There’s no chance he gets 12 million even with a rising cap. That’s my belief, he’s worth it, but he won’t get it. Comparable players who signed recently don’t make that kind of money. He’s worth a lot as he drives the bus offensively for the club but he’s not a next level player…..yet.
Less than two years ago Barkov signed for eight years 10 million a year. Last year Zibanejad signed for eight years at 8.5 million. Kaprizov just signed for 9 million a year. Pastrnak just signed the sixth largest deal in NHL history for 11.25 million and he’s got a proven track record. Brayden Point just signed an eight year deal for 9.5 million a year and he also has a proven track record. - LeftCoaster
Barkov and Point both are in the "no state tax" of Florida so their take home saleries must be pro rated. Overall all the players listed had to sign deals in the covid hangover of downward revenue. With league funds projected to increase over the next few seasons, agents and players know they are coming into a happy time of contracts. Matthews is already touted to be the richest contract in the league when he resigns. So Petey will for sure be in the 10 to 11 range to stay in Vancouver. |
|
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks |
|
Location: Canuckville, BC Joined: 01.09.2015
|
|
|
Petey 8/10.25m my prediction |
|
golfingsince
|
|
 |
Location: This message is Marwood approved! Joined: 11.30.2011
|
|
|
There’s no chance he gets 12 million even with a rising cap. That’s my belief, he’s worth it, but he won’t get it. Comparable players who signed recently don’t make that kind of money. He’s worth a lot as he drives the bus offensively for the club but he’s not a next level player…..yet.
Less than two years ago Barkov signed for eight years 10 million a year. Last year Zibanejad signed for eight years at 8.5 million. Kaprizov just signed for 9 million a year. Pastrnak just signed the sixth largest deal in NHL history for 11.25 million and he’s got a proven track record. Brayden Point just signed an eight year deal for 9.5 million a year and he also has a proven track record. - LeftCoaster
Any of those deals to me aren't a true reflection of where the cap is headed. Instead, look at Marner's and Tavares' deals. They're coming to the end of 11M deals, and Patterson is worth more than either.
The cap will rise, so will player salaries especially at the top. |
|
Sayros
Vancouver Canucks |
|
Location: Canada, AB Joined: 07.01.2007
|
|
|
Or he could ask for a trade. - A_SteamingLombardi
Exactly. Asking for 12M (which his agent wouldn’t be hesitant to do) could be akin to asking for a trade. |
|
Sayros
Vancouver Canucks |
|
Location: Canada, AB Joined: 07.01.2007
|
|
|
For a draft that supposed to be center heavy, people are sure talking about defenceman a lot. - LeftCoaster
Don’t worry, we’ll find the Oli Juolevi. |
|
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks |
|
 |
Location: Las Vegas Joined: 08.05.2014
|
|
|
Put down the bong, you’re such a drama queen. There are two players in the entire league who have a cap hit of 12 million dollars or higher, McDavid and MacKinnon, he’s not getting 12 million.
They’ll come to an agreement on a long term contract around the 10 million dollar mark with the escrow expected to be paid off and the cap to rise in 2024/25. - LeftCoaster
Don’t agree. If they want him to sign this summer they need to overpay |
|
|
|
I would be the happiest Canucks fan ever, if they got rid of Pouty and Queenie.
Go Allvin Go |
|
|
|
Management must be asleep at the wheel, agin.
Nice trade by the Flames, Sharangovich is a nice player. |
|
Makita
Referee Vancouver Canucks |
|
 |
Location: #theonlyrealfan, BC Joined: 02.16.2007
|
|
|
I would be the happiest Canucks fan ever, if they got rid of Pouty and Queenie.
Go Allvin Go - Reubenkincade
 never ending.
Pettersson is a Canucks franchise player, Hughes will win the Norris as a Canuck.
Now that being said, I cannot understand the thinking in here, the same posters over and over criticize every move the Canucks make and then criticize every move they don’t make…lol, I am really surprised that the news isn’t constant bridge closures with the amount of distraught jumpers in this site.
Allvin is doing a really good job, go Canucks go. |
|
Sayros
Vancouver Canucks |
|
Location: Canada, AB Joined: 07.01.2007
|
|
|
never ending.
Pettersson is a Canucks franchise player, Hughes will win the Norris as a Canuck.
Now that being said, I cannot understand the thinking in here, the same posters over and over criticize every move the Canucks make and then criticize every move they don’t make…lol, I am really surprised that the news isn’t constant bridge closures with the amount of distraught jumpers in this site.
Allvin is doing a really good job, go Canucks go. - Makita
Well I mean losing, not making playoffs and generally not having a chance for the better part of a decade will do that to a fan base.
Especially difficult while watching countless franchises rebuild (retool or whatever the heck you want to call it) and get back to being competitive in less than a handful of years.
|
|
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks |
|
 |
Location: Las Vegas Joined: 08.05.2014
|
|
|
Management must be asleep at the wheel, agin.
Nice trade by the Flames, Sharangovich is a nice player. - Reubenkincade
He is pretty one dimensional and not what we need |
|
Makita
Referee Vancouver Canucks |
|
 |
Location: #theonlyrealfan, BC Joined: 02.16.2007
|
|
|
Well I mean losing, not making playoffs and generally not having a chance for the better part of a decade will do that to a fan base.
Especially difficult while watching countless franchises rebuild (retool or whatever the heck you want to call it) and get back to being competitive in less than a handful of years. - Sayros
I guess that’s fair in some individuals but if Canucks were to sign anyone (PLD, Hall, Hayes, etc) there would be non-stop female doging, too old, too slow, bent over a barrel, yada yada.
These fantasy trades of Hughes, Pettersson, that are bantered about as the saving of the franchise would be the further downfall and yet further complaints from the very same fans that they were traded and succeeded on other teams.
In my opinion Allivin is doing just fine. |
|
|
|
I guess that’s fair in some individuals but if Canucks were to sign anyone (PLD, Hall, Hayes, etc) there would be non-stop female doging, too old, too slow, bent over a barrel, yada yada.
These fantasy trades of Hughes, Pettersson, that are bantered about as the saving of the franchise would be the further downfall and yet further complaints from the very same fans that they were traded and succeeded on other teams.
In my opinion Allivin is doing just fine. - Makita
I get you and you probably know these attitudes by others are compounded by the results.
They don’t want to rebuild around the young core that’s losing they want a new one. Which if they trade them out, there could be complaints that follow on how it’s not good enough.
I am not sure what the balance will be between patience and change. |
|
|
|
Well I mean losing, not making playoffs and generally not having a chance for the better part of a decade will do that to a fan base.
Especially difficult while watching countless franchises rebuild (retool or whatever the heck you want to call it) and get back to being competitive in less than a handful of years. - Sayros
Really? I see most in limbo. Only a few like Rangers and Panthers emerged. But that too can be short lived. Now LA about to step into it. We’ll see how that goes. |
|
LeftCoaster
|
|
 |
Location: Valley Of The Sun Joined: 07.03.2009
|
|
|
" The 2023 NHL Entry Draft is widely considered to be one of the deepest Draft pools in recent years, especially for forwards. National pundit Craig Button recently opined that he believes there are roughly 20 to 24 prospects available who, without too much of a leap of faith, have top-six forward or top-four defensemen upside if they develop as hoped. There are also the usual assorted sleepers who could surge in their post-Draft year after being selected beyond the first round."
Most exciting day of the year, despite some losers like Vantel and VHG saying the Canucks don't care about the draft, which they clearly do, today will set the future building blocks in place for a lot of NHL clubs...including the Canucks. |
|
LeftCoaster
|
|
 |
Location: Valley Of The Sun Joined: 07.03.2009
|
|
|
Management must be asleep at the wheel, agin.
Nice trade by the Flames, Sharangovich is a nice player. - Reubenkincade
You're a (frank)in short-sighted moron. The Flames traded Tyler Pitlick, Emil Heineman (good young prospect), a 1st round pick, a 4th round pick and a 5th round pick for Tyler Toffoli.
They just traded him for a depth center and a 3rd round pick. That's terrible asset management when you view things from a broader perspective. Like Jim Benning terrible!! If that were the Canucks you'd be screaming bloody murder of how bad management is for giving all that up for such a putrid return...moron.
And your spelling is still as bad as my math!! |
|
|
|
never ending.
Pettersson is a Canucks franchise player, Hughes will win the Norris as a Canuck.
Now that being said, I cannot understand the thinking in here, the same posters over and over criticize every move the Canucks make and then criticize every move they don’t make…lol, I am really surprised that the news isn’t constant bridge closures with the amount of distraught jumpers in this site.
Allvin is doing a really good job, go Canucks go. - Makita
I guess if Erik Kartsson can win a Norris, while playing brutal defense, then maybe one day Hughes can as well.
Sorry I don't feel the same way as you do about the 2 mentioned players, I will try my best to be a better Canucks fan. |
|
|
|
You're a (frank)in short-sighted moron. The Flames traded Tyler Pitlick, Emil Heineman (good young prospect), a 1st round pick, a 4th round pick and a 5th round pick for Tyler Toffoli.
They just traded him for a depth center and a 3rd round pick. That's terrible asset management when you view things from a broader perspective. Like Jim Benning terrible!! If that were the Canucks you'd be screaming bloody murder of how bad management is for giving all that up for such a putrid return...moron.
And your spelling is still as bad as my math!!  - LeftCoaster
isnt that how it is said by you Americans? |
|
LeftCoaster
|
|
 |
Location: Valley Of The Sun Joined: 07.03.2009
|
|
|
isnt that how it is said by you Americans? - Reubenkincade
Only in Louisiana |
|
VanHockeyGuy
|
|
 |
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC Joined: 04.26.2012
|
|
|
"The 2023 NHL Entry Draft is widely considered to be one of the deepest Draft pools in recent years, especially for forwards. National pundit Craig Button recently opined that he believes there are roughly 20 to 24 prospects available who, without too much of a leap of faith, have top-six forward or top-four defensemen upside if they develop as hoped. There are also the usual assorted sleepers who could surge in their post-Draft year after being selected beyond the first round."
Most exciting day of the year, despite some losers like Vantel and VHG saying the Canucks don't care about the draft, which they clearly do, today will set the future building blocks in place for a lot of NHL clubs...including the Canucks.  - LeftCoaster
Probably the dumbest post I've read here in years. Are you and the wife hosting another swingers party tonight by the saltwater pool for the draft? |
|