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Sayros
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canada, AB
Joined: 07.01.2007

Jun 27 @ 7:45 PM ET
It is really not that big of an issue. If he wants over 10 mil you trade him and get a very good return. It is not like we are one move away from the cup.

Instant cap relief and a sh1tload of prospects and young players in return. I don't see this as a problem TBH.

- VANTEL


Oh yeah, totally agree if all options were on table. It just seems like this franchise operates with the notion that there will be no true rebuild, so cashing in on an asset like this usually doesn’t happen. Not sure why they continue to handicap themselves in this way (other than Aquilini theory), but they do.
LeftCoaster
Location: Valley Of The Sun
Joined: 07.03.2009

Jun 27 @ 7:46 PM ET
They have the money to re-sign him, but does it make sense to lock out the rest of your team build? If Boeser is his winger and his first pair D has Myers on it where do you think the team will end up?

I like the player personally but signing him at 10 mil and the rest of your team is the Canucks it sort of reminds me like owning a Rolls Royce and living in a tent on Hastings.

- VANTEL

Do you know how many good teams pay their star players, that’s more than one player, that kind of money? Teams like Tampa won the Stanley Cup paying Stamkos, Hedman, Kucherov etc. millions.

It’s the waste of paying guys like Boeser 6.5 million. Get rid of him and pay good players.
Sayros
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canada, AB
Joined: 07.01.2007

Jun 27 @ 7:47 PM ET
Tyler Toffoli has been traded to NJ for Yegor Sharangovich and a third
- LeftCoaster


Not bad return considering he wanted out. Better than Van got anyway! That Yegor guy actually impressed me.
K-man25
Calgary Flames
Location: K Town
Joined: 09.02.2014

Jun 27 @ 7:49 PM ET
He was a healthy scratch.
- VANTEL

JB?
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jun 27 @ 7:51 PM ET
JB?
- K-man25



Abby
@Hockey2L
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37m
Toffoli scored 34 goals and had 73 points last season and that’s all the flames got for him
K-man25
Calgary Flames
Location: K Town
Joined: 09.02.2014

Jun 27 @ 7:53 PM ET
Abby
@Hockey2L
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37m
Toffoli scored 34 goals and had 73 points last season and that’s all the flames got for him

- VANTEL


Career year for him, they gained Capspace and got a 3rd round back. Conroy didn’t want to run out of time.
boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Jun 27 @ 8:05 PM ET
They have the money to re-sign him, but does it make sense to lock out the rest of your team build? If Boeser is his winger and his first pair D has Myers on it where do you think the team will end up?

I like the player personally but signing him at 10 mil and the rest of your team is the Canucks it sort of reminds me like owning a Rolls Royce and living in a tent on Hastings.

- VANTEL


You think Myers will be here after this season?
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Jun 27 @ 8:13 PM ET
If Elias Pettersson scores around 100 points again you give him the 9-10 million a year, all day, every day. You don’t trade a franchise player because he wants what the market says he worth, you pay him and build around him.

If you don’t have the cap space, then be better at your job and manage your teams money better. Lots of teams are paying a franchise player that kind of money.

- LeftCoaster

9 or 10? Delusional! He will be making $12
Sayros
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canada, AB
Joined: 07.01.2007

Jun 27 @ 8:15 PM ET

Career year for him, they gained Capspace and got a 3rd round back. Conroy didn’t want to run out of time.

- K-man25


Touché!
golfingsince
Location: This message is Marwood approved!
Joined: 11.30.2011

Jun 27 @ 8:45 PM ET
9 or 10? Delusional! He will be making $12
- CanuckDon

I'd say $11 at a minimum
Shuswap Wap
Location: BC
Joined: 02.07.2018

Jun 27 @ 8:54 PM ET
I'd say $11 at a minimum
- golfingsince

Depends on when he signs and whether he stays healthy. Both sides could play a little poker on that front. You never know what hand the season will deal you.
golfingsince
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Jun 27 @ 8:59 PM ET
Depends on when he signs and whether he stays healthy. Both sides could play a little poker on that front. You never know what hand the season will deal you.
- Shuswap Wap

I was basing it on another 100 point season.
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Jun 27 @ 9:08 PM ET
If Elias Pettersson scores around 100 points again you give him the 9-10 million a year, all day, every day. You don’t trade a franchise player because he wants what the market says he worth, you pay him and build around him.

If you don’t have the cap space, then be better at your job and manage your teams money better. Lots of teams are paying a franchise player that kind of money.

- LeftCoaster

His qualifying offer will be 10.25 so probably 2-3 over that.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jun 27 @ 9:14 PM ET
His qualifying offer will be 10.25 so probably 2-3 over that.
- A_SteamingLombardi


I am pretty sure they changed that rule his QO would be his AAV
Shuswap Wap
Location: BC
Joined: 02.07.2018

Jun 27 @ 9:14 PM ET
His qualifying offer will be 10.25 so probably 2-3 over that.
- A_SteamingLombardi

Unless, for some reason, he doesn’t replicate last season, in which you’d be forced into another contract like Boeser. Some of theses bridge deals have painted teams in a corner. If they can’t surround him with a competitive team then he’ll end up like Timo Meier.
golfingsince
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Jun 27 @ 9:16 PM ET
I am pretty sure they changed that rule his QO would be his AAV
- VANTEL

IF he's a top 10 scorer in the league again he's going to get paid, especially at his age. There's absolutely nothing wrong with paying him as he's our best player.

8x11 would be great to me, but I doubt he accepts that
golfingsince
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Jun 27 @ 9:18 PM ET
Unless, for some reason, he doesn’t replicate last season, in which you’d be forced into another contract like Boeser. Some of theses bridge deals have painted teams in a corner. If they can’t surround him with a competitive team then he’ll end up like Timo Meier.
- Shuswap Wap

He's 24 years old, a max deal expires at age 33. I wouldn't be surprised if he wanted 12.5 on an 8 year deal. It would likely be worth it.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jun 27 @ 9:22 PM ET
IF he's a top 10 scorer in the league again he's going to get paid, especially at his age. There's absolutely nothing wrong with paying him as he's our best player.

8x11 would be great to me, but I doubt he accepts that

- golfingsince


I was just pointing out the rules changed about the QO. No longer the last year of the contract as the offer it is now the AAV.

For the record I think he will be traded. I just got that feeling from PA at his presser last week. Just a hunch. Could be next year.
golfingsince
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Jun 27 @ 9:30 PM ET
I was just pointing out the rules changed about the QO. No longer the last year of the contract as the offer it is now the AAV.

For the record I think he will be traded. I just got that feeling from PA at his presser last week. Just a hunch. Could be next year.

- VANTEL

Yeah that's fair.

If he were to be traded I imagine it would be for a substantial package. I don't really care as long as you receive more than full value.

He's our best homegrown talent in a long time, you can't give that up for a middling return.
golfingsince
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Jun 27 @ 9:40 PM ET
Dvorsky is the guy I'd have an eye on if D men are getting drafted ahead of us.
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Jun 27 @ 9:44 PM ET
I'd say $11 at a minimum
- golfingsince

Absolutely. And if he gets 100 points again like chubs mentioned it will be $12 minimum
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Jun 27 @ 9:45 PM ET
Dvorsky is the guy I'd have an eye on if D men are getting drafted ahead of us.
- golfingsince

He is my guy but no chance he is there at 11. (frank) . Big versatile centers don’t drop. Ever
golfingsince
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Jun 27 @ 9:50 PM ET
He is my guy but no chance he is there at 11. (frank)
- CanuckDon


Probably not, but there will absolutely be a good prospect available even if it's the midget Russian winger.
Retinalz
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 01.31.2015

Jun 27 @ 10:58 PM ET
Does anyone know where I can find a free stream of the draft tomorrow?
LeftCoaster
Location: Valley Of The Sun
Joined: 07.03.2009

Jun 27 @ 10:59 PM ET
9 or 10? Delusional! He will be making $12
- CanuckDon

Put down the bong, you’re such a drama queen. There are two players in the entire league who have a cap hit of 12 million dollars or higher, McDavid and MacKinnon, he’s not getting 12 million.

They’ll come to an agreement on a long term contract around the 10 million dollar mark with the escrow expected to be paid off and the cap to rise in 2024/25.
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