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manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Jun 27 @ 1:24 PM ET
Everyday Sens
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Dorion says he doesn't believe the Senators will obtain a first round selection for tomorrow's draft. #GoSensGo

Adds that this was a year not to have a first round pick based on his scouting evaluations.


Although the answer is maybe, Ottawa isn't the best team to listen too about scouting.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Jun 27 @ 1:26 PM ET
If he’s there I think they take him.
- LeftCoaster

Reinbacher, Willander or Simashev if any of them are there unless Dvorsky drops. I'd expect those 4 then if all are gone maybe Danielson or Barlow.
LeftCoaster
San Jose Sharks
Location: Shark City, CA
Joined: 07.03.2009

Jun 27 @ 1:27 PM ET
Teams just giving players away for nothing after signing them to bad deals. Boston and Philly got hosed for Hall and Hayes.
LeftCoaster
San Jose Sharks
Location: Shark City, CA
Joined: 07.03.2009

Jun 27 @ 1:28 PM ET
Reinbacher, Willander or Simashev if any of them are there unless Dvorsky drops. I'd expect those 4 then if all are gone maybe Danielson or Barlow.
- manvanfan

Agree…
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jun 27 @ 1:30 PM ET
Teams just giving players away for nothing after signing them to bad deals. Boston and Philly got hosed for Hall and Hayes.
- LeftCoaster


Gary and the cap.
VanHockeyGuy
Joined: 04.26.2012

Jun 27 @ 1:34 PM ET
Reinbacher, Willander or Simashev if any of them are there unless Dvorsky drops. I'd expect those 4 then if all are gone maybe Danielson or Barlow.
- manvanfan


Yup.
boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Jun 27 @ 1:34 PM ET
If he’s there I think they take him.
- LeftCoaster


Left shot. I really think they should address the always present issue of not having a solid R shot in the prospect system instead. Plus he is a offensive black hole.
LeftCoaster
San Jose Sharks
Location: Shark City, CA
Joined: 07.03.2009

Jun 27 @ 1:38 PM ET
Left shot. I really think they should address the always present issue of not having a solid R shot in the prospect system instead. Plus he is a offensive black hole.
- boonerbuck

He’s be a great partner for Hughes or Hronek. Skating is all-world! Transitions the puck really really well and is a good defender. Absolutely nothing wrong with that as they have two young offensive guys already.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jun 27 @ 1:44 PM ET
How we doing on the trade Bear front? Can we expect a first in return?
VanHockeyGuy
Joined: 04.26.2012

Jun 27 @ 1:45 PM ET
Left shot. I really think they should address the always present issue of not having a solid R shot in the prospect system instead. Plus he is a offensive black hole.
- boonerbuck


Jett Woo.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jun 27 @ 1:52 PM ET
Hayes goes for a sixth round pick and Hall goes for scraps, what do you think we will get for Boeser Garland and Myers?
boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Jun 27 @ 1:52 PM ET
He’s be a great partner for Hughes or Hronek. Skating is all-world! Transitions the puck really really well and is a good defender. Absolutely nothing wrong with that as they have two young offensive guys already.
- LeftCoaster


Wouldn't you rather have a right shot beside Hughes? Willander can skate and defend and is better at offense on top of that... a fit with Hughes on the right side.

Left shot are much easier to acquire by other means or in later rounds.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Jun 27 @ 1:52 PM ET
Left shot. I really think they should address the always present issue of not having a solid R shot in the prospect system instead. Plus he is a offensive black hole.
- boonerbuck

Not wrong in that Cole McWard is the best prospect right shot D the team has where as D-Petey made a big improvement this season and is looking like a capable 2nd pairing guy now instead of a 3rd pairing defender.

Draft year numbers although in different leagues are near identical.

Simashev KHL 18 games 0 points, MHL 29 games 10 points
Pettersson SHL 17 games 1 point, Jrs 37 games 18 points

D-Petey might have had a better season than Liam Bischel who was taken 22nd by Dallas in the same draft.
boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Jun 27 @ 1:53 PM ET
Jett Who.
- VanHockeyGuy


Corrected.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Jun 27 @ 1:53 PM ET
Hayes goes for a sixth round pick and Hall goes for scraps, what do you think we will get for Boeser Garland and Myers?
- VANTEL

Those are 31 year olds.
boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Jun 27 @ 1:53 PM ET
Hayes goes for a sixth round pick and Hall goes for scraps, what do you think we will get for Boeser Garland and Myers?
- VANTEL


Told to (frank) off.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jun 27 @ 1:54 PM ET
Those are 31 year olds.
- manvanfan


So younger scraps are better.
LeftCoaster
San Jose Sharks
Location: Shark City, CA
Joined: 07.03.2009

Jun 27 @ 1:56 PM ET
Hayes goes for a sixth round pick and Hall goes for scraps, what do you think we will get for Boeser Garland and Myers?
- VANTEL

Ryan Johansen too.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jun 27 @ 1:57 PM ET
Ryan Johansen too.
- LeftCoaster



Bad year for trades
VanHockeyGuy
Joined: 04.26.2012

Jun 27 @ 1:57 PM ET
Hayes goes for a sixth round pick and Hall goes for scraps, what do you think we will get for Boeser Garland and Myers?
- VANTEL


Easier to wait for their contracts to expire.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Jun 27 @ 1:58 PM ET
So younger scraps are better.
- VANTEL

Durzi went for a 2nd round pick. He was a replacement level 3rd pairing defender in LA last season. 24 yrs old.
LeftCoaster
San Jose Sharks
Location: Shark City, CA
Joined: 07.03.2009

Jun 27 @ 1:58 PM ET
Wouldn't you rather have a right shot beside Hughes? Willander can skate and defend and is better at offense on top of that... a fit with Hughes on the right side.

Left shot are much easier to acquire by other means or in later rounds.

- boonerbuck

I don’t disagree, I just think his skating is the best I’ve seen. Happy with either though all things being equal.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Jun 27 @ 1:58 PM ET
Ryan Johansen too.
- LeftCoaster

Also 31 next month. The upside pretty much gone.
LeftCoaster
San Jose Sharks
Location: Shark City, CA
Joined: 07.03.2009

Jun 27 @ 2:00 PM ET
Hayes goes for a sixth round pick and Hall goes for scraps, what do you think we will get for Boeser Garland and Myers?
- VANTEL

I don’t think Allvin is in a position to where he has to give anyone away for nothing, like those other guys. They already bit their bullet with the OEL buyout.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Jun 27 @ 2:02 PM ET
I don’t think Allvin is in a position to where he has to give anyone away for nothing, like those other guys. They already bit their bullet with the OEL buyout.
- LeftCoaster

That was probably the discussion if they will take on OEL at half for a late round pick. Honestly a year or two ago those players would have cost a 1st or 2nd round pick to get rid off at half price. Now they actually yield a return.
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