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LeftCoaster
Location: Valley Of The Sun
Joined: 07.03.2009

Jun 24 @ 3:38 PM ET
Avs are noticeably absent
- neem55

I know I said "Western Conference", but I was being specific to the Canucks own division. If they don't get a top three spot in the Pacific Division their chances of getting a wild card spot are slim and none IMO.

The Avs have a perennial Norris caliber kid in Makar but they also had Josh Manson who's 6'3" 220 pounds, Erik Johnson who's 6'4" 225 pounds, Andreas Englund who's 6'3" 190 pounds, Devon Toews who's 6'1" 195 pounds, Bowen Byram who's 6'1" 195 pounds....they are nowhere near as small and slight as the Canucks defense.
VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Jun 24 @ 3:41 PM ET
I know I said "Western Conference", but I was being specific to the Canucks own division. If they don't get a top three spot in the Pacific Division their chances of getting a wild card spot are slim and none IMO.

The Avs have a perennial Norris caliber kid in Makar but they also had Josh Manson who's 6'3" 220 pounds, Erik Johnson who's 6'4" 225 pounds, Andreas Englund who's 6'3" 190 pounds, Devon Toews who's 6'1" 195 pounds, Bowen Byram who's 6'1" 195 pounds....they are nowhere near as small and slight as the Canucks defense.

- LeftCoaster


Until they correct that they will continue to be b1tches.
Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Jun 24 @ 3:51 PM ET
I know I said "Western Conference", but I was being specific to the Canucks own division. If they don't get a top three spot in the Pacific Division their chances of getting a wild card spot are slim and none IMO.

The Avs have a perennial Norris caliber kid in Makar but they also had Josh Manson who's 6'3" 220 pounds, Erik Johnson who's 6'4" 225 pounds, Andreas Englund who's 6'3" 190 pounds, Devon Toews who's 6'1" 195 pounds, Bowen Byram who's 6'1" 195 pounds....they are nowhere near as small and slight as the Canucks defense.

- LeftCoaster


Avalanche also had Jack Johnson at 6'1 225lbs

I bet Neem is the life of the party.
Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Jun 24 @ 3:53 PM ET
A+ for effort...it ain't happening though shorty.
- LeftCoaster


Don't ruin my fantasy
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Jun 24 @ 3:54 PM ET
Hello my name is Inigo Montoya you killed my father prepare to die.
LeftCoaster
Location: Valley Of The Sun
Joined: 07.03.2009

Jun 24 @ 4:08 PM ET
Don't ruin my fantasy
- Reubenkincade

You're asking for a full-scale rebuild, like what's happening in AZ, that's not happening in Vancouver, never will with Aquilini as owner. Just start cheering for the Coyotes, they're doing what you want.
micah555
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I look forward to the heartache and tears. - Marwood, BC
Joined: 10.03.2007

Jun 24 @ 4:16 PM ET
I know I said "Western Conference", but I was being specific to the Canucks own division. If they don't get a top three spot in the Pacific Division their chances of getting a wild card spot are slim and none IMO.

The Avs have a perennial Norris caliber kid in Makar but they also had Josh Manson who's 6'3" 220 pounds, Erik Johnson who's 6'4" 225 pounds, Andreas Englund who's 6'3" 190 pounds, Devon Toews who's 6'1" 195 pounds, Bowen Byram who's 6'1" 195 pounds....they are nowhere near as small and slight as the Canucks defense.

- LeftCoaster


Avs are moving on from Erik Johnson because he's not very good at hockey.
Quinn's Quest
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 08.08.2022

Jun 24 @ 4:18 PM ET
No one thinks they're a playoff team with a few tweaks and a full year under Tocchet.
- Marwood


Fixed.

You think your 💩 don’t stink?
LeftCoaster
Location: Valley Of The Sun
Joined: 07.03.2009

Jun 24 @ 4:23 PM ET
Avs are moving on from Erik Johnson because he's not very good at hockey.
- micah555

Thanks tips! To your point, yes they are, he's not worth his 6 million dollar salary and he's now 35 years old. Salary and declining skillset are their reasons. That doesn't take away from the fact he's a large dman who played on their team, averaging over seventeen minutes a night, when the won the Cup two seasons ago.
micah555
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I look forward to the heartache and tears. - Marwood, BC
Joined: 10.03.2007

Jun 24 @ 4:35 PM ET
Thanks tips! To your point, yes they are, he's not worth his 6 million dollar salary and he's now 35 years old. Salary and declining skillset are their reasons. That doesn't take away from the fact he's a large dman who played on their team, averaging over seventeen minutes a night, when the won the Cup two seasons ago.
- LeftCoaster


17 minutes a night is not a lot and as you say, his cap hit was well out of alignment with his contribution which is why it was so valuable to have their stars making as little as they did. I would describe him as more of a passenger on that incredibly talented team. Makar and MacKinnon and Kadri and a number of other very high skill players won the Stanley Cup. Erik Johnson was a serviceable role player who was present while that happened and he didn't (frank) it up.

I think the size obsession is overblown. Certainly, it's not a great idea to run all smurfs, but the Hatcher era is long over. The big boys need to be able to play hockey at a high level. Johnson is not that. He had some very gifted teammates, but he does not move the needle.

I mean, we have Myers and nobody likes him.
Quinn's Quest
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 08.08.2022

Jun 24 @ 4:42 PM ET
I think after all these years Lefty finally got something right suggesting Hughes and Hronek are the skilled players now time for size and stay home D with a touch of toughness.

This is why I want Shimashev if they do keep the pick.

- VANTEL


Sure he might make it in 3 years. Two left in KHL 1 for Abby to acclimate.

In the meantime. Sign guys like Mayfield, Graves and Soucy or trade for Stanley wanting out of Jets. The big tough defensive D to fill in around QH and Hronek.
LeftCoaster
Location: Valley Of The Sun
Joined: 07.03.2009

Jun 24 @ 4:48 PM ET
17 minutes a night is not a lot and as you say, his cap hit was well out of alignment with his contribution which is why it was so valuable to have their stars making as little as they did. I would describe him as more of a passenger on that incredibly talented team. Makar and MacKinnon and Kadri and a number of other very high skill players won the Stanley Cup. Erik Johnson was a serviceable role player who was present while that happened and he didn't (frank) it up.

I think the size obsession is overblown. Certainly, it's not a great idea to run all smurfs, but the Hatcher era is long over. The big boys need to be able to play hockey at a high level. Johnson is not that. He had some very gifted teammates, but he does not move the needle.

I mean, we have Myers and nobody likes him.

- micah555

That’s exactly what the Canucks need, serviceable/affordable players with size in their 4/5/6 role on defence. This is where a young defenceman on an ELC would be an excellent fit for the Canucks. Someone like Mattias Samuelsson over there in Buffalo the past couple years.

I wonder if Cole McWard can fill that void for the Canucks?
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jun 24 @ 5:56 PM ET

Elliotte Friedman
@FriedgeHNIC
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1h
Sean Durzi from LA to ARIZ for a second round pick in 2024
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jun 24 @ 6:02 PM ET
David Pagnotta
@TheFourthPeriod
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49m
Lots of movement today. With STL/PHI putting finishing touches on Hayes deal, it sounds like Winnipeg is working hard on moving one of their big available guys. Some traction on PLD. Something to keep tabs on. #GoJetsGo
Quinn's Quest
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 08.08.2022

Jun 24 @ 6:04 PM ET
Elliotte Friedman
@FriedgeHNIC
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1h
Sean Durzi from LA to ARIZ for a second round pick in 2024

- VANTEL


If only Canucks had their ‘24 2nd round pick and not have sent it out for cap space for Bear. Maybe they could have pulled in Durzi.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jun 24 @ 6:17 PM ET
If only Canucks had their ‘24 2nd round pick and not have sent it out for cap space for Bear. Maybe they could have pulled in Durzi.
- Quinn's Quest


He is Yotes highest paid Dman @1.7 mil a year. He was minus 12 last year with 9 goals.

Think we need players to keep the puck out of our net more.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jun 24 @ 6:20 PM ET
Sounds like LA clearing cap and making room for PLD.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jun 24 @ 6:23 PM ET
Kuzmenko’s Banana 🍌
@kuzmenkosbanana
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18h
Tanev was literally the perfect partner for Hughes. Benning just let him walk because he was too busy trying to get OEL. Jesus Christ. 🤦‍♂️ #Canucks


Chris Gear
@vangearman
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22m
Replying to
@kuzmenkosbanana
Not what happened. Not even close.


...........................................................

Gear crushing false rumors
LeftCoaster
Location: Valley Of The Sun
Joined: 07.03.2009

Jun 24 @ 6:26 PM ET
David Pagnotta
@TheFourthPeriod
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49m
Lots of movement today. With STL/PHI putting finishing touches on Hayes deal, it sounds like Winnipeg is working hard on moving one of their big available guys. Some traction on PLD. Something to keep tabs on. #GoJetsGo

- VANTEL

Andy Strickland…

“Kevin Hayes has a 12 team no trade list, #stlblues  are not on it meaning he would accept a trade to STL. There were rumors of Hayes coming to Blues last week but never materialized. Stay tuned”

VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jun 24 @ 6:29 PM ET
Andy Strickland…

“Kevin Hayes has a 12 team no trade list, #stlblues  are not on it meaning he would accept a trade to STL. There were rumors of Hayes coming to Blues last week but never materialized. Stay tuned”

- LeftCoaster


Apparently it is not the NTC holding it up, it is other parts of the trade that are falling apart.
boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Jun 24 @ 6:30 PM ET
Kuzmenko’s Banana 🍌
@kuzmenkosbanana
·
18h
Tanev was literally the perfect partner for Hughes. Benning just let him walk because he was too busy trying to get OEL. Jesus Christ. 🤦‍♂️ #Canucks


Chris Gear
@vangearman
·
22m
Replying to
@kuzmenkosbanana
Not what happened. Not even close.


...........................................................

Gear crushing false rumors

- VANTEL


18h ago he drops this bombshell. This was actually news nearly 3 years ago.

#journalism
LeftCoaster
Location: Valley Of The Sun
Joined: 07.03.2009

Jun 24 @ 6:37 PM ET
Apparently it is not the NTC holding it up, it is other parts of the trade that are falling apart.
- VANTEL

Be interesting to see if it comes together and who’s involved.
Jkuzzi
Joined: 12.14.2016

Jun 24 @ 7:24 PM ET
Be interesting to see if it comes together and who’s involved.
- LeftCoaster


Shipping out a dman signed longer. Must be
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Jun 24 @ 7:36 PM ET
He is Yotes highest paid Dman @1.7 mil a year. He was minus 12 last year with 9 goals.

Think we need players to keep the puck out of our net more.

- VANTEL

Durzi can’t defend. Like all of our players
neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

Jun 24 @ 8:04 PM ET
I know I said "Western Conference", but I was being specific to the Canucks own division. If they don't get a top three spot in the Pacific Division their chances of getting a wild card spot are slim and none IMO.

The Avs have a perennial Norris caliber kid in Makar but they also had Josh Manson who's 6'3" 220 pounds, Erik Johnson who's 6'4" 225 pounds, Andreas Englund who's 6'3" 190 pounds, Devon Toews who's 6'1" 195 pounds, Bowen Byram who's 6'1" 195 pounds....they are nowhere near as small and slight as the Canucks defense.

- LeftCoaster

Girard and Makar. I agree with what you’re saying, but let’s be accurate.
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