Couturier plays a physical game? I mean, I wouldn’t say he shys away from it but…physical player isn’t what I think when I think Sean Couturier.
- SuperSchennBros

I would say Coots plays a cerebral game. Always in the right place.

honor over business on that one, guy was bargan deal for so long and who they were going to re-tool with. I get it. If he stayed healthy it would have been a good deal under 8 mil, for the player. CF just couldn't see what was next. Sure sign Coots, then hold your picks and lose for a year or two, contending was never an option, Coots had 8 years. 20/20, yea should have moved him but I get why not, the OTHER moves are really what is troublesome.
- wcorvette

There is really a handicapped mindset in here when fans think you simply “shouldn’t have” paid the player. Simmonds and Couturier were two examples of who were a total bargain. I think Wayne Simmonds is example of a player who probably should have got more but was talked into being “team friendly” AKA ripped off. I could be wrong.

I would say Coots plays a cerebral game. Always in the right place.
- MBFlyerfan

No doubt.

Trading Couturier for future assets before re-signing had merit. Contrary to popular opinion and from incorrect sources. My stance was not to re-sign him to build around him. It was to re-sign him so that they had some support to take on the heavy minutes. He is also a player that makes every player around him better. He is worth the cost if he can come back healthy to help the rebuild. Otherwise, who is the #1 center? Frost? Gauthier comes in as a center and is rushed in terms of deployment and usage? Maybe they can do the same thing they did to Provorov and stunt players growth.
- MJL

It had more than merit. It was the logical right move.
you do not sign someone for that term and money to log heavy minutes and support. You can do that in other cheaper ways. That type of deal is a build around deal. That was their flawed intention 100%.

Who stunted Ivans growth, cant remember who the GM was at the time.

I guess if you’re offered a first for Laughton you have to do it, but he seems like the type of guy you need on a, soon to be, very young club.
- Dkos

why do you think that is the case?

Trading Laughton would be a real alpha move by Danny.
- Tomahawk

Sending out one of Torts' guys would signal who really is in charge.

The thing that has been bothering me is that they keep talking about the pick being a late first. Well, if they are dealing with a good team, then of course the pick is going to be a late first.

I don't see many rebuilding teams with potential high firsts wanting to deal for Laughton. And you aren't getting a high round first from the teams that have been rumored to be asking about him.

It just seems silly to word it that way. IMO getting any first round pick for Laughton is a great starting point. The fact it may be later in the first round is really out of the control of the team offering.
- MBFlyerfan

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would have to be one that has multiple picks I guess, options, Detriot at 17, AZ at12
1. Chicago Blackhawks
2. Anaheim Ducks
3. Columbus Blue Jackets
4. San Jose Sharks
5. Montreal Canadiens
6. Arizona Coyotes
7. Philadelphia Flyers
8. Washington Capitals
9. Detroit Red Wings
10. St. Louis Blues
11. Vancouver Canucks
12. Arizona Coyotes (from Ottawa Senators)
13. Buffalo Sabres
14. Pittsburgh Penguins
15. Nashville Predators
16. Calgary Flames
17. Detroit Red Wings (from New York Islanders via Vancouver Canucks)
18. Winnipeg Jets
19. Chicago Blackhawks (from Tampa Bay Lightning)
20. Seattle Kraken
21. Minnesota Wild
22. Columbus Blue Jackets (from Los Angeles Kings)
23. New York Rangers
24. Nashville Predators (from Edmonton Oilers)
25. St. Louis Blues (from Toronto Maple Leafs)
26. San Jose Sharks (from New Jersey Devils)
27. Colorado Avalanche

I would say Coots plays a cerebral game. Always in the right place.
- MBFlyerfan

my opinion but he took off when he learned how to use his body to protect the puck, that with his hockey IQ

Looks like Danny is actively shopping Laughton, TK and Hayes. Hopefully the goal of collecting more draft capital, younger prospects and freeing cap space will very soon be achieved. I love TK but you have to sell high on him at this point, he will bring a lot back in a trade. Hayes and Laughton just don't fit the rebuild timeline. I am actually looking forward to seeing a fresh new team going into next season. It will be great looking forward to some exciting players coming up for once.

Couturier plays a physical game? I mean, I wouldn’t say he shys away from it but…physical player isn’t what I think when I think Sean Couturier.
- SuperSchennBros

he does in the sense that he takes body contact to control the puck, so he is phycial from that sense.

Looks like Danny is actively shopping Laughton, TK and Hayes. Hopefully the goal of collecting more draft capital, younger prospects and freeing cap space will very soon be achieved. I love TK but you have to sell high on him at this point, he will bring a lot back in a trade. Hayes and Laughton just don't fit the rebuild timeline. I am actually looking forward to seeing a fresh new team going into next season. It will be great looking forward to some exciting players coming up for once.
- jd250

No it looks like teams have reached out about Laughton. Where do you see they are actively shopping TK?

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would have to be one that has multiple picks I guess, options, Detriot at 17, AZ at12
1. Chicago Blackhawks
2. Anaheim Ducks
3. Columbus Blue Jackets
4. San Jose Sharks
5. Montreal Canadiens
6. Arizona Coyotes
7. Philadelphia Flyers
8. Washington Capitals
9. Detroit Red Wings
10. St. Louis Blues
11. Vancouver Canucks
12. Arizona Coyotes (from Ottawa Senators)
13. Buffalo Sabres
14. Pittsburgh Penguins
15. Nashville Predators
16. Calgary Flames
17. Detroit Red Wings (from New York Islanders via Vancouver Canucks)
18. Winnipeg Jets
19. Chicago Blackhawks (from Tampa Bay Lightning)
20. Seattle Kraken
21. Minnesota Wild
22. Columbus Blue Jackets (from Los Angeles Kings)
23. New York Rangers
24. Nashville Predators (from Edmonton Oilers)
25. St. Louis Blues (from Toronto Maple Leafs)
26. San Jose Sharks (from New Jersey Devils)
27. Colorado Avalanche
- wcorvette

I can see a team like Colorado, St Louis or Nashville giving up their late 1st for Laughton. What I wonder is if Danny can pry a 2nd round pick from anyone for Hayes if he covers half the remaining salary.

he does in the sense that he takes body contact to control the puck, so he is phycial from that sense.
- wcorvette

He doesn't go looking for hits but when it's the right defensive play he isn't shy about taking the body.

I can see a team like Colorado, St Louis or Nashville giving up their late 1st for Laughton. What I wonder is if Danny can pry a 2nd round pick from anyone for Hayes if he covers half the remaining salary.
- jd250

you have your 22, plus players, maybe you can get AZ or Wings to move their late 1st pick. Not sure AZ would move the 12th

my comments back then supported Coots staying, and I still see value if he can stay healthy. We know he is well rested and has not accrued additional wear and tear, LOL. I think he comes out the gate strong, then we will really know around game 50. He will have Cam on his wing, assuming others will be traded. The Flyers have winger options that would fit with Coots and give him the chance to put up points. Cam can play left side and the right side is their position of Strength. I mean a line with Cam, Coots and Foerster has potential, if all healthy.

If Coots can play well enough to help Cam have a good season, where the Flyers can flip him at the deadline that would be an asset. Coots can contribute in different ways.
- wcorvette

I hope you're right about him coming out strong but I think it's going to take some time for him to get his timing and legs back. Barring any additional moves. The Flyers with the current make up of the defense, are not going to be a good offensive team. Nor do I see them being a good defensive team. I currently see another bottom 10 team which in terms of the future. Is not a bad thing.

He doesn't go looking for hits but when it's the right defensive play he isn't shy about taking the body.
- Tomahawk

I think fans forget that about prospects, most, it takes time to add the right weight and with experience, learn how to use it, why players have a prime I geuss, lol. Frost, Tippet etc, we want to see what they are when they hit their prime. Coots went from being a D center to 2-way once he figured it out, hope he can get back to that, after the Flyers finish bottom 3 next season

I would say Coots plays a cerebral game. Always in the right place.
- MBFlyerfan

No question. In terms of physicality, he's not a guy who runs around throwing hits but he is extremely strong on the puck and in physical coverage.

I hope you're right about him coming out strong but I think it's going to take some time for him to get his timing and legs back. Barring any additional moves. The Flyers with the current make up of the defense, are not going to be a good offensive team. Nor do I see them being a good defensive team. I currently see another bottom 10 team which in terms of the future. Is not a bad thing.
- MJL

Coots out of the gate will be good, then down to earth, then game 50 we will see Coots, think we are saying the same thing.

I hope they're bottom 3, but I can also see a scenario where Cam and Coots play well, Hart is here and plays really well and the kids all take a step forward, causing them to finish outside of the top 10, sorry bottom 10.

Looks like Danny is actively shopping Laughton, TK and Hayes. Hopefully the goal of collecting more draft capital, younger prospects and freeing cap space will very soon be achieved. I love TK but you have to sell high on him at this point, he will bring a lot back in a trade. Hayes and Laughton just don't fit the rebuild timeline. I am actually looking forward to seeing a fresh new team going into next season. It will be great looking forward to some exciting players coming up for once.
- jd250

It's rumor season. Don't believe everything you read. My read is that teams are calling about Laughton, rather than him being shopped. Probably the same with Konecny. I would think Hayes is being shopped.

why do you think that is the case?
- hello it's me 2050

Because they’re a bad team with a wacko coach. It’s good to have an older guy, who has the trust of both the players and the coaches, to help the kids navigate new territory.

So with Bill suggesting the Fkyers may not rate Benson highly. So hypothetically the draft goes ( no particular order)

Bedard
Fantilli
Carlsson
Smith
Leonard
Michkov

Should the Flyers take Reinbacher over Dvorsky and Moore. For me, thr answer is "yes". I believe Reinbacher's ceiling is higher.

my opinion but he took off when he learned how to use his body to protect the puck, that with his hockey IQ
- wcorvette

He took off when Hakstol moving him out of checking role and played him as a top center on an offensive line.

https://www.tsn.ca/craig-...ad-of-nhl-draft-1.1972205

Knowing he will not suit up in the NHL until at least the 2026-27 season due to his contract, questions have arisen over when or if Michkov will come to North America. Button is unconcerned, citing the Columbus Blue Jackets signing forward Dmitri Voronkov and the Washington Capitals inking 2022 first-round pick Ivan Miroshnichenko to entry-level contracts in May.

“I see zero risk in Matvei Michkov,” said Button. “Russian players are coming to the NHL; we’re seeing that happen. All you got to do is wait three years and there’s a lot of teams that should be in no hurry to have a player coming to the lineup.”

Button said teams that are years away from contending can continue to build out their rosters in anticipation of Michkov’s arrival as a 21-year-old. He noted the Chicago Blackhawks built a championship-winning squad when Jonathan Toews and Patrick Kane were still on their entry-level contracts.

“If you are a team that knows [its] not in a rush, in three years’ time when he does come, and he’s 21 on an entry-level contract, he’s going to be an elite player that has got massive value.”

So with Bill suggesting the Fkyers may not rate Benson highly. So hypothetically the draft goes ( no particular order)

Bedard
Fantilli
Carlsson
Smith
Leonard
Michkov

Should the Flyers take Reinbacher over Dvorsky and Moore. For me, thr answer is "yes". I believe Reinbacher's ceiling is higher.
- Trox88

All three of those guys could be considered high-floor picks.

Reinbacher's bell curve is centered on high-end #2 guy. If everything goes right he could have #1 potential but it's not as likely.

Simashev is probably the guy you'd pick if you want the D with the highest pure upside. 6'5 and skates like Duncan Keith.

https://www.tsn.ca/craig-...ad-of-nhl-draft-1.1972205
- MBFlyerfan

Now there's a more reasoned take on the Michkov situation.