Florida is barely a playoff team. They rode Bob to the final, and they might miss the playoffs next season.
- shack67

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- fifty__missions

They made the big trade and went from first overall to almost missing the playoffs. And now you want to credit that trade for their playoff success. One word sums it up, Bobrovsky.

They made the big trade and went from first overall to almost missing the playoffs. And now you want to credit that trade for their playoff success. One word sums it up, Bobrovsky.
- shack67

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- fifty__missions

Why are you always angry?

From Previous Blog:

I agree with this. From an outside standpoint I would keep Nylander all day. He plays much better in playoffs, provides elite Top 6 offence.

Neither is physical.

Marner kills on pk but is not good 5v5 defensively.

Leafs pk would be fine without Marner. They may get less scoring chances while on pk but really shorties typically don’t make or break making the postseason and are not very common especially in playoffs when teams are more dialled in.

Nylander is not good defensively (any situation).

Marner as a winger makes WAY to much cash.

Nylander next contract will still be cheaper than Marners current one.

34 scores regardless of who he plays with.

Leafs still make playoffs without Marner and it’s crazy to suggest they wouldn’t. If you took 34 off the team they still make the playoffs.

Marner is a giveaway machine. He disappears (impact wise) in playoffs because he has less time and space to make his plays. It works regular season and in Jr but in the NHL playoffs it does not. His plays are super high risk at the wrong time.

Both are VERY good players. I personally enjoy watching boys creativity and offence. I dislike how opposed they both are to physicality though but real good wingers regardless.

Based on Cap & Return I trade Marner ALL DAY
- Big23Questions



Thank you for summarizing all my thoughts! Agree with all of the above.
It's a funny thing. The 80's and 90's are generally thought to be way more physical than today, but I actually believe Marner would have thrived back then.
These days, the larger average player size, and systems that get played to perfection, limit a player like Marner's ability to do what he does best. It sort of sucks, because during the regular season, it's a joy to watch him; he really may be the most fun guy to watch in the league, when he has time.
I doubt Gretzky would have been what he was in today's game either. Lindros in his prime on the other hand, would have likely been unstoppable today.
I just can't stand watching an $11M dollar player, get routinely nullified by a $2M opposing player, EVERY SINGLE PLAYOFF.
Rant aside, I'd love him to suddenly click and turn into Doug Gilmour every playoff. I thought he had it in him to do just that his first few years. Doesn't seem likely anymore.

Except Vegas and Florida.

Who are in the FINAL. Last time I checked you needed to get there to win the Cup.

Toxic positivity, Zez. You're blind.
- fifty__missions

Well you're in defensive pessimism. Whatever Vegas and Florida are doing this year is irrelevant.

Why are you always angry?
- shack67

I'm not angry at all. It's like arguing with a Trump supporter, is all.

Well you're in defensive pessimism. Whatever Vegas and Florida are doing this year is irrelevant.
- Zezel

No, Zez. I want the Leafs to *do something*, like both Vegas and Florida have done, to get better. That is not pessimistic.

I'm not angry at all. It's like arguing with a Trump supporter, is all.
- fifty__missions

Because I don’t agree with you? Be better man.

Because I don’t agree with you? Be better man.
- shack67

Lol. Thanks for the pep talk.

It's not that you don't agree with me - it's that your arguments are idiotic.

and Vegas open the scoring in game 4

Lol. Thanks for the pep talk.
- fifty__missions

I guess Carolina should burn it to the ground by your logic.

Lol. Thanks for the pep talk.

It's not that you don't agree with me - it's that your arguments are idiotic.
- fifty__missions

And you think that yours are brilliant. Jesus

I guess Carolina should burn it to the ground by your logic.
- shack67

This is what I mean by idiotic. I have never said "burn it to the ground". Go ahead and continue to make poop up though.

And another thing - Carolina will most likely make a significant change to their core group after that sweep.

But whatever. Keep on keeping on shack!

And you think that yours are brilliant. Jesus
- shack67

Yes, making a change to a core group that has utterly failed 7 straight seasons is pretty (frank)ing radical thinking, isn't it!

This is what I mean by idiotic. I have never said "burn it to the ground". Go ahead and continue to make poop up though.

And another thing - Carolina will most likely make a significant change to their core group after that sweep.

But whatever. Keep on keeping on shack!
- fifty__missions

Fifty your shtick is to moan and complain constantly. I’m pretty sure that I’m not the only one on here that wonders why you care enough to even be here.

Fifty your shtick is to moan and complain constantly. I’m pretty sure that I’m not the only one on here that wonders why you care enough to even be here.
- shack67

Keep making poop up shack.

This is what I mean by idiotic. I have never said "burn it to the ground". Go ahead and continue to make poop up though.

And another thing - Carolina will most likely make a significant change to their core group after that sweep.

But whatever. Keep on keeping on shack!
- fifty__missions

when you say "run it back". Don't you mean exactly the bolded?


Well, that how I interpret your comment

Fifty your shtick is to moan and complain constantly. I’m pretty sure that I’m not the only one on here that wonders why you care enough to even be here.
- shack67

Seconded. The guy just needs to go to actual therapy and stop trying to use this place for it ffs.

when you say "run it back". Don't you mean exactly the bolded?


Well, that how I interpret your comment
- dmnted

I want a core piece moved to allow better balance to the roster, and a different style. Our core four are all too passive - nice, polite boys.

Capeesh?

Florida is barely a playoff team. They rode Bob to the final, and they might miss the playoffs next season.
- shack67

Meh, at least they did soemthing in the playoffs.
Also, they won the presidents trophy last season ,no?
Doesnt sound like barely a playoff team.
Had a rough go this season.

Meh, at least they did soemthing in the playoffs.
Also, they won the presidents trophy last season ,no?
Doesnt sound like barely a playoff team.
Had a rough go this season.
- Fakepartofme

President’s trophy came before they changed their core. A hot goalie took the Habs to the final also.

I want a core piece moved to allow better balance to the roster, and a different style. Our core four are all too passive - nice, polite boys.

Capeesh?
- fifty__missions

Capisce

but whom shall depart if they do depart?
Could there be more than one?

I just had a kit kat chunky and peroni.

I feel much better.
Go leafs go
- Fakepartofme

Imagine if you had a snickers

Thank you for summarizing all my thoughts! Agree with all of the above.
It's a funny thing. The 80's and 90's are generally thought to be way more physical than today, but I actually believe Marner would have thrived back then.
These days, the larger average player size, and systems that get played to perfection, limit a player like Marner's ability to do what he does best. It sort of sucks, because during the regular season, it's a joy to watch him; he really may be the most fun guy to watch in the league, when he has time.
I doubt Gretzky would have been what he was in today's game either. Lindros in his prime on the other hand, would have likely been unstoppable today.
I just can't stand watching an $11M dollar player, get routinely nullified by a $2M opposing player, EVERY SINGLE PLAYOFF.
Rant aside, I'd love him to suddenly click and turn into Doug Gilmour every playoff. I thought he had it in him to do just that his first few years. Doesn't seem likely anymore.



The game is grossly over coached absolutely. The systems in place and the assignments in every zone is incredible. A lot of the flow and creativity died as a result. That’s why watching McDavid is so fun to me. His speed allows him an ‘out’ from the suffocating systems. There is no system to defend against a player with that level skill at that godlike speed.

It’s an odd opinion of mine - but I think the red line out hurt that aspect. It sped up the game and that’s good (except for head injuries) but it took away the need to play east west and that kinda Denis Savard, Lemieux etc., type of weaving and going in and out of guys with crazy hands and give and go’s and all that went away.

It seems to be:
- stop a cycle or collect the rebound
- quick pass up
- then another to the far blue and in

It’s very repetitive that way now. I think to me that’s why I like watching McJesus - he almost winds it up and goes end to end through guys like Modano did.

Not saying they should the red back in but I just think the ‘together’ up ice as a unit where all those awesome plays happened are gone.