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Peter Richards
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.24.2019

Jun 9 @ 12:31 PM ET
Nah konecny and lemieux
- 2Real



I asked bill before and he said he doesn’t feel the flyers will retain lemeuix. Shame I like his game in the small sample size he played and like his skating.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jun 9 @ 12:33 PM ET
"This is just like the time I traded back and drafted Cam York over Cole Caulfield and Matt Boldy"

"Yup guys, the app says its a fair trade, wanna take a look?"

"No, I don't think three years is too long to wait for Michkov. Heck, I once waited so long for a Russian in Minnesota that I forgot he was even in our system!"

"OK guys, I'm signing off before the 2nd-round begins. I'll be back for the 3rd."

- Tomahawk



That trade app was proprietary property of the Flyers. He had to surrender that when he was fired.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jun 9 @ 12:34 PM ET
I asked bill before and he said he doesn’t feel the flyers will retain lemeuix. Shame I like his game in the small sample size he played and like his skating.
- Peter Richards


He's a 4th line scrub. Flyers have enough of them and need to have open roster spots for younger players.
jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Jun 9 @ 12:42 PM ET
The Sharks have been on a downswing for a while now, much like the Flyers, but don't seem to be taking the route of a full teardown or large-scale rebuild. They're trying to re-tool their team on the fly, and in theory, going after a goalie like Hart would keep things moving.

But according to Sheng Peng of San Jose Hockey Now, the price from the Flyers [for Hart] that's out there right now – per a source – is two first-round picks, and that would only be the start of the conversation.

Bill Meltzer
Editor
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.13.2006

Jun 9 @ 12:46 PM ET
Bill, what input did Jones have on the trade?
- ClaudeFather


I don't think much was needed, other than agreeing that it's the direction they want to go.
Sinisalo4vr
Location: Dont f with the Jesus, PA
Joined: 06.24.2016

Jun 9 @ 12:47 PM ET
[quote=jd250]
Negotiating through the press.
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Jun 9 @ 12:48 PM ET
He's a 4th line scrub. Flyers have enough of them and need to have open roster spots for younger players.
- MJL

What younger players should occupy that 4th line? what you would do for the 4th line.
jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Jun 9 @ 12:52 PM ET
I asked bill before and he said he doesn’t feel the flyers will retain lemeuix. Shame I like his game in the small sample size he played and like his skating.
- Peter Richards

But do you want to waste a roster spot and cap space on him when you are trying to give young players roster spots and recoup cap space? The Flyers are not the place for him.
Peter Richards
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.24.2019

Jun 9 @ 12:53 PM ET
He's a 4th line scrub. Flyers have enough of them and need to have open roster spots for younger players.
- MJL


If Allison is playing the young guys will have plenty of opportunities to be called up. Unless it’s Elliot. I wouldn’t play a lot of prospects in a 4 th line role. And every team has a 4 th line.

Who knows what else happens with trades. Minus Tyson, what prospect is ready to play in the nhl on the regular?
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Jun 9 @ 12:54 PM ET
I don't think much was needed, other than agreeing that it's the direction they want to go.
- bmeltzer

Bill, excluding the Russian, what's the chances whoever they draft at 7 makes the flyers out of camp?
Peter Richards
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.24.2019

Jun 9 @ 12:54 PM ET
But do you want to waste a roster spot and cap space on him when you are trying to give young players roster spots and recoup cap space? The Flyers are not the place for him.
- jd250


Getting prospects a few games is one thing. But throwing them to the wolves is another.
Sinisalo4vr
Location: Dont f with the Jesus, PA
Joined: 06.24.2016

Jun 9 @ 1:01 PM ET
If Allison is playing the young guys will have plenty of opportunities to be called up. Unless it’s Elliot. I wouldn’t play a lot of prospects in a 4 th line role. And every team has a 4 th line.

Who knows what else happens with trades. Minus Tyson, what prospect is ready to play in the nhl on the regular?

- Peter Richards

Brink may be ready depending on his training camp.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jun 9 @ 1:01 PM ET
If Allison is playing the young guys will have plenty of opportunities to be called up. Unless it’s Elliot. I wouldn’t play a lot of prospects in a 4 th line role. And every team has a 4 th line.

Who knows what else happens with trades. Minus Tyson, what prospect is ready to play in the nhl on the regular?

- Peter Richards


There is no reason not to play young players on the 4th line. There should be an open competition for ice time and a spot on the team between young players. There is no need to keep 4th line scrubs in the lineup. Players like Deslauriers and Lemieux should be jettisoned.
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Jun 9 @ 1:02 PM ET
There is no reason not to play young players on the 4th line. There should be an open competition for ice time and a spot on the team between young players. There is no need to keep 4th line scrubs in the lineup. Players like Deslauriers and Lemieux should be jettisoned.
- MJL



:cue obligatory Hello Its Me 2050 response:


hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Jun 9 @ 1:03 PM ET
There is no reason not to play young players on the 4th line. There should be an open competition for ice time and a spot on the team between young players. There is no need to keep 4th line scrubs in the lineup. Players like Deslauriers and Lemieux should be jettisoned.
- MJL

you keep saying play the young guys. What young guys Cliff? Who do you have in mind?
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Jun 9 @ 1:03 PM ET
:cue obligatory Hello Its Me 2050 response:



- MBFlyerfan

not allowed to respond or ask questions?
jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Jun 9 @ 1:05 PM ET
Getting prospects a few games is one thing. But throwing them to the wolves is another.
- Peter Richards

I only consider a prospect being thrown to wolves if he is not physically able to compete against NHL players. So for example, if Brink at some point this season has earned a shot to play for the big club, I don't want a scrub like Lemieux getting in his way.
jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Jun 9 @ 1:06 PM ET
Someone told me to dial back the Carter Hart (trade talk). They don't think that that necessarily is on the front burner and we should take a timeout on that one, so I will," said Friedman.

"I do think Philly is looking at Tony DeAngelo. I think they're aggressive on that front about trying to see what the market is for him. So, I think that DeAngelo moves to the front burner ahead of Hart. And someone said to me, 'Dial that one down, because I don't think that one's imminent.'


This was surprises me a bit, since I think the Flyers would be selling low on DeAngelo for this off-season, but perhaps the relationship between Tony and Torts is just too far gone.
Peter Richards
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.24.2019

Jun 9 @ 1:12 PM ET
There is no reason not to play young players on the 4th line. There should be an open competition for ice time and a spot on the team between young players. There is no need to keep 4th line scrubs in the lineup. Players like Deslauriers and Lemieux should be jettisoned.
- MJL


i don't think that would be the best development path for each player. and you didn't answer the question. i wouldn't or don't think tyson should be getting 4th line minutes. and injuries will happen, especially if allison and tanner are still on this team. if they earn it, so be it. someone can take the 13th spot.


Peter Richards
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.24.2019

Jun 9 @ 1:12 PM ET
:cue obligatory Hello Its Me 2050 response:



- MBFlyerfan


he's living in you head, rent free as you say.
Minnyhock
Minnesota Wild
Joined: 06.26.2021

Jun 9 @ 1:13 PM ET
[quote=jd250]

Maybe the Sharks should have just kept Adin Hill. Two 1st round picks just to start the conversation for Hart. A 2nd, 3rd and 4th to start a conversation on TDA and a 5th just to think of starting a conversation on Hayes.

Phillywhiteout
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: West Chester, PA
Joined: 08.11.2020

Jun 9 @ 1:16 PM ET
Bill if the Fyers got the first pick in that draft and picked Patrick Kane instead of JVR do you think they would have wone the cup during that time period with Carter and Richards?
- jimbass1
I'm not Bill, but in my opinion that is a resounding YES! Hell, they would have most likely won in 2010 if the Flyers had Kane and the Hawks had JVR.
Phillywhiteout
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: West Chester, PA
Joined: 08.11.2020

Jun 9 @ 1:19 PM ET
https://twitter.com/FlyersNation/status/1667198559748251649?t=mfmHMWmDiMv1ydk475D0vA&s=19

Oh my 🤣🤣🤣🤣

- Trox88
Perhaps Chuckles can put in a good word for Hexy and they will give him some summer employment too.
Don Nachbaur
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.01.2021

Jun 9 @ 1:19 PM ET
What younger players should occupy that 4th line? what you would do for the 4th line.
- hello it's me 2050


I asked him that this past season but he would not provide specific examples. Let's say they put someone like Jackson Cates on the 4th and he is getting the 8 minutes a game. Do the Flyers or Cates benefit from that? MJL will then complain that the Flyers aren't using him properly and archaic Torts the dinosaur doesn't know how to utilize the younger players.
Phillywhiteout
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: West Chester, PA
Joined: 08.11.2020

Jun 9 @ 1:24 PM ET
This was surprises me a bit, since I think the Flyers would be selling low on DeAngelo for this off-season, but perhaps the relationship between Tony and Torts is just too far gone.
- jd250
I would imagine that to be the case. I'm guessing that Tony told Torts to flip off and that's why he didn't play the last 5 games of the season or whatever. I mean, they dressed 5 defenders the one game to keep him out of the lineup. Buh bye turd! Angelo seems like a self entitled jerkoff that sucks at the game of hockey.
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