We definitely do differ. It seems that the Jets have been doing this “partial rebuild” since they relocated here from, Atlanta. This was the main reason the Jets kept Lawless’s aptly named “Atlanta 5” together, which ironically only one was every traded away to recoup any assets. Now the Atlanta 5 is the Atlanta 1 and it still does not look like we will get any significant assets for him. This strengthens the argument of how poorly Chevy manages assets.

I do admire your optimism in Chevy. After 12 years of this, I actually think the “partial rebuild” should begin in the front office with Chevelallseasonoff getting the axe first.

#firechevy
- TheUltimateJet

Thinking we kept Wheeler, who has played his guts out on every shift, was kept hoping he could take us to the promised land. I believe even you predicted Lord Stanley for the Jets this season. And they weren't far off.

But it's time to move on - buyout! He needs to leave the dressing room!

It's the ideal time for a "partial rebuild", and we have some big horses to send out which should bring back some significant pieces going forward.

If it pans out that these significant pieces aren't brought back, than, yes, I will agree Chevy needs to go. It is make or break time for Chevy! He is on the clock!

We definitely do differ. It seems that the Jets have been doing this “partial rebuild” since they relocated here from, Atlanta. This was the main reason the Jets kept Lawless’s aptly named “Atlanta 5” together, which ironically only one was every traded away to recoup any assets. Now the Atlanta 5 is the Atlanta 1 and it still does not look like we will get any significant assets for him. This strengthens the argument of how poorly Chevy manages assets.

I do admire your optimism in Chevy. After 12 years of this, I actually think the “partial rebuild” should begin in the front office with Chevelallseasonoff getting the axe first.

#firechevy
- TheUltimateJet

If I recall the Atlanta 5 were Wheeler, Ladd, Little, Buff, Enstrom, so let's run thru what happened with them:
Enstrom - retired to play in Sweden after the Jets 2018 run. Yep Chevy should of traded him to Modo for the some Ikea furniture
Buff - retired after he blew his ankle out and fishing was more appealing than rehab. Guess Chevy could of traded him to Florida for some fishing lures
Little - had to retire after an errant Ehlers slapshot hit him in the ear. Damn that Chevy for deflecting that puck
Ladd - Traded basically for Marko Dano, that was a bit of a swing and a miss by Chevy but at least he took a swing
Wheeler - Locker room drama be damned he earned the right to control the room considering he carried this team offensively for years and not sure who would of been better.

So unless Chevy would of traded the players when they still had playing value for magic beans (see Ladd trade) I think Chevy did all right by hanging to them.

But then that is just my opinion which is just as valuable or useless as yours.

Was this not the logic why we kept Blake Wheeler? All these guys have been captained by Wheeler and look what it supposedly did to Scheifele.

I keep hearing this story about Lowry grabbing Laine and telling him that he better come to team dinner as opposed to going to his room to play video games (that is bullying behaviour). Do we really want that energy for our young players?

Last year I said go all-in with the expectation that this franchise would tear it all down this offseason. I am in the tear it all down camp.
- TheUltimateJet

The end of season comments from Morrissey and Lowry about Bones final post game interview of the season and that Wheeler is still the defacto captain should make every Jets fan question the so called leadership abilities of these two.

Can't have Wheeler "leadership" traits effecting or influencing the next generation of the Jets.

This team needs a full rebuild, tear it down to the studs and start over but this poorly run organization won't do that, forever content with mediocrity and Wheeler's terrible legacy.

If I recall the Atlanta 5 were Wheeler, Ladd, Little, Buff, Enstrom, so let's run thru what happened with them:
Enstrom - retired to play in Sweden after the Jets 2018 run. Yep Chevy should of traded him to Modo for the some Ikea furniture
Buff - retired after he blew his ankle out and fishing was more appealing than rehab. Guess Chevy could of traded him to Florida for some fishing lures
Little - had to retire after an errant Ehlers slapshot hit him in the ear. Damn that Chevy for deflecting that puck
Ladd - Traded basically for Marko Dano, that was a bit of a swing and a miss by Chevy but at least he took a swing
Wheeler - Locker room drama be damned he earned the right to control the room considering he carried this team offensively for years and not sure who would of been better.

So unless Chevy would of traded the players when they still had playing value for magic beans (see Ladd trade) I think Chevy did all right by hanging to them.

But then that is just my opinion which is just as valuable or useless as yours.
- tornado24

Wheeler earned the right to be a bully and a piece of 💩?

Good gawd what mind boggling logic, Wheeler is a cancer that should've been cutout years ago.

Little and Buff held this group together till Buff couldn't handle Wheeler's nonsense anymore, too bad the team pulled Buff off of Wheeler and then Little's unfortunate injury happened.

This organization has earned all these issues they have, they could've and should've dealt with Wheeler a long time ago.

I can't agree with this statement any more than if it came out of my own mouth.... This is 10000000% correct. Wheeler just took over from Ladd and the locker room drama and the idiotic penalties at every inopportune time.

Wheeler earned the right to be a bully and a piece of 💩?

Good gawd what mind boggling logic, Wheeler is a cancer that should've been cutout years ago.

Little and Buff held this group together till Buff couldn't handle Wheeler's nonsense anymore, too bad the team pulled Buff of him and then Little's unfortunate injury happened.

This organization has earned all these issues they have, they could've and should've dealt with Wheeler a long time ago.
- JetFuel

My friends in the know in the hockey world say getting Byfeild would be a major mistake by Chevy. His value is vastly overrated.

If a deal happens with LAK then Vilardi + would be the much better option. Even Kaliyev would be a better option than QB.
- jetsnation

Elliott Friedman today.....

“We’ll see where this goes here but like I said I think this is working towards something. When it comes to the Kings and the Jets there’s a lot of questions about Byfield, these predictions can always end up exploding all over your face but I don’t think Byfield’s in this. I mean I know there’s been a lot of rumours about Byfield. I don’t think so.”

Thinking we kept Wheeler, who has played his guts out on every shift, was kept hoping he could take us to the promised land. I believe even you predicted Lord Stanley for the Jets this season. And they weren't far off.

But it's time to move on - buyout! He needs to leave the dressing room!

It's the ideal time for a "partial rebuild", and we have some big horses to send out which should bring back some significant pieces going forward.

If it pans out that these significant pieces aren't brought back, than, yes, I will agree Chevy needs to go. It is make or break time for Chevy! He is on the clock!
- grahamzky

As a Jets fan, I always pick the Jets to win the cup. Most of it is just wishful thinking. This was the year for Chevy to really earn his strip and go all-in. The Jets were very far off.

It seems that we are all buying into the comments from the media where we believe the room is toxic. It makes 0 logical sense to bring back anyone if this is the case. Like who is Morrissey and Lowry learning who to be a leader from?

I am all in for a full tear down and build back up.

If I recall the Atlanta 5 were Wheeler, Ladd, Little, Buff, Enstrom, so let's run thru what happened with them:
Enstrom - retired to play in Sweden after the Jets 2018 run. Yep Chevy should of traded him to Modo for the some Ikea furniture
Buff - retired after he blew his ankle out and fishing was more appealing than rehab. Guess Chevy could of traded him to Florida for some fishing lures
Little - had to retire after an errant Ehlers slapshot hit him in the ear. Damn that Chevy for deflecting that puck
Ladd - Traded basically for Marko Dano, that was a bit of a swing and a miss by Chevy but at least he took a swing
Wheeler - Locker room drama be damned he earned the right to control the room considering he carried this team offensively for years and not sure who would of been better.

So unless Chevy would of traded the players when they still had playing value for magic beans (see Ladd trade) I think Chevy did all right by hanging to them.

But then that is just my opinion which is just as valuable or useless as yours.
- tornado24

We can agree to disagree. Keeping those guys until they reached their 30’s made sense. Signing Byfuglien, Wheeler and Little to contract extensions as they were hitting their 30’s was a recipe for disaster. Ladd would have been extended here too, if his contract demands were met.

It’s also interesting to note that both Enstrom and Byfuglien left this team under precarious circumstances.

On a side note, I think Taylor Hall will go with the distinction of playing with the most 1st overall draft picks:

Ryan Nugent-Hopkins
Nail Yakupov
Connor Mcdavid
Nico Hischier
Rasmus Dahlin

and now,
Connor Bedard

It's ironic as he was a #1 overall pick as well.

As a Jets fan, I always pick the Jets to win the cup. Most of it is just wishful thinking. This was the year for Chevy to really earn his strip and go all-in. The Jets were very far off.

It seems that we are all buying into the comments from the media where we believe the room is toxic. It makes 0 logical sense to bring back anyone if this is the case. Like who is Morrissey and Lowry learning who to be a leader from?

I am all in for a full tear down and build back up.
- TheUltimateJet

If, as you say, "the Jets were far off", why would he earn his strip and go "all-in?"

If, as you say, "the Jets were far off", why would he earn his strip and go "all-in?"
- grahamzky

Considering that Scheifele, Hellebyuck and Wheeler are all UFA’s after the 2023-24 season, this was the season to go “all-in”. As I have stated numerous times, whether we win or lose, this was the offseason to “tear it down”. Getting Niedereiter and Namestinkov is not my idea of going “all-in”. If he had gone for a Bigger fish, we would have been close to winning the cup, considering the early success this team was having.

Hopefully that makes sense!

Also good catch on the typo, meant to write stripe.

As much as PLD is a Francophone and has roots in Mtl you would have to think that the appeal of going to LA where he can golf and surf in the sunny afternoons after practice and date Hollywood babes has to be quite intriguing. Those cold Quebec winters can be quickly forgotten.

As much as PLD is a Francophone and has roots in Mtl you would have to think that the appeal of going to LA where he can golf and surf in the sunny afternoons after practice and date Hollywood babes has to be quite appealing. Those cold Quebec winters can be quickly forgotten.
- jetsnation

From all reports it seems like he’s already been traded to LA. The deal has not officially been announced yet.

From all reports it seems like he’s already been traded to LA. The deal has not officially been announced yet.
- TheUltimateJet

PLD still has to sign the extension, possibly that part is already fait accompli though

PLD still has to sign the extension, possibly that part is already fait accompli though
- jetsnation

IF LA - I would be quite happy with a deal that went something like this:

To LA - PLD, Heinola, Harkins and right to L. Gawanke

To Wpg - Vilardi, Iafallo, Pinelli, Kaluyev (or Kupari) and either 2nd rd pick or J. Spence

IF LA - I would be quite happy with a deal that went something like this:

To LA - PLD, Heinola, Harkins and right to L. Gawanke

To Wpg - Vilardi, Iafallo, Pinelli, Kaluyev (or Kupari) and either 2nd rd pick or J. Spence
- grahamzky

I think the problem is the PLD doesn't want to sign an 8-year deal with LA without some provision/demand that he gets traded after a few years so he can still have his dream to be a Hab. Is that number 2 years or 3 years. So PLD doesn't mind playing somewhere else while the Habs finish their rebuild . The problem with that demand is that PLD may not be wanted in MTL in three years , and also that LAK would not get the proper haul coming back to them in 2-3 years if PLD only wants to be traded to the Habs. Difficult situation.

Apparently the DuBois’s are friendly with Robataille and Marc Bergevin, both in LA so the level of comfort is high.

if we don’t get one of : 2024 1st, Clarke or Byfield I would suggest that the odds are 40/60 that we get the short end of the deal

I’d send PLD, Heinola, Harkins and the 18th overall to LA for Clarke, Vilardi, Iafallo and 2nd rd this year

Clarke is going to be worth it I believe

Kevin Hayes to the Blues at 50% retained for a measly 6th round pick, Philly just giving away that oh so precious cap space for peanuts... lol

Hayes is still a 50 point center and at only a $3.5M cap hit will be good value, great trade for the Blues.

Habs aquire Newhook for cheap - do they really want Newhook or is about finding the assets for a PLD trade? Perhaps Newhook frees up another player to include in a deal?

love the trade, thank you pat brisson for taking this over and getting it done