GreatGigInTheSky
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Location: "Yeah, Garth is a tool"- Garf, ON Joined: 06.12.2017
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Being how he’s 24, I think a pick in the 20s is feasible. Most goalies don’t even get their full-time break until then. He’s ready to go.
But I don’t even know who wants him. Since he is only 24, I’m fine with holding on and riding it out.
It’s not like Fedotov is ever going to play in Philly after the Russians charged him, jailed him, and hid him away in the frozen tundra. He’s Red Army for life now. Sticking it out with Hart is a perfectly fine option for them. - Hesh_
Is it, though? Because Briere looks to be doing what should've been done a while ago, and is going full scorched Earth. Trading the goalie, who does have value (but is still a goalie), seems like it should be one of the first steps taken.
Everything would be pointless if you kept the goalie around and don't commit fully to the tank.
Harts a good goalie and all but he's also had some noticeable downs in his short career so far, even when Philly wasn't one of the worst teams in the league. Will he be better on a better team? Most probably, yes. But that's not a sure thing with him. |
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GreatGigInTheSky
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Location: "Yeah, Garth is a tool"- Garf, ON Joined: 06.12.2017
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What’s this about then?…I feel like I’m missing a post here - Big23Questions
Random Sens fan on the twitter Dm'd DeBrincat with that message. |
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Zezel
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: The Name Of The Game Is Hockey, ON Joined: 02.28.2011
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What's worse? Actually DM'ing a player this nonsense or thinking the 21st place team in the league is a playoff team?  - GreatGigInTheSky
Both things are deeply concerning. |
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dmnted
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Space for Rent Joined: 08.30.2006
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Fire Up A Dubas ! - MaximusAurelius
it's 420 somewhere eh!!!
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Adam French
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Location: Isn't Cooley 5"11? You know who else is 5"11? Sydney Crosby. - Scabeh Joined: 04.06.2011
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Fire Dubas ! - MaximusAurelius
A bit soon for that, |
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Monkeypunk
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Location: Whenever, wherever, ON Joined: 06.27.2013
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Fire Dubas ! - MaximusAurelius
Wrong thread.
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dmnted
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Location: Space for Rent Joined: 08.30.2006
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Wrong thread. - Monkeypunk
he meant to say fire Keefe! |
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Monkeypunk
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Location: Whenever, wherever, ON Joined: 06.27.2013
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Is it, though? Because Briere looks to be doing what should've been done a while ago, and is going full scorched Earth. Trading the goalie, who does have value (but is still a goalie), seems like it should be one of the first steps taken.
Everything would be pointless if you kept the goalie around and don't commit fully to the tank.
Harts a good goalie and all but he's also had some noticeable downs in his short career so far, even when Philly wasn't one of the worst teams in the league. Will he be better on a better team? Most probably, yes. But that's not a sure thing with him. - GreatGigInTheSky
I posted something yesterday looked at individual game performances by goalies - basically how often does a goalie "steal" a game. In that initial focus I used complete games where the goalie had a GSAx > 2, but decided to recalibrate that look solely at 5v5 play and striate into +4, +3, +2, but also the crap the bed side: -2, -3, and -4 GSAx games. Now most goalies fit in the -2 to +2 range, so these other games are really the outliers and are designed to give a sense of how often the goalie directly contributes to a win or a loss themselves.
This past season was Hart's 5th in the league.
Hart 2018: He was +2 or better twice, and -2 or worse five times
Hart 2019: He was +2 or better twice, -3 or worse twice and -2 or worse five times.
Hart 2020: He was -3 or worse once and -2 or worse four times.
Hart 2021: He was +2 or better twice, -3 or worse twice and -2 or worse three times.
Hart 2022: He was +3 or better once, +2 or better five times and -2 or worse 4 times.
. . .and it was the first time he started to steal more games than he "gave away". His overall lack of consistency is what hurts him. Being +3 in a game happens in less than 1% of the games played; being -3 happens about 1.8% of the time (I don't have enough data to draw a satisfactory conclusion, but I'd suppose that it's because offense is momentum-based whereas defense isn't (i.e., when teams smell blood in the water, they swarm)).
Ultimately to me Hart is a capable goalie who isn't worth the risk for a playoff team until he develops more consistency.
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Random Sens fan on the twitter Dm'd DeBrincat with that message.  - GreatGigInTheSky
Ahh ok. Ya I’ve met all 20 of them - weird dudes sens fanbase |
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Tee-Dot
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: For being Stee's alternate personality or being associated with M. Night Shyamalan? Joined: 12.11.2008
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Welp... starting to get day drunk. Now where the (frank) is joel?? |
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drexel
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Location: Corn Pop was a bad dude, AB Joined: 06.29.2006
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Welp... starting to get day drunk. Now where the (frank) is joel??  - Tee-Dot
waiting for Santo |
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Tee-Dot
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Location: For being Stee's alternate personality or being associated with M. Night Shyamalan? Joined: 12.11.2008
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waiting for Santo - drexel
Yeah, caught the tail end of that. The whole last word. Love it. |
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Santo_44
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Joined: 10.20.2014
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waiting for Santo - drexel
restraining order is completed.
That won't stop him from obsessing over my posts sadly
The haziness we are seeing is the steam coming from Joels ears, not the fires |
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Zezel
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Location: The Name Of The Game Is Hockey, ON Joined: 02.28.2011
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Welp... starting to get day drunk. Now where the (frank) is joel??  - Tee-Dot
If he went into those woods you can forget about him.
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Adam French
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Location: Isn't Cooley 5"11? You know who else is 5"11? Sydney Crosby. - Scabeh Joined: 04.06.2011
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Welp... starting to get day drunk. Now where the (frank) is joel??  - Tee-Dot
Finally you're making sense. |
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Tee-Dot
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Location: For being Stee's alternate personality or being associated with M. Night Shyamalan? Joined: 12.11.2008
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restraining order is completed.
That won't stop him from obsessing over my posts sadly  - Santo_44
Funny thing is he thinks I obsess over his which have nothing to do with hockey. He just got upset one day because I was being Stee and jovial about WWF/WWE and he felt the need to get up from his mahogany-laden study and condescend on how to run my life.
Guy can't take a joke. Like my mom said... if you let them get to ya. I personally have no problem with the guy. Seems smart and harmless but if he wants to have a battle of wits then I'll keep firing. |
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Zezel
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Location: The Name Of The Game Is Hockey, ON Joined: 02.28.2011
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Lol always the same guys having drama |
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Dozzer
Referee Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Somewhere over the rainbow since I’m way up high Joined: 09.15.2010
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Lol always the same guys having drama - Zezel
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Fakepartofme
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Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON Joined: 09.20.2010
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Zezel
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: The Name Of The Game Is Hockey, ON Joined: 02.28.2011
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 - Dozzer
Lol that's a good one |
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Tee-Dot
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Location: For being Stee's alternate personality or being associated with M. Night Shyamalan? Joined: 12.11.2008
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Lol always the same guys having drama - Zezel
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Fakepartofme
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Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON Joined: 09.20.2010
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Ottawa traded away a top 8 pick in the draft along with a 2nd a 3rd for brainycat
Im not they get a top 10 pick back in their upcoming trade
We'll see |
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drexel
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Location: Corn Pop was a bad dude, AB Joined: 06.29.2006
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Here we go again - Fakepartofme
I regret nothing |
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shack67
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Location: NS Joined: 07.05.2015
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