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burgh4life87
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 04.22.2014

Jun 7 @ 6:04 PM ET
So Gavrikov got 5.875 per and Andreas Athanasiou gets 4.25 per. Seems high for both.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jun 7 @ 6:13 PM ET
I think this is in your eyes haha...I've seen plenty of mention of both of their bad plays or general bad play, and what not, when its been happening in RW's blogs. He pointed out this past season that Tanger wasnt where he usually is with both the underlying and raw production stats numerous times.
- MattStrat


Sure Malkin didn't backcheck at all on those 2 goals against he was out for, but oh my God he shot the puck and scored and OMG. When he skates and shoots, like...oh man it's so amazing

Her's my "100 best player of all time" Jonathan Toews update
Brownsoldier
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Altoona
Joined: 06.30.2015

Jun 7 @ 6:41 PM ET
Sure Malkin didn't backcheck at all on those 2 goals against he was out for, but oh my God he shot the puck and scored and OMG. When he skates and shoots, like...oh man it's so amazing

Her's my "100 best player of all time" Jonathan Toews update

- jmatchett383


I’m not a +\- guy but a -31 in 53 games doesn’t scream amazing. Also 37 points in 71 games year before is higher end 3rd line stuff.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jun 7 @ 8:00 PM ET
I’m not a +\- guy but a -31 in 53 games doesn’t scream amazing. Also 37 points in 71 games year before is higher end 3rd line stuff.
- Brownsoldier


I'm guessing you weren't around when the NHL released their arbitrary "100 Greatest Players" list
burgh4life87
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 04.22.2014

Jun 7 @ 8:28 PM ET
I'm guessing you weren't around when the NHL released their arbitrary "100 Greatest Players" list
- jmatchett383

I usually don't pay attention to fake rankings, but that list made me so mad. It was so pro Canada.
MacPatty
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 05.21.2015

Jun 7 @ 8:48 PM ET
I’m not a +\- guy but a -31 in 53 games doesn’t scream amazing. Also 37 points in 71 games year before is higher end 3rd line stuff.
- Brownsoldier


AA is not a good player but he is fast and Chicago has to fill out a roster somehow. They would have been better off taking Granlund and a couple picks from us.
123Kid
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: PA
Joined: 07.03.2017

Jun 7 @ 9:01 PM ET
One player I really wanted them to target this offseason was Barbashev, but I have a feeling this playoffs is about to get him overpaid.
- j.boyd919


I did as well. I was hoping him and Acciari could be our 3rd liners. They were my top 2 realistic targets. I wonder if we are going to target Bunting as Zucker's replacement
i'mjustafan
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: United States, PA
Joined: 05.15.2007

Jun 7 @ 10:41 PM ET
Can you imagine what he could have done with that Granlund and carter $$?
i'mjustafan
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: United States, PA
Joined: 05.15.2007

Jun 7 @ 10:42 PM ET
I am interested in how he addresses the goalie situation
Brownsoldier
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Altoona
Joined: 06.30.2015

Jun 8 @ 12:29 AM ET
I'm guessing you weren't around when the NHL released their arbitrary "100 Greatest Players" list
- jmatchett383

Yeah I was. I guess I misunderstood your comment. Sorry, lol.
Thunderbolt
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Wampum, PA
Joined: 01.20.2014

Jun 8 @ 5:09 AM ET
I did as well. I was hoping him and Acciari could be our 3rd liners. They were my top 2 realistic targets. I wonder if we are going to target Bunting as Zucker's replacement
- 123Kid


Barbashev has been nothing short of fantastic in the playoffs. I was listening to Mike Rupp yesterday and he claims Barbashev will be the number one UFA targeted tis off season.

Of course, he's been saddled with Jack Eichel and Jonathon Marchessault, so that may have something to do with it. Either way, I would have higher expectations for him than a third liner.
Grinder47
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somerset, PA
Joined: 10.20.2013

Jun 8 @ 5:24 AM ET
The biggest problem with Petry is that he is not as good as Matheson but costs almost $1.5M per year more. Viewed apart from the trade that brought him here he seems to be an average defenseman although definitely overpaid.

Hextall's excuse for making that trade was that he is supposedly good at protecting goalies. Maybe he thought "I can't upgrade in net but maybe I will upgrade the goalie's protection". I don't know - I am just guessing on that. If Petry can actually do this better next season then perhaps the trade will not look quite as bad (although it will never be justified).

I am hoping to see Carter gain much familiarity with the press box next season.

- PghPens668771

You would rather see Carter in the press box while counting 3 mil against the cap than creating a scenario where he provides secondary scoring whilst being sheltered 5-5?
MattStrat
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: ...serial abuser...and misuser...of the ellipsis , NF
Joined: 12.12.2014

Jun 8 @ 7:15 AM ET
You would rather see Carter in the press box while counting 3 mil against the cap than creating a scenario where he provides secondary scoring whilst being sheltered 5-5?
- Grinder47


Most that realize he harms the team much more than benefits it when on the ice would rather this.
MattStrat
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: ...serial abuser...and misuser...of the ellipsis , NF
Joined: 12.12.2014

Jun 8 @ 7:16 AM ET
Sure Malkin didn't backcheck at all on those 2 goals against he was out for, but oh my God he shot the puck and scored and OMG. When he skates and shoots, like...oh man it's so amazing

Her's my "100 best player of all time" Jonathan Toews update

- jmatchett383



Yeah....you're projecting a bit here....

You think Toews is a better player than Malkin?
Grinder47
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somerset, PA
Joined: 10.20.2013

Jun 8 @ 8:17 AM ET
Most that realize he harms the team much more than benefits it when on the ice would rather this.
- MattStrat

Nah. Pens to resign Poehling to center the fourth line and sign a guy with size and speed to play with he and Carter. Run a 2-3 forecheck on that line, with Carter the high man who can easily slide into the slot during the cycle. Then play Carter on the 1PP, sorry Jake. Carter plays true net front giving Sod, Malkin and Letang less options to play tiddly winks with leading to more pucks to the net. You get 20 goals from 3 mil cap hit instead of nothing.
MattStrat
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: ...serial abuser...and misuser...of the ellipsis , NF
Joined: 12.12.2014

Jun 8 @ 8:24 AM ET
Nah. Pens to resign Poehling to center the fourth line and sign a guy with size and speed to play with he and Carter. Run a 2-3 forecheck on that line, with Carter the high man who can easily slide into the slot during the cycle. Then play Carter on the 1PP, sorry Jake. Carter plays true net front giving Sod, Malkin and Letang less options to play tiddly winks with leading to more pucks to the net. You get 20 goals from 3 mil cap hit instead of nothing.
- Grinder47


I kind of agree with some of this, especially the Poehling part. I'm not against trying Carter there if he MUST be in the lineup. I could actually see him being decent net front. You do need really good quick hands there though and his have been kinda stoney the past year and a half. Again, if he MUST be in the lineup, which I feel Sully will think so, why not try him in some different situations to see if anything can be squeezed out of him.
Grinder47
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somerset, PA
Joined: 10.20.2013

Jun 8 @ 8:25 AM ET
Yeah....you're projecting a bit here....

You think Toews is a better player than Malkin?

- MattStrat

How is this still a topic?
Grinder47
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somerset, PA
Joined: 10.20.2013

Jun 8 @ 8:28 AM ET
I kind of agree with some of this, especially the Poehling part. I'm not against trying Carter there if he MUST be in the lineup. I could actually see him being decent net front. You do need really good quick hands there though and his have been kinda stoney the past year and a half. Again, if he MUST be in the lineup, which I feel Sully will think so, why not try him in some different situations to see if anything can be squeezed out of him.
- MattStrat

Sully is the problem. Dudes a hack who got lucky with lineups. I’d take a flap disc to his name on the cup if I could.
Brownsoldier
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Altoona
Joined: 06.30.2015

Jun 8 @ 8:35 AM ET
Yeah....you're projecting a bit here....

You think Toews is a better player than Malkin?

- MattStrat

I too, was grappling with this comment. It can’t be difficult to tell if someone is joking via text.
Brownsoldier
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Altoona
Joined: 06.30.2015

Jun 8 @ 8:36 AM ET
Sully is the problem. Dudes a hack who got lucky with lineups. I’d take a flap disc to his name on the cup if I could.
- Grinder47

Pretty dramatic this morning, eh?
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Jun 8 @ 8:43 AM ET
How is this still a topic?
- Grinder47

Because the resident flyers clown is a hypocrite and an idiot.
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Jun 8 @ 8:44 AM ET
Sully is the problem. Dudes a hack who got lucky with lineups. I’d take a flap disc to his name on the cup if I could.
- Grinder47

Someone had some salty ass eggs for breakfast
sammy87
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: CO
Joined: 05.05.2011

Jun 8 @ 8:52 AM ET
I think Carter as a 4th RW is a fine option vs adding pieces to sell him off. he cant hold down a C role any longer but I think he can put up 10G+in that role.

Dumping Granlund, adding a top 6, better 3rd line and a top 4 and #1G is a tall order.
Grinder47
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somerset, PA
Joined: 10.20.2013

Jun 8 @ 9:21 AM ET
Someone had some salty ass eggs for breakfast
- Feds91Stammer

I disliked him when his bullpoop Disney stuff worked.
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Jun 8 @ 9:25 AM ET
I disliked him when his bullpoop Disney stuff worked.
- Grinder47

Based on your posts I would have never guessed you didn’t like him.
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