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joel878
Joined: 06.13.2009

Jun 6 @ 3:08 PM ET
If Leafs want Konecny I think it’s Lilybust, 1st and mid tier prospect like Hirvonen
- Santo_44


So what amounts to be basically two 1st rounders and a 2nd. Yeah you bet.

So you ever wonder why no one takes you seriously 🤣
senstroll
Location: Leafs AAV Champs, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Jun 6 @ 3:09 PM ET
If Leafs want Konecny I think it’s Lilybust, 1st and mid tier prospect like Hirvonen
- Santo_44


whoa, wonder what the leafs could get for Nylander
Canada Cup
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: This world is just a veil and the face you wear is not your own., ON
Joined: 07.06.2007

Jun 6 @ 3:10 PM ET
I agree that it's an academic exercise. Karlsson's 5v5 +/- was even; Rielly's was +1. Both aren't bringing a ton there.
- Monkeypunk

Rielly was +11 in the playoffs when he was healthy
Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.20.2014

Jun 6 @ 3:10 PM ET
So what amounts to be basically two 1st rounders and a 2nd. Yeah you bet.

So you ever wonder why no one takes you seriously 🤣

- joel878

Yeah he will be an expensive player.

Your obsessive nature towards me is getting to be that troll Nucks player level, starting to get a bit creeped out over here

Take your advice that you gave the Nucks poster and find something better to obsess over.
Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.20.2014

Jun 6 @ 3:11 PM ET
whoa, wonder what the leafs could get for Nylander
- senstroll

Probably similar or higher.

What do PPG players go for? Ones that are signed 5.5M for 2 years?
Monkeypunk
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Whenever, wherever, ON
Joined: 06.27.2013

Jun 6 @ 3:13 PM ET
Can talk about how bad SJ was to give up so many goals, but Karlsson was a massive reason for it.
- GreatGigInTheSky


Huh.

I think we all agree that Toronto plays better team defense than San Jose. Toronto was 7th in goals against and San Jose was 30th. Toronto was 6th in fewest Shots Allowed; San Jose was 23rd. Toronto was 11th in fewest HD Chances Against and San Jose was 20th.

Erik Karlsson played 42% of his team's 5v5 minutes. He had an expected goals against of 2.78.

Morgan Rielly played in 34% of his team's 5v5 minutes when he wasn't injured. He had an expected goals against of 2.8.

So if San Jose is so much worse, why are Rielly's defensive numbers worse?
Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens
Location: The Slovakian Jagr, QC
Joined: 02.25.2007

Jun 6 @ 3:13 PM ET
Philly looking to trade their young stud goaltender to see him flourish elsewhere.

We've all seen that movie before.
Dozzer
Referee
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Somewhere over the rainbow since I’m way up high
Joined: 09.15.2010

Jun 6 @ 3:14 PM ET
Im going to agree with you here. Karlsson is consistently far worse than Rielly defensively. 101 points and - 26. Loool 🤣

People are bragging up the offense but seem to forget that before this year his last 4 seasons he scored 35, 22, 40 and 45 points... And couldn't play more than 60 games in any of them.

He literally scored more this year than he did the last 3 seasons combined.

11.5 million. Keep him far the (frank) away from Toronto.

- joel878


Yes and thanks for sharing the additional stats. He’s pure offence, no D strength at all, and he’s up and down production wise. Even if SJ did move him it would be for picks and prospects as well, not someone like Rielly.
joel878
Joined: 06.13.2009

Jun 6 @ 3:14 PM ET
I wanted the Leafs to draft him when it was his draft year.
- dmnted


I did too. We took Korshkov 🤮
Monkeypunk
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Whenever, wherever, ON
Joined: 06.27.2013

Jun 6 @ 3:15 PM ET
Rielly was +11 in the playoffs when he was healthy
- Canada Cup


Karlsson wasn't even on for a goal against!

I'm not the only one here who remembers the rest of the year, right? Does 12 playoff games make you forget about the other 65 games he played? Or how good the team in the 17 games that he was injured?

Anyway, my point here isn't that the trade should occur because it won't.

My point is simply that Karlsson is vastly superior to Rielly at what they both do.
joel878
Joined: 06.13.2009

Jun 6 @ 3:15 PM ET
Yeah he will be an expensive player.

Your obsessive nature towards me is getting to be that troll Nucks player level, starting to get a bit creeped out over here

Take your advice that you gave the Nucks poster and find something better to obsess over.

- Santo_44


Oh no obsession friend, it's just you say a lot of dumb poop that is tough to just pass over.

I think you'll find if you say far less dumb poop you'll get far less attention. But less attention clearly isn't what you're after, so not sure it can work out. 🤷
senstroll
Location: Leafs AAV Champs, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Jun 6 @ 3:16 PM ET
I did too. We took Korshkov 🤮
- joel878


was 2015
took Dermott and some other wasted pick
GreatGigInTheSky
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: "Yeah, Garth is a tool"- Garf, ON
Joined: 06.12.2017

Jun 6 @ 3:16 PM ET
I think out of all the D Liljregren is the most likely to get traded.

If they bring in a good player via trade.

- Santo_44


Would be really stupid. Hope Treliving isn't that dumb.
Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.20.2014

Jun 6 @ 3:16 PM ET
Karlsson wasn't even on for a goal against!

I'm not the only one here who remembers the rest of the year, right? Does 12 playoff games make you forget about the other 65 games he played? Or how good the team in the 17 games that he was injured?

Anyway, my point here isn't that the trade should occur because it won't.

My point is simply that Karlsson is vastly superior to Rielly at what they both do.

- Monkeypunk


I think people struggle to change their mindset on a player.

Karlsson had a 101 point season and refuse to see how valuable he is for it. Dude was healthy for the first time in a while.
Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.20.2014

Jun 6 @ 3:17 PM ET
Would be really stupid. Hope Treliving isn't that dumb.
- GreatGigInTheSky

Has good value, have to give to get.
Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens
Location: The Slovakian Jagr, QC
Joined: 02.25.2007

Jun 6 @ 3:17 PM ET
was 2015
took Dermott and some other wasted pick

- senstroll


So many years of arguing with people in this thread that he was a fringe NHL player at best.

Good times.
Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.20.2014

Jun 6 @ 3:17 PM ET
Oh no obsession friend, it's just you say a lot of dumb poop that is tough to just pass over.

I think you'll find if you say far less dumb poop you'll get far less attention. But less attention clearly isn't what you're after, so not sure it can work out. 🤷

- joel878

Just stop being creepy and obsessive over me.

Find something else. Or just move the (frank) on.
GreatGigInTheSky
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: "Yeah, Garth is a tool"- Garf, ON
Joined: 06.12.2017

Jun 6 @ 3:18 PM ET
Anthony Di Marco
@ADiMarco25
·
1h
Hearing that the #Flyers are working on a deal involving Carter Hart.

#fueledbyphilly

_______________________

Don't know who this guy is but it would be crazy if Briere just decided to Nuke team.
GreatGigInTheSky
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: "Yeah, Garth is a tool"- Garf, ON
Joined: 06.12.2017

Jun 6 @ 3:18 PM ET
no bonus
- dmnted


Unfortunate
joel878
Joined: 06.13.2009

Jun 6 @ 3:18 PM ET
was 2015
took Dermott and some other wasted pick

- senstroll


2016. We took Korshkov #31, Philly took Hart #48.

Get em Hunter.
GreatGigInTheSky
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: "Yeah, Garth is a tool"- Garf, ON
Joined: 06.12.2017

Jun 6 @ 3:18 PM ET
Carter Hart moving too according to some guys
- Canada Cup


Guess I should've just read ahead.
Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.20.2014

Jun 6 @ 3:19 PM ET
Anthony Di Marco
@ADiMarco25
·
1h
Hearing that the #Flyers are working on a deal involving Carter Hart.

#fueledbyphilly

_______________________

Don't know who this guy is but it would be crazy if Briere just decided to Nuke team.

- GreatGigInTheSky

Serevalli said this morning he hears they are going scorched earth this season.

Smart thing to do...Do a legit rebuild.

Signing Sanheim and Risto long term was (frank)ing stupid...Could have gotten multiple picks for them.
GreatGigInTheSky
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: "Yeah, Garth is a tool"- Garf, ON
Joined: 06.12.2017

Jun 6 @ 3:19 PM ET
The smoke from the forest fires is kinda crazy outside right now. Smells great though…like mesquite.
- Woderwick


I liked it for like, a few minutes. But now it's just annoying.
joel878
Joined: 06.13.2009

Jun 6 @ 3:20 PM ET
Just stop being creepy and obsessive over me.

Find something else. Or just move the (frank) on.

- Santo_44


It's only creepy if you let it be.

You wish someone would obsess over you, it would be an attention seekers dream. (frank)ing peckerhead. 😂😂😂
Dozzer
Referee
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Somewhere over the rainbow since I’m way up high
Joined: 09.15.2010

Jun 6 @ 3:20 PM ET
Karlsson wasn't even on for a goal against!

I'm not the only one here who remembers the rest of the year, right? Does 12 playoff games make you forget about the other 65 games he played? Or how good the team in the 17 games that he was injured?

Anyway, my point here isn't that the trade should occur because it won't.

My point is simply that Karlsson is vastly superior to Rielly at what they both do.

- Monkeypunk


And I noticed you disregarded he had 16P in 20GP before he got hurt.

Rielly had an off season due to an injury and you’re trying to compare it to Karlsson’s hot season. Rielly finally found his game in the post season, that’s what we will be seeing next year and no, Karlsson is not worth $4 million more than that.
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