Its all about the motion of the ocean....not the size of the ship.
Hope your ride went well.
- Fakepartofme

great for him👊

less so for mrs. z🤦🏿‍♂️

Lmfaooooooooo 🤣

Michael Gallagher
@MGsports_
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I can confirm the #Preds and Kings did discuss a deal for Juuse Saros. Details coming soon on
@nshhockeynow

Michael Gallagher
@MGsports_
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2m
I can confirm the #Preds and Kings did discuss a deal for Juuse Saros. Details coming soon on
@nshhockeynow
- Symba007

I'd take Saros over Hellebuyck, that's for sure.

Its all about the motion of the ocean....not the size of the ship.
Hope your ride went well.
- Fakepartofme

Thanks man! Yeah, it was great. Everyone I talk to concurs that the riding on the Gardiner and DVP is an all-time highlight. Highly recommended.

Thanks man! Yeah, it was great. Everyone I talk to concurs that the riding on the Gardiner and DVP is an all-time highlight. Highly recommended.
- Zezel

Good to hear.
Im more of a off road biker myself, but i jave heard the dvp ride is nice.
Actually, there are trails under the dvp.

I feel like we dont have that hard accurate shot from the backend.
Along with size.
- Fakepartofme

Sounds like Ryan Graves

Jesus, this is so bad.
- joel878

Yeah. If you take Nylander out of the deal, it still looks bad.

It always feels like a conspiracy. I suppose it could be. When I step back and look at playoff hockey objectively I have to first think of the human factor.

(a) if there was a conspiracy then any retired, fired or worse - disgraced - former official becomes a potential leak for these conspiracies and yet there have never been any. Even after they did a thorough investigation into the Dean Warren firing after he fought it in court.

(b) humans have an innate sense of fairness; often to the point of feeling bad for the losing side or feeling like perhaps you're picking on someone directly.

The best citation I have for this starts in 1917-18 with Clint Benedict, a goalie for the Senators. Back then goalies couldn't leave their feet to make a save - but Benedict would. He'd "fall", or "slip", or "lose an edge" and would often get called for it, but more and more and more the officials would just let it go because Clint had already received a couple of penalties already in the game - and back then goalies also served their own penalties leaving the net empty! The refs' blind eye towards this behaviour was so egregious that they changed the rule just three weeks into the 1917-18 NHL season.


The NHL playoffs aren't just a time when the officials make things worse - the players do. In fact more penalties are generally called in the playoffs than during the regular season, but the players are so amped up that the number of infractions is probably quadrupled and penalties only rise by a factor of about 1.5 (if I recall the numbers correctly).

The other factor in consideration is that a 7 game playoff series is so encapsulated that one poorly officiated game has the potential to swing the outcome of the series so it can feel way worse.


That all said the way penalties are observed (and not observed) these days and the sheer number of infractions committed means that an NHL official is picking and choosing which of the numerous infractions they witness are going to be penalties. They are controlling the momentum of a game and have both a direct and indirect hand in the outcome of the game.

The solution is to call everything until the players get the message. People will moan, female dog and whine that it's not playoff hockey and that the toughness is being taken out of the game. Those people should be handed a rulebook and simply asked to show where in the rulebook it says that the book is void in the playoffs - because is the only sport in the world where the rules for the game cease to apply in the playoffs.
- Monkeypunk

The last paragraph is bang on.
Too bad the NHL seems to have no interest in changing the fact that the playoffs are a joke.

It’s going to take a lot more than that to get me to think
- Canada Cup

Why start thinking now? You have made it this far I don’t see why you should start. 😆😆😆

$5.875M for Gavrikov is exactly why I didn't want the Leafs to get him.

Crazy money to be giving a 3rd pairing guy.

Why start thinking now? You have made it this far I don’t see why you should start. 😆😆😆
- optimus-reim

So close, so very close. Keep on plugging champ.

$5.875M for Gavrikov is exactly why I didn't want the Leafs to get him.

Crazy money to be giving a 3rd pairing guy.
- GreatGigInTheSky

2 year deal too

2 year deal too
- .HOHO.

Elliotte Friedman
@FriedgeHNIC
$10.2M in signing bonus and full NMC. Oops

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Didn't think it was possible, but it got worse.

Offence from the blueline is a gaping hole for the Leafs.

There’s zero threat. Unless we want to let Gustavsson to do his thing. Preferably they should go for a big, lumbering Dman with offensive upside, but there aren’t any available.
- Arctic_AARDVARK

Ahhh I guess 4th overall in the league sucks

https://www.statmuse.com/...en+points+by+team+2022-23

$5.875M for Gavrikov is exactly why I didn't want the Leafs to get him.

Crazy money to be giving a 3rd pairing guy.
- GreatGigInTheSky

To be fair his play in LA deserves it, 40P a season pace while extremely strong defensively (his +/- went from minus eight in Columbus to plus 12 in LA for instance).

But he also only played 20 games for LA. So yup, a risky deal to hand him for sure.

To be fair his play in LA deserves it, 40P a season pace while extremely strong defensively (his +/- went from minus eight in Columbus to plus 12 in LA for instance).

But he also only played 20 games for LA. So yup, a risky deal to hand him for sure.
- Dozzer

Contextually both are right, I think. If you look at his small sample size in LA, Gavrikov actually played like a $5m defenseman. In the playoffs his defensive pairing (with Matt Roy) faced McDavid and Draisaitl more than anyone at 5v5, and he was +2 against Draisaitl and +3 against McDavid. He's only just turned 27, so the 2 year duration of the deal would basically eat up his two principal primary years (assuming that like most players years 27 & 28 are their athletic prime years; some are obviously different).

LA could actually be getting a value deal here; that term is nice - the risk is there in that prior to this deal he was probably a lower end second pairing guy in Columbus (with Peeke) and not faring too well, but given LA's upward trajectory and support system around him, I think he works for them.

Contextually both are right, I think. If you look at his small sample size in LA, Gavrikov actually played like a $5m defenseman. In the playoffs his defensive pairing (with Matt Roy) faced McDavid and Draisaitl more than anyone at 5v5, and he was +2 against Draisaitl and +3 against McDavid. He's only just turned 27, so the 2 year duration of the deal would basically eat up his two principal primary years (assuming that like most players years 27 & 28 are their athletic prime years; some are obviously different).

LA could actually be getting a value deal here; that term is nice - the risk is there in that prior to this deal he was probably a lower end second pairing guy in Columbus (with Peeke) and not faring too well, but given LA's upward trajectory and support system around him, I think he works for them.
- Monkeypunk

That’s kind of how I see it as well but I can also see him being a little more…. Less amped up when he’s not just post trade and closing in on the playoffs all of a sudden. That’s nothing more than a “perhaps” concern though.

I think you’re right tho, guessing he will be a defensively strong 35-40P guy on his new team. Obviously the kings management thinks the same but it only being a 2 year deal is a nice safety net as well. If he doesn’t pan out it will suck but won’t last forever either.

The leafs are at 10/1 odds of winning the cup next year. Only Boston and Colorado ahead of them.

$5.875M for Gavrikov is exactly why I didn't want the Leafs to get him.

Crazy money to be giving a 3rd pairing guy.
- GreatGigInTheSky

Holl gonna get paid!

The leafs are at 10/1 odds of winning the cup next year. Only Boston and Colorado ahead of them.
- shack67

what were they this year?

what were they this year?
- drexel

i got the knights at 10/1 for this year👊

I’m fittin’ to collect my $300 then retire👊🏿

laffs were something like 3/1 and i had them too🤦‍♂️

Holl gonna get paid!
- drexel

I’m willing to bet Holl will land the $3 million his agent was suggesting with this years UFA list.

Length of contract is my main question.

No to any new goaltenders coming in. Play the Leafs goalie of the future and Samsonov. Why overpay for goaltending that's on the downside of their careers? Hellybuck has already plateaued and the cap hit is too much. Just shore up the defense, trade Willy to get what you need. Dip into free agency for a top 6 winger. Leafs are in need of sandpaper and if you can get AM34 back into the fold, the team will still be a contender. Also, axe Keefe. Sign Accari and Schenn for sure!

what were they this year?
- drexel

No idea.

No to any new goaltenders coming in. Play the Leafs goalie of the future and Samsonov. Why overpay for goaltending that's on the downside of their careers? Hellybuck has already plateaued and the cap hit is too much. Just shore up the defense, trade Willy to get what you need. Dip into free agency for a top 6 winger. Leafs are in need of sandpaper and if you can get AM34 back into the fold, the team will still be a contender. Also, axe Keefe. Sign Accari and Schenn for sure!
- PrinceLH

I agree on the goalies. Those veteran goalies are so flaky that you really don’t know what to expect.