At least we wouldn’t be paying Murray 4.7mil to lay in a hospital bed.

Trade Brodie for picks.

Leafs have space.
- Arctic_AARDVARK

Leafs would have about 23 million left to roster 16 more players so your idea is absolutely (frank)ing ridiculous.

That’s reigning Norris winner Karlsson.
- Arctic_AARDVARK

The leafs don’t need more offence from the back end.

Altho tbh even tho I prefer Rielly (due to his cost) if they moved him fine, I’m not against Karlsson

The leafs don’t need more offence from the back end.

Altho tbh even tho I prefer Rielly (due to his cost) if they moved him fine, I’m not against Karlsson
- Dozzer

Offence from the blueline is a gaping hole for the Leafs.

There’s zero threat. Unless we want to let Gustavsson to do his thing. Preferably they should go for a big, lumbering Dman with offensive upside, but there aren’t any available.

Nylander, Jarnkrok, Murray, Knies, prospect for Karlsson and Hertl.
- Arctic_AARDVARK

Jesus, this is so bad.

Jesus, this is so bad.
- joel878

Karlsson, Hertl, JT, Mitch, Auston and Reilly = 60 million in cap


The 6 for 60 in the 6.

But hey we could pay the other 16 on the roster an average 1.5 million each. Just gotta dump Brodie.

Matthews and Murray to Arizona for Keller, Guenther and Vejmelka.

Nylander for a D.

Sign someone like Dumba.

Back end Id hope Francis locks up Dunn and keeps Borgen who is rfa, which means could nab ufa Soucy. Would be a decent add on the back end. Grab Schenn re-signed to alternate as 6/7 with Gio. Trade Brodie then.

Reilly - McCabe
Soucy - Lillybust
Gio/Schenn - Timmins

From the tweeter

"In a recent study, the #Leafs are the No. 1 most-viewed NHL team on TikTok, Not surprising. But of the 'Big 4' Sports (NFL, NBA, MLB and NHL), #Leafs are 62nd. Ranking that low says more about the NHL falling behind in marketing to younger fans. "
- Fakepartofme

This is an important fact. Nothing says more about the NHL assisting Vegas to winning a cup than this fact. Vegas is a city on the verge of getting involved in the NFL and MLB and having a winning NHL franchise is huge for US marketing for them. It was important enough for the league to bend the expansion draft rules more than any other time in history to make them competitive from the get go. For conspiracy theorists, the Crosby draft to save a bankrupt franchise pales in comparison.

Back end Id hope Francis locks up Dunn and keeps Borgen who is rfa, which means could nab ufa Soucy. Would be a decent add on the back end. Grab Schenn re-signed to alternate as 6/7 with Gio. Trade Brodie then.

Reilly - McCabe
Soucy - Lillybust
Gio/Schenn - Timmins
- Roadrunner75

Seattle didn't love Soucy beyond 3rd pair ...I think we can do better.

Seattle didn't love Soucy beyond 3rd pair ...I think we can do better.
- The Law

Agree

Offence from the blueline is a gaping hole for the Leafs.

There’s zero threat. Unless we want to let Gustavsson to do his thing. Preferably they should go for a big, lumbering Dman with offensive upside, but there aren’t any available.
- Arctic_AARDVARK

We had offensive/puck-mover options in Gustafsson and Timmins but Keefe played the heavier/vets instead.

Leafs currently have 7 FW signed:
Matthews
Nylander
Marner
Tavares
Jarnkrok
Knies
Lafferty

Robertson is RFA = 8 FW

So we need 4-5 more…
McMann (UFA), Steeves, Abruzzese, Holmberg,
Likely 2 from this group

UFA:
Acciari ✔️
Kampf🤷
ROR
Bunting
(ZAR, Simmonds, Kerfoot likely gone)

So, maybe 1-2 other UFA FW
(Domi, Bertuzzi, Wood, Barbashev💰, Hathaway, Motte, Heinen, Carcone, Reaves)

This is an important fact. Nothing says more about the NHL assisting Vegas to winning a cup than this fact. Vegas is a city on the verge of getting involved in the NFL and MLB and having a winning NHL franchise is huge for US marketing for them. It was important enough for the league to bend the expansion draft rules more than any other time in history to make them competitive from the get go. For conspiracy theorists, the Crosby draft to save a bankrupt franchise pales in comparison.
- winsix

It always feels like a conspiracy. I suppose it could be. When I step back and look at playoff hockey objectively I have to first think of the human factor.

(a) if there was a conspiracy then any retired, fired or worse - disgraced - former official becomes a potential leak for these conspiracies and yet there have never been any. Even after they did a thorough investigation into the Dean Warren firing after he fought it in court.

(b) humans have an innate sense of fairness; often to the point of feeling bad for the losing side or feeling like perhaps you're picking on someone directly.

The best citation I have for this starts in 1917-18 with Clint Benedict, a goalie for the Senators. Back then goalies couldn't leave their feet to make a save - but Benedict would. He'd "fall", or "slip", or "lose an edge" and would often get called for it, but more and more and more the officials would just let it go because Clint had already received a couple of penalties already in the game - and back then goalies also served their own penalties leaving the net empty! The refs' blind eye towards this behaviour was so egregious that they changed the rule just three weeks into the 1917-18 NHL season.


The NHL playoffs aren't just a time when the officials make things worse - the players do. In fact more penalties are generally called in the playoffs than during the regular season, but the players are so amped up that the number of infractions is probably quadrupled and penalties only rise by a factor of about 1.5 (if I recall the numbers correctly).

The other factor in consideration is that a 7 game playoff series is so encapsulated that one poorly officiated game has the potential to swing the outcome of the series so it can feel way worse.


That all said the way penalties are observed (and not observed) these days and the sheer number of infractions committed means that an NHL official is picking and choosing which of the numerous infractions they witness are going to be penalties. They are controlling the momentum of a game and have both a direct and indirect hand in the outcome of the game.

The solution is to call everything until the players get the message. People will moan, female dog and whine that it's not playoff hockey and that the toughness is being taken out of the game. Those people should be handed a rulebook and simply asked to show where in the rulebook it says that the book is void in the playoffs - because is the only sport in the world where the rules for the game cease to apply in the playoffs.

sux for Manoah, hope he can work out the issues
- senstroll

The leafs don’t need more offence from the back end.

Altho tbh even tho I prefer Rielly (due to his cost) if they moved him fine, I’m not against Karlsson
- Dozzer

I feel like we dont have that hard accurate shot from the backend.
Along with size.

Nylander, Jarnkrok, Murray, Knies, prospect for Karlsson and Hertl.
- Arctic_AARDVARK

No thank you.

It always feels like a conspiracy. I suppose it could be. When I step back and look at playoff hockey objectively I have to first think of the human factor.

(a) if there was a conspiracy then any retired, fired or worse - disgraced - former official becomes a potential leak for these conspiracies and yet there have never been any. Even after they did a thorough investigation into the Dean Warren firing after he fought it in court.

(b) humans have an innate sense of fairness; often to the point of feeling bad for the losing side or feeling like perhaps you're picking on someone directly.

The best citation I have for this starts in 1917-18 with Clint Benedict, a goalie for the Senators. Back then goalies couldn't leave their feet to make a save - but Benedict would. He'd "fall", or "slip", or "lose an edge" and would often get called for it, but more and more and more the officials would just let it go because Clint had already received a couple of penalties already in the game - and back then goalies also served their own penalties leaving the net empty! The refs' blind eye towards this behaviour was so egregious that they changed the rule just three weeks into the 1917-18 NHL season.


The NHL playoffs aren't just a time when the officials make things worse - the players do. In fact more penalties are generally called in the playoffs than during the regular season, but the players are so amped up that the number of infractions is probably quadrupled and penalties only rise by a factor of about 1.5 (if I recall the numbers correctly).

The other factor in consideration is that a 7 game playoff series is so encapsulated that one poorly officiated game has the potential to swing the outcome of the series so it can feel way worse.


That all said the way penalties are observed (and not observed) these days and the sheer number of infractions committed means that an NHL official is picking and choosing which of the numerous infractions they witness are going to be penalties. They are controlling the momentum of a game and have both a direct and indirect hand in the outcome of the game.

The solution is to call everything until the players get the message. People will moan, female dog and whine that it's not playoff hockey and that the toughness is being taken out of the game. Those people should be handed a rulebook and simply asked to show where in the rulebook it says that the book is void in the playoffs - because is the only sport in the world where the rules for the game cease to apply in the playoffs.
- Monkeypunk

I remember in the playoffs last year, when they started it was noticeably more strict than in the past. I also remember the guys on Overdrive began complaining incessantly that there were too many penalties and special teams. Which I never really understood because more powerplays means more goals, which I don't mind.

It always feels like a conspiracy. I suppose it could be. When I step back and look at playoff hockey objectively I have to first think of the human factor.

(a) if there was a conspiracy then any retired, fired or worse - disgraced - former official becomes a potential leak for these conspiracies and yet there have never been any. Even after they did a thorough investigation into the Dean Warren firing after he fought it in court.

(b) humans have an innate sense of fairness; often to the point of feeling bad for the losing side or feeling like perhaps you're picking on someone directly.

The best citation I have for this starts in 1917-18 with Clint Benedict, a goalie for the Senators. Back then goalies couldn't leave their feet to make a save - but Benedict would. He'd "fall", or "slip", or "lose an edge" and would often get called for it, but more and more and more the officials would just let it go because Clint had already received a couple of penalties already in the game - and back then goalies also served their own penalties leaving the net empty! The refs' blind eye towards this behaviour was so egregious that they changed the rule just three weeks into the 1917-18 NHL season.


The NHL playoffs aren't just a time when the officials make things worse - the players do. In fact more penalties are generally called in the playoffs than during the regular season, but the players are so amped up that the number of infractions is probably quadrupled and penalties only rise by a factor of about 1.5 (if I recall the numbers correctly).

The other factor in consideration is that a 7 game playoff series is so encapsulated that one poorly officiated game has the potential to swing the outcome of the series so it can feel way worse.


That all said the way penalties are observed (and not observed) these days and the sheer number of infractions committed means that an NHL official is picking and choosing which of the numerous infractions they witness are going to be penalties. They are controlling the momentum of a game and have both a direct and indirect hand in the outcome of the game.

The solution is to call everything until the players get the message. People will moan, female dog and whine that it's not playoff hockey and that the toughness is being taken out of the game. Those people should be handed a rulebook and simply asked to show where in the rulebook it says that the book is void in the playoffs - because is the only sport in the world where the rules for the game cease to apply in the playoffs.
- Monkeypunk

Holy (frank)in poop…. I’ll wait for the Coles notes

I feel like we dont have that hard accurate shot from the backend.
Along with size.
- Fakepartofme

I'll show you a hard accurate shot from the backend.


Not the size though

- AdamFrench

take Kirk with him

I remember in the playoffs last year, when they started it was noticeably more strict than in the past. I also remember the guys on Overdrive began complaining incessantly that there were too many penalties and special teams. Which I never really understood because more powerplays means more goals, which I don't mind.
- Zezel

Somebody went through the numbers. They call a lot more penalties in the first rounds, especially the first few games. They back off a lot as the playoffs proceed but there are still more overall than in the regular season.

I remember in the playoffs last year, when they started it was noticeably more strict than in the past. I also remember the guys on Overdrive began complaining incessantly that there were too many penalties and special teams. Which I never really understood because more powerplays means more goals, which I don't mind.
- Zezel

If the refs could do their jobs with the support of the series supervisors and the head of officiating without clapback, the players would get the message.

You can play hard mean physical hockey within the parameters of the rules as they are laid out. Games and emotions get out of control when the refs start letting dangerous plays escalate - or if a game feels particularly unfair due to advantages being granted by allowing too much to go "for both sides".

We've all seen that game where one team gets 4 power plays and the other team gets 3, but the team that got received 3 power plays committed about three times as many infractions (interference/hooking/holding) that granted them a larger advantage in play. There's an optical advantage to the team which received 4 power plays, but there is a clear advantage to the other team.

I'll show you a hard accurate shot from the backend.


Not the size though
- Zezel

Its all about the motion of the ocean....not the size of the ship.
Hope your ride went well.

Its all about the motion of the ocean....not the size of the ship.
Hope your ride went well.
- Fakepartofme

A seaman analogy. I love it.

I'll show you a hard accurate shot from the backend.


Not the size though
- Zezel

lmfaooooooooo 🤣