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THE EVIL WITHIN
Location: NJ
Joined: 11.20.2017

Jun 6 @ 4:45 PM ET
Not gonna lie, the last hockey player I’d have ever predicted would be involved a three-way with two other dudes is Ivan Provorov
- Symba007

😆 https://m.youtube.com/wat...=ygUKQmEgZHVtIHRzcw%3D%3D

Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ersson-Ville, NB, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Jun 6 @ 4:45 PM ET
Frank Seravalli's Top NHL Trade Targets:

3. Kevin Hayes – Center – Philadelphia Flyers – three more seasons, $7.14 million AAV.
13. Sean Walker – Right Defense – Los Angeles Kings – one more season, $2.65 million AAV.
18. Ivan Provorov – Left Defense – Philadelphia Flyers – two more seasons, $6.75 million AAV.
22. First Round Picks – Columbus (22nd Overall) and St. Louis (25th and 29th Overall).
25. Cal Petersen – Goaltender – Los Angeles Kings – two more seasons, $5 million AAV.

4 of them already off the board in one trade...let's hope #3 happens before draft!

- Glak18


I’d be happy to flip Petersen and Walker if we can.
Letterkenney
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Dementia Patient in the White House, DC, PA
Joined: 03.20.2020

Jun 6 @ 4:48 PM ET
WOW! I go do some actual work for a few hours and I miss everything.
Wingdestroyer
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 02.27.2020

Jun 6 @ 4:50 PM ET
Because we want to shed salary as well. If we have cap space we can become the new Arizona dumpster fire team ie take other teams bad contracts for picks.
- Hextall271



well thanks Kinda what we did....
Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

Jun 6 @ 4:50 PM ET
I’d be happy to flip Petersen and Walker if we can.
- Hextall271


Not sure about Petersen, but Walker, Deangelo and Seeler could all be useful for teams at TDL, if they are on the team then. 2 RHD and 1 LHD that can play both sides.

Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

Jun 6 @ 4:52 PM ET
WOW! I go do some actual work for a few hours and I miss everything.
- Letterkenney


In other news, quick observations from other fans talking about the Flyers trade...


They seem to be scared. I see a lot of "Good trade", "About time they are rebuilding", "Oh crap they could become good in a few years if they keep doing this"

Baby steps, but oh yeah.
THE EVIL WITHIN
Location: NJ
Joined: 11.20.2017

Jun 6 @ 4:53 PM ET
Edmonton for a 7th rounder. Omg. I just saw Petersens deal. 5 mil cap hit?? Holy god. That’s more than hart.
- Hextall271

Petersen is perfect for flyers goalie graveyard legacy 👌 👏
Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ersson-Ville, NB, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Jun 6 @ 4:54 PM ET
Not sure about Petersen, but Walker, Deangelo and Seeler could all be useful for teams at TDL, if they are on the team then. 2 RHD and 1 LHD that can play both sides.
- Glak18


I think he needs to see if he can flip some of these assets for this draft because it’s strong. I’m
Not sure about next years. Even if they’re 3rd and 4th rounder type deals.
SMS4016
Joined: 01.27.2011

Jun 6 @ 4:54 PM ET
Because we want to shed salary as well. If we have cap space we can become the new Arizona dumpster fire team ie take other teams bad contracts for picks.
- Hextall271

Walker can easily be moved. Philly only took on 1 mil more. Other moves will /should be made. They will have plenty of cap space if they want. You need picks most importantly. The cap haven arizona style will also help but most importantly need the picks.
Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ersson-Ville, NB, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Jun 6 @ 4:55 PM ET
Petersen is perfect for flyers goalie graveyard legacy 👌 👏
- THE EVIL WITHIN


Well, you know what will happen here, hart will go on to become a franchise top 10 goalie for another team and once we do have an actual contender, we won’t be able to find a goalie. I personally think with a decent team hart could be lights out. Price wasn’t dominant straight out of junior. It took some time.
Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

Jun 6 @ 4:57 PM ET
I think he needs to see if he can flip some of these assets for this draft because it’s strong. I’m
Not sure about next years. Even if they’re 3rd and 4th rounder type deals.

- Hextall271


Next years crop seems to be more D heavy....


THE EVIL WITHIN
Location: NJ
Joined: 11.20.2017

Jun 6 @ 4:58 PM ET
In other news, quick observations from other fans talking about the Flyers trade...


They seem to be scared. I see a lot of "Good trade", "About time they are rebuilding", "Oh crap they could become good in a few years if they keep doing this"

Baby steps, but oh yeah.

- Glak18

But a team like the pens seems to have "tanked" at the right time. Looking on the players they picked up, and saved hockey in Pittsburgh. I fear flyers luck and timing could be off again.
Pelle31Forever
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.20.2014

Jun 6 @ 5:01 PM ET
Just saw the trade. Will have to backread everyone’s opinions. I don’t know much off the players received.

The curse of my player shirts lives on. If I buy your shirt you are getting traded lol. Hartnell, Bryz, Ghost, Patrick & now Provy 🤣

- hereticpride


I'm sure Hayes shirzeys gotta be 75% off.
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Jun 6 @ 5:08 PM ET
Take a mulligan, jack.
- Feanor

waiting for you to elaborate o why you think it is a rough day for me. You made the statement twice. Follow up on it.
Bob Habib
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.01.2020

Jun 6 @ 5:24 PM ET
Danny B is off to a solid start.

Danny B haters in shambles already.

I really like the moves and the use of cap space since we won't be competing for a few years anyway.
If Peterson can bounce back and have a solid year we could retain a little more salary and bring in another 2nd or prospect as well

All in all its a solid start for Danny B!
Keyser soze
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.28.2020

Jun 6 @ 5:28 PM ET
I get why everyone is excited. First the flyers have to get these picks right or they are just back to square one. If Hart is traded it’s best for him. Let’s face this was the best kid we could have hoped for to be our goalie. Unfortunately this new direction will not line up with his timeline. If they deal him hopefully it works out for both parties
fishbulb1980
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: ON
Joined: 04.22.2012

Jun 6 @ 5:29 PM ET
waiting for you to elaborate o why you think it is a rough day for me. You made the statement twice. Follow up on it.
- hello it's me 2050


Biggest trade in ages (other than G) and you guys are on here measuring your dix.
Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ersson-Ville, NB, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Jun 6 @ 5:34 PM ET
Danny B is off to a solid start.

Danny B haters in shambles already.

I really like the moves and the use of cap space since we won't be competing for a few years anyway.
If Peterson can bounce back and have a solid year we could retain a little more salary and bring in another 2nd or prospect as well

All in all its a solid start for Danny B!

- Bob Habib


I’m very willing to give Danny a shot and why would I want him to succeed even if he doesn’t adopt the plan I may think is best. The important part is to set a strategy and go with it. Don’t go back and forth. We wasted what, 4 years with chuck. Even if hexy was gone, had we stayed a course of drafting etc rather than ufa trade for vets we’d be in a lot better spot.
Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ersson-Ville, NB, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Jun 6 @ 5:35 PM ET
I get why everyone is excited. First the flyers have to get these picks right or they are just back to square one. If Hart is traded it’s best for him. Let’s face this was the best kid we could have hoped for to be our goalie. Unfortunately this new direction will not line up with his timeline. If they deal him hopefully it works out for both parties
- Keyser soze


Good take but I fully expect us to begin the forever goalie search once he’s gone.
mikeyo27
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: NJ
Joined: 01.18.2014

Jun 6 @ 5:35 PM ET
GMDB did a good job. So far so good.
22nd overall this year and stocking up on 2 more 2nd rounders next year. It appears DB got a semi-decent RHD prospect, also Walker can be moved or serve as a RHD to replace TDA when he’s traded ( 🤞🏻 ) and he’s a veteran for these younger guys to learn from. Provy move opens up a spot for York in the top 4. Perhaps top 4 are Attard, Walker, York, Sanheim, while Risto and Zemula are the bottom 2?

If this is part of a grand plan, it looks like a Hart move may be more likely but it’s better be a deal that gets the Flyers a massive return and have Ersson and Peterson tend the net.

Dump off TDA and Hayes and get whatever you can get. Remember the Flyers are rebuilding so we don’t want #7 overall next year we want a top 3, and Peterson can help with that!!!! Bring these kids up and give them a chance.
Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

Jun 6 @ 5:37 PM ET
I get why everyone is excited. First the flyers have to get these picks right or they are just back to square one. If Hart is traded it’s best for him. Let’s face this was the best kid we could have hoped for to be our goalie. Unfortunately this new direction will not line up with his timeline. If they deal him hopefully it works out for both parties
- Keyser soze


I can't wait for the fans to scream that the Flyers need a goaltender. So Hart gets traded because he is now an old man at 24 and it will waste his time if he plays during this "rebuild". So the plan is to wait for that magical 18 year old superstar goalie in 4-5 years then wait what 3-6 years to develop them while their prospects start getting into their mid-20s?

Still can't figure out the thought process here. How often do people think goalies become superstars at 20-21?


THE EVIL WITHIN
Location: NJ
Joined: 11.20.2017

Jun 6 @ 5:40 PM ET
Just saw the Brière presser. He looked like he had a ton of secrets he wouldn't talk about.
mikeyo27
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: NJ
Joined: 01.18.2014

Jun 6 @ 5:42 PM ET
Just saw the Brière presser. He looked like he had a ton of secrets he wouldn't speak about.
- THE EVIL WITHIN


I didn’t see it but it sounds like you got the impression the is the just the beginning. From your keyboard to Gods ears!
THE EVIL WITHIN
Location: NJ
Joined: 11.20.2017

Jun 6 @ 5:44 PM ET
I didn’t see it but it sounds like you got the impression the is the just the beginning. From your keyboard to Gods ears!
- mikeyo27

A ton of chuckling, like he spoke to his parents after his first date.
Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ersson-Ville, NB, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Jun 6 @ 5:45 PM ET
GMDB did a good job. So far so good.
22nd overall this year and stocking up on 2 more 2nd rounders next year. What appears to be a semi-decent RHD prospect, Walker can be moved or serve as a RHD to replace TDA when he’s traded ( 🤞🏻 ) and he’s a veteran for these younger guys to learn from. Provy move opens up a spot for York in the top 4. Perhaps top 4 are Attard, Walker, York, Sanheim, while Risto and Zemula are the bottom 2?

If this is part of a grand plan, it looks like a Hart move may be more likely but it’s better be a deal that gets the Flyers a massive return and have Ersson and Peterson tend the net.

Dump off TDA and Hayes and get whatever you can get. Remember the Flyers are rebuilding so we don’t want #7 overall next year we want a top 3, and Peterson can help with that!!!! Bring these kids up and give them a chance.

- mikeyo27


Danny is saying that nothing has changed on hart. That he’s listening to all offers but doesn’t sound like it’s imminent. Maybe it still is. If it was me, I’d be flipping Peterson even if I have to retain. He’s got the bigger cap hit. I just don’t see the value of trading hart then blocking the young guys with a 5 mil guy. If you’re handing the kingdom to ersson sandstrom and whatever is left from frontline fedotov after the war, then just do it.
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