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Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

Jun 6 @ 3:30 PM ET
Is this Danny committing Grans Larceny?
- isaiah520


C'mon I already gave out my internet trophy for the day!
J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

Jun 6 @ 3:31 PM ET
Getting that extra first is huge. If Michkov is there at 7 then you can take the risks now that you have another 1st rounder and two 2nds.
Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

Jun 6 @ 3:31 PM ET
Getting that extra first is huge. If Michkov is there at 7 then you can take the risks now that you have another 1st rounder and two 2nds.
- J35Bacher


Oh this changes the draft A LOT

Although I would like to see the Flyers select Benson if he is there now more.
ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Jun 6 @ 3:32 PM ET
Danny B telling Torts it’s his show now. Meanwhile Jones asleep in his hotel lol he’s just a figure head
WhiskeyMan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 04.27.2018

Jun 6 @ 3:33 PM ET
Is there a chance this cal Petersen could be the starter or is he 100% a backup
- ClaudeFather


A 5 million a year backup in not good
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jun 6 @ 3:33 PM ET
Not sure about Grans…bio seems promising.
- landros 2


Not gonna be a star player but still has 4/5 upside.
landros 2
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Centre of universe
Joined: 02.07.2007

Jun 6 @ 3:33 PM ET

Even if he continues to stink here, he could be bought out next year. Haven't run the numbers on cap friendly yet but I'm sure it'll be palatable, especially if the cap goes up again.

- TobyFlenderson

The cap goes up and the Flyers won’t really need to spend because they simply aren’t going to be very good. Sure they can resign some of their youth but I haven’t seen anyone that will break the bank or should. Taking on some bad contracts and getting assets in return can only help.
J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

Jun 6 @ 3:34 PM ET
A 5 million a year backup in not good
- WhiskeyMan



He'll be the starter. Maybe he finds his game.
Peter Richards
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.24.2019

Jun 6 @ 3:34 PM ET
To CBJ: Provorov

LA retains 30% of Provorov's salary

PHI: 1st (LA from CBJ), 2nd (CBJ), 2nd (LA), Helge Grans (RHD), Sean Walker, (RHD) and Petersen (G)

- HenryHockey


is this just speculation or is this true? Can't find confirmation anywhere
Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

Jun 6 @ 3:34 PM ET
A 5 million a year backup in not good
- WhiskeyMan


Neither is a 10 million 3rd pair or a 7m 3C, but gotta pick your battles.
ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Jun 6 @ 3:35 PM ET
A 5 million a year backup in not good
- WhiskeyMan

This was the kid that LA thought was going to take over for Quick? Just didn’t pan out
WhiskeyMan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 04.27.2018

Jun 6 @ 3:35 PM ET
He'll be the starter. Maybe he finds his game.
- J35Bacher


He showed promise 2 years ago. I have no idea what happened this season, maybe pressure to live up to the new contract got to him.
J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

Jun 6 @ 3:35 PM ET
Neither is a 10 million 3rd pair or a 7m 3C, but gotta pick your battles.
- Glak18


I think he is gone too this offseason
Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

Jun 6 @ 3:36 PM ET
Not gonna be a star player but still has 4/5 upside.
- Tomahawk


He's not overly physical and isn't going to score 20 goals from the blueline so the fans will hate him.
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Jun 6 @ 3:36 PM ET
I’m a deep draft it should be ok if we can actually hit on the picks. Which we never do.
- Hextall271


I’m liking flahrs drafts for the most part
Symba007
Montreal Canadiens
Location: I'm bi. Why limit yourself with half of the possible delicious pleasures of life - Fredo, ON
Joined: 02.26.2007

Jun 6 @ 3:36 PM ET
Frank Seravalli
@frank_seravalli
·
2m
Trade details:

To #CBJ: Ivan Provorov, Kevin Connauton

To #Flyers: 2023 No. 22 overall pick, #LAKings 2024 2nd Rd Pick, #CBJ 2nd Rd Pick in 2024 or 2025, Cal Petersen, Sean Walker, prospect Helge Grans

To #LAKings: 30% retained on Provorov
Peter Richards
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.24.2019

Jun 6 @ 3:38 PM ET
https://www.tsn.ca/nhl/co...three-team-deal-1.1969890

on tsn now. only mentions grans and a second round pick.
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Jun 6 @ 3:38 PM ET
Danny B telling Torts it’s his show now. Meanwhile Jones asleep in his hotel lol he’s just a figure head
- ClaudeFather

i mentioned this earlier, its a good sign
PT21
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 木糠布丁, PA
Joined: 03.04.2008

Jun 6 @ 3:38 PM ET
Plus, Walker can be dealt at the deadline (50%) retained. Flyers didn't have to retain any money on Provorov so that's another win that he doesn't count for that slot. Petersen can be bought out this year or next.

All for selling high on both TK and Hart. Add Laughton to that list as well. Don't think they can move Couturier but I also did not expect this return for Provorov and a bad contract in Petersen.

Wonder if this accelerates a DeAngelo trade or buy out

- TobyFlenderson



I was thinking about the Couturier situation. And I would agree with you chances are low. But I think there is a window for boldness.

3.8m retained for 8 years is big, but not much worse than the Ilya buyout. And the NMC lapses if he agrees to be traded, and he might if he is clearly told Flyers don't expect to sniff the playoffs next few years.

As for who those teams might be, Bergeron has a herniated disk and is always on the verge of retirment. Ditto Krejci. Marchand is 35. Sometimes teams with a dwindling cup window do desperate things.


ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Jun 6 @ 3:39 PM ET
i mentioned this earlier, its a good sign
- hello it's me 2050

Let’s go
Pelle31Forever
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.20.2014

Jun 6 @ 3:39 PM ET
No biggie. Provorov is that kid who hit puberty in the 7th grade but peaked in 10th. I wish him all the best. Dude was always available.
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Jun 6 @ 3:40 PM ET
Frank Seravalli
@frank_seravalli
·
2m
Trade details:

To #CBJ: Ivan Provorov, Kevin Connauton

To #Flyers: 2023 No. 22 overall pick, #LAKings 2024 2nd Rd Pick, #CBJ 2nd Rd Pick in 2024 or 2025, Cal Petersen, Sean Walker, prospect Helge Grans

To #LAKings: 30% retained on Provorov

- Symba007


Ahhh. Would love that #34. But this is still a hell of a trade
Thors-Hammer
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Daytona Beach, FL
Joined: 08.12.2013

Jun 6 @ 3:40 PM ET
The return on Provy looks very good so far. Peterson cleared waivers in December and he only played 10 games last season. That doesn't sound like a starter to me. I wouldn't trade Hart just yet.
landros 2
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Centre of universe
Joined: 02.07.2007

Jun 6 @ 3:40 PM ET
Frank Seravalli
@frank_seravalli
·
2m
Trade details:

To #CBJ: Ivan Provorov, Kevin Connauton

To #Flyers: 2023 No. 22 overall pick, #LAKings 2024 2nd Rd Pick, #CBJ 2nd Rd Pick in 2024 or 2025, Cal Petersen, Sean Walker, prospect Helge Grans

To #LAKings: 30% retained on Provorov

- Symba007



Yes those 2nd rnd picks are 2024 picks…not for this year. Hayden Hodgson gone to LA as well.
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Jun 6 @ 3:40 PM ET
I was thinking about the Couturier situation. And I would agree with you chances are low. But I think there is a window for boldness.

3.8m retained for 8 years is big, but not much worse than the Ilya buyout. And the NMC lapses if he agrees to be traded, and he might if he is clearly told Flyers don't expect to sniff the playoffs next few years.

As for who those teams might be, Bergeron has a herniated disk and is always on the verge of retirment. Ditto Krejci. Marchand is 35. Sometimes teams with a dwindling cup window do desperate things.

- PT21

why would he have to be told? he cant be that stupid to think otherwise.

No one is taking that deal with 50% retained until he shows he is heathy.
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