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BetweenTheDots
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 06.13.2015

Jun 7 @ 3:35 PM ET
Wow a second rounder to sign one of the top D men on the free agent market. Maybe KD will have a team that makes the playoffs in 10 years. Can KD rebuild the Hawks as fast as Blake did the Kings? Blake being in the LA market, and having AEG as an owner does not have the rope to take forever to rebuild like KD apparently Kings haven’t had to trade any of their top prospects as of yet, so they have just a strong if not stronger pipeline than the Hawks.

Peterson signing was a mistake. Blake corrected it and moved on. Would rather have a GM that makes an error of commission than omission. You appear to want the opposite.

And a second rounder is way less painful then having that buyout cap hit on the books for th next 4 years

- LAHawk


But didn't they give up a 1st last year,
then another 1st this year, now a 2nd next year and i don't think they have a 3rd next year. Looks like Vegas will get away with building a team that way, but that's very rare and considering they were am expansion team they had a bit of an advantage.

I just am so grateful KD had the balls to tell Toews and Kane, sorry guys but you guys need to go. Just stripped it down to the studs. We just disagree LA i believe this hurts the Kings more in the future than helps them

You say there's no going home, i say there's no shortcuts in life.
333inthe3rd
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Chicago, IL
Joined: 02.04.2015

Jun 7 @ 3:54 PM ET
Wow a second rounder to sign one of the top D men on the free agent market. Maybe KD will have a team that makes the playoffs in 10 years. Can KD rebuild the Hawks as fast as Blake did the Kings? Blake being in the LA market, and having AEG as an owner does not have the rope to take forever to rebuild like KD apparently Kings haven’t had to trade any of their top prospects as of yet, so they have just a strong if not stronger pipeline than the Hawks.

Peterson signing was a mistake. Blake corrected it and moved on. Would rather have a GM that makes an error of commission than omission. You appear to want the opposite.

And a second rounder is way less painful then having that buyout cap hit on the books for th next 4 years

- LAHawk


The Kings did well as the third party in that Provorov deal. They shed just over $5 mill in cap space for the next season, and it only cost a 2nd to do so.
vabeachbear
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Ft Courage - out in the middle of Indian Country, NC
Joined: 10.17.2011

Jun 7 @ 4:00 PM ET
The Kings did well as the third party in that Provorov deal. They shed just over $5 mill in cap space for the next season, and it only cost a 2nd to do so.
- 333inthe3rd


I think it was an insane price for Provorov, makes no sense to me, but hey what do I know, I've been wondering for years about the great Jarmo and what's he been doing, and everyone talks about him like he's some kind of genius.

I like the deal though because it sets a market, and if those kinds of deals are out there at the draft, with the cap space KD has he should be able to take full advantage.
mohel
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 02.08.2013

Jun 7 @ 4:09 PM ET
Wait, what???

You need to spend more time down here in the South

- vabeachbear


Also, what is this notion that parenting matters?
boilermaker100
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 06.23.2015

Jun 7 @ 4:15 PM ET
I think it was an insane price for Provorov, makes no sense to me, but hey what do I know, I've been wondering for years about the great Jarmo and what's he been doing, and everyone talks about him like he's some kind of genius.

I like the deal though because it sets a market, and if those kinds of deals are out there at the draft, with the cap space KD has he should be able to take full advantage.

- vabeachbear


Jarmo can only win trades when dealing with Stan.
vabeachbear
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Ft Courage - out in the middle of Indian Country, NC
Joined: 10.17.2011

Jun 7 @ 4:51 PM ET
Jarmo can only win trades when dealing with Stan.
- boilermaker100


Stan had a few doozies.

One out of cap gun to his head(TT), one out of self inflicted pressure (Danault and his worst one ever!) and one real mystery (S. Jones).

Other than those (and I'm not really sure the Jones trade will turn out to be earth shattering bade) most were draws or slight wins.
vabeachbear
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Ft Courage - out in the middle of Indian Country, NC
Joined: 10.17.2011

Jun 7 @ 4:53 PM ET
Also, what is this notion that parenting matters?
- mohel


So putting two and two together Canadian parents are better than American parents?
boilermaker100
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 06.23.2015

Jun 7 @ 6:15 PM ET
Stan had a few doozies.

One out of cap gun to his head(TT), one out of self inflicted pressure (Danault and his worst one ever!) and one real mystery (S. Jones).

Other than those (and I'm not really sure the Jones trade will turn out to be earth shattering bade) most were draws or slight wins.

- vabeachbear


Don't forget the two Brendan Saad trades. First was basically Anisimov for Saad and the other Panarin for the return of Saad. Jarmo got the best player in both of them.
DarthKane
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 5.13.4.9
Joined: 02.23.2012

Jun 7 @ 6:43 PM ET
The Blackhawks re-signed AA for 2 years @ $4.25 million AAV
wiz1901
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: DraftSite com, IL
Joined: 05.14.2008

Jun 7 @ 6:48 PM ET
OK Panger is in then.

I'm still not sold on Vosters, was a tough listen at times last year. Maybe they all are when they are young.

Does this mean Sharp is going all National?

- vabeachbear



I am just so happy that Colby Cohen is gone. It really bothered me how intentionally tried to one - up Chris Vosters, and tells us about when he played NHL against so & so (THREE NHL games!).
I knew that Colby was unliked when on air Sharpie dumped on him with a put down.

I respect all your opinions, but as far as I am concerned Eichel is still over-rated and no where close to NHL captain material....
Elbows15
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: I was going to do the math on this but I don't think it will help., IL
Joined: 08.04.2013

Jun 7 @ 7:08 PM ET
Colby is out and Darren Pang is in?
Am I the only one who hates the idea of Pang being the voice of the Blackhawks?

- captainserious

no, no, you are not.
Elbows15
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: I was going to do the math on this but I don't think it will help., IL
Joined: 08.04.2013

Jun 7 @ 7:11 PM ET
The Blackhawks re-signed AA for 2 years @ $4.25 million AAV
- DarthKane

Yikes. Hope this isn't an indication KD's negotiating skills.

Yes, I am aware about the floor and all that jazz but that is a bit much for AA and doesn't make him attractive at the TDL.

Tho, TBF to AA, he did come to play every night and his effort can't be questioned. Plus the whole magic goal so maybe he got a little extra
TheDrumonMadison
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 06.20.2019

Jun 7 @ 7:13 PM ET
Apparently Bedard is interviewing with the Hawks today per NHL Draft Class podcast’s latest episode w/ Bedard & Doneghy

https://open.spotify.com/...si=EZYj7tnpSAiG6_Soo_2l2w
boilermaker100
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 06.23.2015

Jun 7 @ 7:15 PM ET
The Blackhawks re-signed AA for 2 years @ $4.25 million AAV
- DarthKane


You referring to Anisimov or Athanasiou? Thought Artim was extended for 5 years by Stan shortly after the Saad trade.

Edit- never mind Darth. Reports out that Athanasiou was extended 2 x 4.25M
Elbows15
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: I was going to do the math on this but I don't think it will help., IL
Joined: 08.04.2013

Jun 7 @ 7:16 PM ET
Are we generalizing across whole populations based on national origin?
- mohel

its all the rage

(frank)face
Elbows15
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: I was going to do the math on this but I don't think it will help., IL
Joined: 08.04.2013

Jun 7 @ 7:19 PM ET
Wow a second rounder to sign one of the top D men on the free agent market. Maybe KD will have a team that makes the playoffs in 10 years. Can KD rebuild the Hawks as fast as Blake did the Kings? Blake being in the LA market, and having AEG as an owner does not have the rope to take forever to rebuild like KD apparently Kings haven’t had to trade any of their top prospects as of yet, so they have just a strong if not stronger pipeline than the Hawks.

Peterson signing was a mistake. Blake corrected it and moved on. Would rather have a GM that makes an error of commission than omission. You appear to want the opposite.

And a second rounder is way less painful then having that buyout cap hit on the books for th next 4 years

- LAHawk

Not that I have a pony in this race but Blake paid a 1st, at least one 2nd and Grans. Pkus took on 30% of Provo's cap hit to sign Gavrikov to get rid of Petersen and Walker
Dieselhead
Location: CA
Joined: 11.01.2011

Jun 7 @ 7:20 PM ET
Maybe we should draft a goalie. Good analysis of the Oilers and their drafting woes over the past 12 years:

Elbows15
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: I was going to do the math on this but I don't think it will help., IL
Joined: 08.04.2013

Jun 7 @ 7:20 PM ET
Apparently Bedard is interviewing with the Hawks today per NHL Draft Class podcast’s latest episode w/ Bedard & Doneghy

https://open.spotify.com/...si=EZYj7tnpSAiG6_Soo_2l2w

- TheDrumonMadison

Hope he does well.



/SARCASM
TommyHawk
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 05.23.2013

Jun 7 @ 7:21 PM ET
I’m fine with the AA re-signing. Probably $1m too rich but it’s negligible with a rising cap in 2024.
LAHawk
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 11.02.2017

Jun 7 @ 7:41 PM ET
I’m fine with the AA re-signing. Probably $1m too rich but it’s negligible with a rising cap in 2024.
- TommyHawk



I think the high AAV as it is only 2 years and not 3
TheDrumonMadison
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 06.20.2019

Jun 7 @ 7:42 PM ET
After going through tough times as a fan these past few years: Stan GMing, the off ice issues, having to watch a sucky hockey team, saying goodbye to Toews and Kane, Keith too.

Hearing in that podcast a highlight of all the great things that the hawks and us fans have here right in front of us sure feels good.

Now the new hockey ops need to hit after picking Bedard. This draft will be a defining moment. Looking forward to it.
ChicagoHope
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Lyndon, IL
Joined: 08.13.2007

Jun 7 @ 7:43 PM ET
I’m fine with the AA re-signing. Probably $1m too rich but it’s negligible with a rising cap in 2024.
- TommyHawk

Would rather have Domi at that price. Even though AA did have nice chemistry with Reichel. AA provides a speed element the Hawks lack right now outside of Reichel and soon to be Bedard. I am ok with it, but a little too high. Not going to be a killer, hopefully some Hawks prospects are ready when AA’s contract expires. I also am ok with 1 or 2 year contracts that will not interfere with younger players when they are ready and the Hawks are competitive again. At that time, the Hawks can actually sign players longer that will truly help to hopefully push them to contender status once again.
Mr Ricochet
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Joliet, IL
Joined: 04.19.2009

Jun 7 @ 7:45 PM ET
Are we generalizing across whole populations based on national origin?
- mohel


Your answer is in my original post, Mo. I posted "in my limited time up in Canada I found Canadians to be respectful and happy people". ....... Read anything you like into it, Mo, and if your intention is to really have your question answered read my original post of which is apparently the origin of your query.

I also noticed Canadians were a hell of a lot thinner than Americans too. Another generalization on national origins I guess? Another probable/possible generalization in your eyes is the guys I played against up there played hockey with a helluva lot more pace than we do here.

Want an example, Mo? ... Ok, I explained it to the fellas this way. At my daytime hole in the wall tavern there is a big window facing a main drag thru town, speed limit is 30. Sit on a stool for a few yrs and you get used to the pace of the cars going by at 30. You come in and sit down one day and the cars are wizzin by at 45-50.

Big difference and if you're the goalie you better acclimate fast or you will be embarrassed. .......... Generalizations or observations, Mo? You decide.
Mr Ricochet
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Joliet, IL
Joined: 04.19.2009

Jun 7 @ 7:52 PM ET
I think the high AAV as it is only 2 years and not 3
- LAHawk


Think you're correct. If the deal gave more term there would be less AAV, as it should be. You negotiate giving a higher AAV or term but not both.... I like the deal and that AA is back. Wonder where he'll slot?

So far it seems KD is sticking to his guns on no long term deals and is looking at having flexibility 3 yrs from now.
ChicagoHope
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Lyndon, IL
Joined: 08.13.2007

Jun 7 @ 7:55 PM ET
Think you're correct. If the deal gave more term there would be less AAV, as it should be. You negotiate giving a higher AAV or term but not both.... I like the deal and that AA is back. Wonder where he'll slot?

So far it seems KD is sticking to his guns on no long term deals and is looking at having flexibility 3 yrs from now.

- Mr Ricochet

In 3 years players will want to come here with a chance to play with Bedard, the time is not now to go nuts forking out money and KD definitely knows that.
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