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kfinl170
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: NJ
Joined: 07.05.2010

Jun 6 @ 3:05 PM ET
Flyers got D Sean Walker, G Cal Petersen, D Helge Grans, 2023 first-round pick (LA), 2023 second-round pick (two of them?) From Friedman
- burgh4life87


Yeah I see that now
Brownsoldier
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Altoona
Joined: 06.30.2015

Jun 6 @ 3:06 PM ET
What firsts? I saw Peterson Walker and a b level prospect
- kfinl170

Agreed^^

I curious where hart is going.
Brownsoldier
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Altoona
Joined: 06.30.2015

Jun 6 @ 3:07 PM ET
Flyers got D Sean Walker, G Cal Petersen, D Helge Grans, 2023 first-round pick (LA), 2023 second-round pick (two of them?) From Friedman
- burgh4life87

Jesus
MacPatty
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 05.21.2015

Jun 6 @ 3:16 PM ET
Flyers got D Sean Walker, G Cal Petersen, D Helge Grans, 2023 first-round pick (LA), 2023 second-round pick (two of them?) From Friedman
- burgh4life87


Initially I read it as two first round picks. Either way, a 1st and two 2nds is a pretty good haul.
burgh4life87
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 04.22.2014

Jun 6 @ 3:38 PM ET
Like three different "official" deals are posted l
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Jun 6 @ 3:44 PM ET
Like three different "official" deals are posted l
- burgh4life87

It’s a mess until the deal is official
burgh4life87
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 04.22.2014

Jun 6 @ 3:54 PM ET
It’s a mess until the deal is official
- Feds91Stammer

Flyers say the got 22 overall this year, LA's 2nd 2024, and then CBJ's 2nd in either 24/24, plus Petersen, Walker, Grans.

CBJ got Prov at 70% contract

LA got 30% of Prov contract, Connauton, and some other dude.
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Jun 6 @ 3:57 PM ET
Flyers say the got 22 overall this year, LA's 2nd 2024, and then CBJ's 2nd in either 24/24, plus Petersen, Walker, Grans.

CBJ got Prov at 70% contract

LA got 30% of Prov contract, Connauton, and some other dude.

- burgh4life87

That’s what I saw. I saw something else that made it look like Philly was getting 3OA
burgh4life87
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 04.22.2014

Jun 6 @ 3:59 PM ET
That’s what I saw. I saw something else that made it look like Philly was getting 3OA
- Feds91Stammer

I posted that on here and deleted it real quick when I saw it wasn't true It said Philly and CBJ swapped picks. I should have known better.
Victoro311
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: San Diego, CA
Joined: 06.17.2014

Jun 6 @ 4:01 PM ET
Flyers got D Sean Walker, G Cal Petersen, D Helge Grans, 2023 first-round pick (LA), 2023 second-round pick (two of them?) From Friedman
- burgh4life87

Notre Dame great Cal Petersen!
SuperHenderson13
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 10.13.2008

Jun 6 @ 4:22 PM ET
Good trade for the Flyers - 1st, 2 2nds, a good prospect and two dumps. Good business if they trade Hart now, but this should've been done last season. Hart playing well to start the season is why the Flyers are picking 7th and not in the top 3.
j.boyd919
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Tampa, FL
Joined: 06.14.2011

Jun 6 @ 4:25 PM ET
That’s what I saw. I saw something else that made it look like Philly was getting 3OA
- Feds91Stammer


Provorov goes from Torts to Babcock, that's gotta suck.
MacPatty
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 05.21.2015

Jun 6 @ 4:44 PM ET
Provorov goes from Torts to Babcock, that's gotta suck.
- j.boyd919


Nic Lidstrom won 3 back Norris trophies in a row after Babcock took over in Detroit. Not that he wasn't already a great player, but he was coming off of his worst career year at 35 years old when that streak started... Babcock will be great for that D group.

Anyone who doesn't want to work hard and backcheck will have a hard time.
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Jun 6 @ 4:55 PM ET
Nic Lidstrom won 3 back Norris trophies in a row after Babcock took over in Detroit. Not that he wasn't already a great player, but he was coming off of his worst career year at 35 years old when that streak started... Babcock will be great for that D group.

Anyone who doesn't want to work hard and backcheck will have a hard time.

- MacPatty

Babcock sucks dude.
j.boyd919
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Tampa, FL
Joined: 06.14.2011

Jun 6 @ 5:09 PM ET
Nic Lidstrom won 3 back Norris trophies in a row after Babcock took over in Detroit. Not that he wasn't already a great player, but he was coming off of his worst career year at 35 years old when that streak started... Babcock will be great for that D group.

Anyone who doesn't want to work hard and backcheck will have a hard time.

- MacPatty


He also won 3 before him, and came in 2nd for Norris voting 3 years before winning the first 3 straight. Babcock ain't the reason Lidstrom won Norris's.
burgh4life87
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 04.22.2014

Jun 6 @ 5:26 PM ET
Provorov goes from Torts to Babcock, that's gotta suck.
- j.boyd919

Jarmo not exactly having a great few days.
Victoro311
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: San Diego, CA
Joined: 06.17.2014

Jun 6 @ 5:28 PM ET
Jarmo not exactly having a great few days.
- burgh4life87

I don’t think Jarmo fits CBJ very well. I wonder if he’d be much better suited for a big market team.
burgh4life87
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 04.22.2014

Jun 6 @ 5:34 PM ET
I don’t think Jarmo fits CBJ very well. I wonder if he’d be much better suited for a big market team.
- Victoro311

I don't see a real plan with his moves. Sign Gudbranson and Gaudreau in the same offseason. Bring in Babcock and Provorov. Why bother signing expensive talent when you clearly don't want them playing a talent forward game.
Brownsoldier
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Altoona
Joined: 06.30.2015

Jun 6 @ 5:37 PM ET
I don’t think Jarmo fits CBJ very well. I wonder if he’d be much better suited for a big market team.
- Victoro311


Carter will waive to go back to Philly. Make it happen Kyle.
Victoro311
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: San Diego, CA
Joined: 06.17.2014

Jun 6 @ 5:46 PM ET
I don't see a real plan with his moves. Sign Gudbranson and Gaudreau in the same offseason. Bring in Babcock and Provorov. Why bother signing expensive talent when you clearly don't want them playing a talent forward game.
- burgh4life87

I feel like most of Jarmo’s moves in a vacuum are solid but when put together they don’t come out coherent and I think that’s because it’s CBJ and it’s incredibly hard to get people to want to go there or retain them when they are there, so the franchise is constantly in desperation mode. I think if Jarmo wasn’t constantly desperate he could have a decent amount of success.
MacPatty
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 05.21.2015

Jun 6 @ 7:41 PM ET
Jarmo not exactly having a great few days.
- burgh4life87


I dont understand this comment... he just made a big trade to get a really good player for good value. What about that makes for not exactly a great day?
burgh4life87
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 04.22.2014

Jun 6 @ 8:15 PM ET
I dont understand this comment... he just made a big trade to get a really good player for good value. What about that makes for not exactly a great day?
- MacPatty

Provorov is average at best. He spent a 1st and a 2nd to get him. Even at 30% reduced it's a bad move.
kgrpitt
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: PA
Joined: 09.08.2010

Jun 6 @ 10:56 PM ET
Curious to see what Debrincat fetches. Seems like a Dubas type move that turns out to be lateral but might be a shakeup they are looking for.
MacPatty
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 05.21.2015

Jun 7 @ 12:21 AM ET
Curious to see what Debrincat fetches. Seems like a Dubas type move that turns out to be lateral but might be a shakeup they are looking for.
- kgrpitt


Honestly I feel like Debrincat is going to be a trap for someone. He is a talented shooter but he looks like a PP specialist rather than a elite winger. Not really a dynamic player at all and scores a great majority of his goals just hanging out in the same spot and waiting for the puck to come to him.

Don't get me wrong, there will always be a place in the top 6 for guys who can put the puck in the net but by the time you give up a 1st & 2nd rounder and hand him 8/$8M, you are going to have some massive regrets.

To me, he is like a less dynamic version of prime Mike Hoffman. I hope we just stay away.
j.boyd919
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Tampa, FL
Joined: 06.14.2011

Jun 7 @ 6:59 AM ET
I dont understand this comment... he just made a big trade to get a really good player for good value. What about that makes for not exactly a great day?
- MacPatty


Because Provorov isn’t a really good player. He was once a young player with great potential but never lived up to it.
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