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GreatGigInTheSky
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: "Yeah, Garth is a tool"- Garf, ON
Joined: 06.12.2017

May 31 @ 3:47 PM ET
Who. Hired. Sutter.
- Rare_Jewel


Maybe the same guy that said no when Treliving wanted to fire him? So Treliving got fired instead?

Seems likely, to me.
dmnted
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Space for Rent
Joined: 08.30.2006

May 31 @ 3:48 PM ET
Rielly- Schenn
McCabe - Liljegren
- Timmins
Gio

When Schenn gets a game off, move Liljegren beside Rielly for that game. McCabe to RD beside Gio.

- GreatGigInTheSky


can Mayfield play the left side?
Rare_Jewel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 05.31.2021

May 31 @ 3:48 PM ET
Maybe the same guy that said no when Treliving wanted to fire him? So Treliving got fired instead?

Seems likely, to me.

- GreatGigInTheSky


So either he's a puppet or he's a bad GM.

Either way, he's a bad hire for the Leafs and Shanahan needs to be fired.
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

May 31 @ 3:48 PM ET
If Holl comes back, then nothing changes..
I would hope at least two changes on defense.

Rielly, McCabe and Liljegren should be safe.. Would be great if they could re-sign Schenn as a 6-7 guy

- PatC80

The tree will try to make a splash on defense, i see a ufa signing for the top 4.
Need size back there
GreatGigInTheSky
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: "Yeah, Garth is a tool"- Garf, ON
Joined: 06.12.2017

May 31 @ 3:48 PM ET
GRAVEDIGGER 💙
- mr.sir


He a free agent?
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

May 31 @ 3:50 PM ET
The blueline is basically already built. Just need Schenn signed.

Unless Brodie or Gio are traded out or retire.

- GreatGigInTheSky

We need more size back there. The tree will make a splash either via ufa or trade.
Hope to see soucy back there.
GreatGigInTheSky
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: "Yeah, Garth is a tool"- Garf, ON
Joined: 06.12.2017

May 31 @ 3:50 PM ET
Trade Brodie and Nylander to the Islander for Dobson + Pageau
then flip Pageau for 2nd round pick and a prospect.


- dmnted


I highly doubt anyone would give a 2nd for Pageau, since he really (frank)ing sucks.

And his contract is even worse than he is.

Getting Dobson would be great, though.
PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

May 31 @ 3:50 PM ET
Yeah totally, it must be because I love the guy whom I've wanted fired for over 3 years.

Shanahan and the entire management team should have been fired. All of them.

- Rare_Jewel



Calgary had a 111 point season the year before, I like how you just gloss over all the good things Treliving did.. Getting Markstrom, Toffoli, Coleman, drafted really well in Calgary with guys like Mangiapane and Andersson..



You went from hating Dubas to becoming a Dubas supporter in the span of a day.
GreatGigInTheSky
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: "Yeah, Garth is a tool"- Garf, ON
Joined: 06.12.2017

May 31 @ 3:51 PM ET
If the Leafs can't hire a defensive expert head coach and can't fix the blueline, their best option really is Hellebuyck.

Would be the best goalie they've had since Belfour.

- Rare_Jewel


Leafs were one of the tops in the league in defensive numbers.
PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

May 31 @ 3:51 PM ET
We need more size back there. The tree will make a splash either via ufa or trade.
Hope to see soucy back there.

- Fakepartofme



Soucy and Zadorov?
Monkeypunk
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Whenever, wherever, ON
Joined: 06.27.2013

May 31 @ 3:51 PM ET
Just seems to be an odd number of players that refused to play under Treliving's watch.

Either that's the worst luck of all time or a it's pattern that maybe he created with poor management.

- Rare_Jewel


Not for nothing but it's also Calgary. Calgary, Edmonton and Winnipeg have a hard time attracting and keeping talent.

Just so it's clear - I'll defend Treliving on some of his deals, but I'm far from sold on the guy. His UFA signings have been abysmal - maybe that's because of the above; we'll see.

Kadri 31 y.o $7m x 7
Huberdeau 30 y.o $10.5m x 8
Coleman 29 y.o $4.9m x 6
Tanev 30 y.o $4.5m x 4
Neal 30 y.o $5.75 x 5
Giordano 32 y.o $6.75m x 6

On the whole I like all of those guys to some degree or at least did at some point in their career (I'm looking at you, Neal) but all of those contracts are immediately obvious as problems at some point.

His drafting was definitely better in the first couple of years; I wonder if Calgary lost a key scout or something, because they haven't had any emergent young talent coming up quickly. Coronato, I believe, is one on the rise now, though.
dmnted
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Space for Rent
Joined: 08.30.2006

May 31 @ 3:52 PM ET
So either he's a puppet or he's a bad GM.

Either way, he's a bad hire for the Leafs and Shanahan needs to be fired.

- Rare_Jewel

maybe in your opinion but I'm willing to wait and judge later and see what he does.
Rare_Jewel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 05.31.2021

May 31 @ 3:52 PM ET
can Mayfield play the left side?
- dmnted


The Leafs right side is so weak, if they sign Mayfield, he absolutely must play on the right side and probably next to Rielly so he can play offensively.

Brodie and McCabe have to get moved and replaced by Gavrikov and Mayfield.

I'd like to add Dumoulin and keep Schenn too. Solid, dependable guys who have proven to play well in the playoffs and know what it takes to win multiple Cups.

Rielly / Mayfield
Gavrikov / Schenn
Dumoulin / Liljegren
Giordano

Hellebuyck
Woll

That's a brick wall of defense and goaltending. You can win games 1-0 or 2-1 with a team like that.
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

May 31 @ 3:52 PM ET
Rielly- Schenn
McCabe - Liljegren
knuckle dragger - Timmins
Gio

When Schenn gets a game off, move Liljegren beside Rielly for that game. McCabe to RD beside Gio.

- GreatGigInTheSky

Honestly schenn cannot be on the top line, i know he played well in the playoffs at times, but hes a bottom pairing guy...maybe 2nd line.
GreatGigInTheSky
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: "Yeah, Garth is a tool"- Garf, ON
Joined: 06.12.2017

May 31 @ 3:52 PM ET
can Mayfield play the left side?
- dmnted


I try to avoid watching the Islanders, since they're unbelievably boring.
GreatGigInTheSky
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: "Yeah, Garth is a tool"- Garf, ON
Joined: 06.12.2017

May 31 @ 3:53 PM ET
So either he's a puppet or he's a bad GM.

Either way, he's a bad hire for the Leafs and Shanahan needs to be fired.

- Rare_Jewel


Or, conversely, they didn't want to pay another coach to not be there.
GreatGigInTheSky
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: "Yeah, Garth is a tool"- Garf, ON
Joined: 06.12.2017

May 31 @ 3:53 PM ET
The tree will try to make a splash on defense, i see a ufa signing for the top 4.
Need size back there

- Fakepartofme


Is there a list of the top big name D available in Free Agency?
Rare_Jewel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 05.31.2021

May 31 @ 3:54 PM ET
Not for nothing but it's also Calgary. Calgary, Edmonton and Winnipeg have a hard time attracting and keeping talent.

Just so it's clear - I'll defend Treliving on some of his deals, but I'm far from sold on the guy. His UFA signings have been abysmal - maybe that's because of the above; we'll see.

Kadri 31 y.o $7m x 7
Huberdeau 30 y.o $10.5m x 8
Coleman 29 y.o $4.9m x 6
Tanev 30 y.o $4.5m x 4
Neal 30 y.o $5.75 x 5
Giordano 32 y.o $6.75m x 6

On the whole I like all of those guys to some degree or at least did at some point in their career (I'm looking at you, Neal) but all of those contracts are immediately obvious as problems at some point.

His drafting was definitely better in the first couple of years; I wonder if Calgary lost a key scout or something, because they haven't had any emergent young talent coming up quickly. Coronato, I believe, is one on the rise now, though.

- Monkeypunk


I didn't even touch the signings earlier but your list there shows his propensity to sign players over 30 to huge deals. That's a very Leafy thing to do and it rarely ends well.
dmnted
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Space for Rent
Joined: 08.30.2006

May 31 @ 3:55 PM ET
I highly doubt anyone would give a 2nd for Pageau, since he really (frank)ing sucks.

And his contract is even worse than he is.

Getting Dobson would be great, though.

- GreatGigInTheSky

we are sending 11M to the Islanders. Leafs will need to take cap back.
I thought of Palmari with the same cap hit but less 1 year on his contract
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

May 31 @ 3:55 PM ET
Go get a legit number 1 D Treyman!

I hear they grow on....................trees.
GreatGigInTheSky
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: "Yeah, Garth is a tool"- Garf, ON
Joined: 06.12.2017

May 31 @ 3:56 PM ET
The Leafs right side is so weak, if they sign Mayfield, he absolutely must play on the right side and probably next to Rielly so he can play offensively.

Brodie and McCabe have to get moved and replaced by Gavrikov and Mayfield.

I'd like to add Dumoulin and keep Schenn too. Solid, dependable guys who have proven to play well in the playoffs and know what it takes to win multiple Cups.

Rielly / Mayfield
Gavrikov / Schenn
Dumoulin / Liljegren
Giordano

Hellebuyck
Woll

That's a brick wall of defense and goaltending. You can win games 1-0 or 2-1 with a team like that.

- Rare_Jewel


Those guys suck, by the way.

And Liljegren is still easily the best guy on RD.
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

May 31 @ 3:56 PM ET
So either he's a puppet or he's a bad GM.

Either way, he's a bad hire for the Leafs and Shanahan needs to be fired.

- Rare_Jewel

Omg relax.
Hasnt even had the press conference
GreatGigInTheSky
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: "Yeah, Garth is a tool"- Garf, ON
Joined: 06.12.2017

May 31 @ 3:57 PM ET
Honestly schenn cannot be on the top line, i know he played well in the playoffs at times, but hes a bottom pairing guy...maybe 2nd line.
- Fakepartofme


Yeah, I only put him there when he plays.

So half the time with Rielly and the other half he's #7 in the pressbox.
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

May 31 @ 3:57 PM ET
Is there a list of the top big name D available in Free Agency?
- GreatGigInTheSky

I believe mr sir posted one in the last blog
If you ask him kindly, he may repost.
Rare_Jewel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 05.31.2021

May 31 @ 3:58 PM ET
Those guys suck, by the way.

And Liljegren is still easily the best guy on RD.

- GreatGigInTheSky


They absolutely don't and are definite upgrades over Brodie and McCabe.

You have a love affair with Liljegren but he really isn't that good. Was rather over-matched in the playoffs. He's still a soft bottom pairing D.

Everybody is better than Holl, that we agree on.
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