That is fair.

I just can't understand the anger with this.

I've been on Hockeybuzz far too much the last few years and if there has been one guy here to defend Dubas from the bashing it has been me. It is like Shanny axed off a family member for some of these people...

I just can't see the significance of this. This doesn't greatly improve or decrease the Leafs chances of winning a cup. If anything it gives us more to talk about while moving laterally in terms of on ice entertainment value. Who cares.
- Santo_44

There's no anger. I am not angry about Dubas not being extended. I figured he was fired the moment they lost game 5.

How they did it just makes me laugh at MLSE as an organization.

Wait, he said he wasnt going to be a gm anywhere else.

How could this be!!
- Fakepartofme

And then he got fired from the team he said he wanted to be back with.

Wow. It's like he had his choice taken from him!

I always agree with your suggestions Sir, we have the same ideas.

Besides money/probability of getting said players, this would be my kind of STRONG line up. Thoughts?

Knies, Matthews, Wilson
Myles Wood, Tavares, Marner
Motte, Mantha, Jarnkrok
Lafferty, Holmberg, Hathaway

McCabe, Soucy
Graves, Brodie
Rielly, Schenn

Samsonov/Lyon
Woll

This guy gets it!
Barb for GM 👍

And as I've told you and your impossibly small brain many times now; I didn't come to hate Holl because I need someone to hate. I hated him because he was abysmal and actively made the Leafs worse every time he touched the ice. And I am more than validated in that.

But hey, now that him playing here is in the past, maybe you can finally admit you were laughably wrong. That he was a detriment to the team. Just because you require hindsight to finally arrive at the correct destination, doesn't mean others do, too.
- GreatGigInTheSky

Holl

Now Shanny

I am just wondering who it will be on the ice this year

Wait, he said he wasnt going to be a gm anywhere else.

How could this be!!
- Fakepartofme

Well that was before getting the boot.

I wouldn't blame him for... you know... accepting another job after the job he wanted to come back to told him to (frank) off after a press conference.

There's no anger. I am not angry about Dubas not being extended. I figured he was fired the moment they lost game 5.

How they did it just makes me laugh at MLSE as an organization.
- Aaron_85

The microscope on this team makes everything worse than it is.

The best players father on the Coyotes openly says he is done with the team and others will follow suit and its not even a story.

Holl

Now Shanny

I am just wondering who it will be on the ice this year
- Santo_44

Had no problem with Shanahan until that embarrassing press conference.

Time you jogged on now, Santo.

The microscope on this team makes everything worse than it is.

The best players father on the Coyotes openly says he is done with the team and others will follow suit and its not even a story.
- Santo_44

That's only because everyone knows the Coyotes are a in a poopty situation and players would rather play elsewhere.

Keller's dad tweeting it didn't move the needle at all... so it's barely a story yeah.

Had no problem with Shanahan until that embarrassing press conference.

Time you jogged on now, Santo.
- GreatGigInTheSky

Yup.

Latching onto it like you did wth Holl the last few years.

Yup.

Latching onto it like you did wth Holl the last few years.
- Santo_44

You're (frank)ing pathetic, man.

That's only because everyone knows the Coyotes are a in a poopty situation and players would rather play elsewhere.

Keller's dad tweeting it didn't move the needle at all... so it's barely a story yeah.
- Scabeh

Lol ok

Disagree but ok

You're (frank)ing pathetic, man.
- GreatGigInTheSky

Sure

Hold another grudge, you are good at that.

Holl

Now Shanny

I am just wondering who it will be on the ice this year
- Santo_44

Wes McCauley

Sure

Hold another grudge
- Santo_44

"Discussion" between you and 90% of the people on here ends the same way.

You're the common denominator.

"Discussion" between you and 90% of the people on here ends the same way.

You're the common denominator.
- GreatGigInTheSky

90% of people out of 3 of the same people yes, join the 3 if you'd like. You'll fit in.

I could see that 4 day or whatever period making Shanny’s relationship with the Board and Dubas too much trouble so he just cut bait.
- Canada Cup

Not to mention the oddity of "the email on the night of day 4" advising that "I want to come back".

Wait what!?..so we didn't know if you want to be a part of our love?

I'm a prideful guy ...if Mrs. Lawsie had done that I'd have shown her the door.

Also ...by showing her the door I mean i would have had to leave cuz she'd have got the house and everything else.

Lol ok

Disagree but ok
- Santo_44

You disagree because of that made up scenario in your head where the Leafs are taking advantage of the situation and grab Keller for Matt Murray, Jake Muzzin and a 2nd round pick ebcause it "helps them get to the cap floor".


If there was a story there, journalists would have been all over it, they barely were.

Wes McCauley
- drexel

I wouldn't be surprised

Probably some FA signed at 2M though, that is my guess.

Open the betting lines.

Wes McCauley
- drexel

Sure

Hold another grudge, you are good at that.
- Santo_44

Hating useless things that make things I like worse =/= holding a grudge, moron.

Hating useless things that make things I like worse =/= holding a grudge, moron.
- GreatGigInTheSky

At least you know what you are doing, that is a step

At least you know what you are doing, that is a step
- Santo_44

Wow. You really are this stupid, eh?

Like, it's not an act. You're just an overall dumb human being.

You disagree because of that made up scenario in your head where the Leafs are taking advantage of the situation and grab Keller for Matt Murray, Jake Muzzin and a 2nd round pick ebcause it "helps them get to the cap floor".


If there was a story there, journalists would have been all over it, they barely were.
- Scabeh

Yeah no.

Muzzin most certainly would help move the deal along though.

Coyotes want to bring in cap and move out money.

If they do move Keller they will most certainly want to do it with a team that can do this for them.

Don't be jealous the Leafs are in a position to bring in good players to a good team

Wow. You really are this stupid, eh?
- GreatGigInTheSky

Just observing you is all.

So much talk about Dubas and if he or the Leafs were at fault for him leaving.

From what we know, Dubas agreed in principle to a contract. He then publicly stated he wasn't sure if he wanted to continue being a GM for personal/family reasons. BS already stated he was blown away when he saw that presser - caught him by shock since he thought they had a deal. Then Dubas reneged on the deal and demanded more then what he agreed too....
How do we know that there wasn't already a lot of negotiating between Dubas and the Leafs to get to that deal they had in place?

Dubas handled himself very poorly from what we do know. This, coming from a GM with a huge amount of talent on his team (most of which he did not draft) that has only made it out of the first round once in 5yrs. He was in no position to try and strong arm the Leafs and BS did what almost any business would have done, fired the malcontent employee.

Again, this is based on what we know....there could be behind the scene things we don't know but based on what we do know, he was rightfully fired.

I say this and at the same point am not happy - as I liked Dubas and really did want him to stay. I just wanted the Leafs to fire Keefe's ass!