How the hell are you not permanently banned at this point?
- Scabeh

Great question.

Do carberry helped the leafs have one of the best pps in the league

two seasons under Spencer Carbery's guidance, the Toronto Maple Leafs' power-play was second-best in the NHL (26.6%).

Only the Edmonton Oilers' was better over that span (29.4%).
- Fakepartofme

they'll need to find a replacement that could live up to that standard.

Great question.
- Cush29

under threat of being sued.

they'll need to find a replacement that could live up to that standard.
- dmnted

Bruce
There it is

they'll need to find a replacement that could live up to that standard.
- dmnted

The Leafs entry/setup precedes Carbery though.

Bruce
There it is
- mr.sir

this is the way

at least the Leafs didnt go with the first name that popped up

Had no problem with Shanahan until that embarrassing press conference.

Time you jogged on now, Santo.
- GreatGigInTheSky

Same on the bolded part, that was embarrassing to watch as a Leafs fan and to Aaron's point IMO make MLSE look bush league. What professional organization feels then need to air that dirty laundry & do a blow by blow account of the negotiations?

I used to be quite happy with Shanny at the helm, I'm questioning everything about him now, 10 years with the same level of playoff success everyone seems to put at the feet of the players, coaches and GM - when does the big boss get held accountable to any degree?

What superstar player or potential new GM watched that pile of horse poop & thought "oh yes, I'd like my negotiations play out in the media"? I mean if Matthews doesn't resign and any part of that is a result of what he saw happen to Dubas Shanny needs to be fired into the sun.

Finally I have no feelings, or opinion on Santo jogging or not.

under threat of being sued.
- dmnted

Na, that was directed at Aaron (the threat) when he was a mod....he's not one anymore but the BS that Marwood keeps pulling here deserves him to get a very long vacation IMO.

This sucks. I didnt love all of Dubas's moves, but Treliving sucks. Im officially on the fire Shannahan bandwagon. Can anyone explain what Treliving does well? Literally he has failed in all aspects of being a GM.

Dubas is a 100 times better then Treliving.

This sucks. I didnt love all of Dubas's moves, but Treliving sucks. Im officially on the fire Shannahan bandwagon. Can anyone explain what Treliving does well? Literally he has failed in all aspects of being a GM.

Dubas is a 100 times better then Treliving.
- Archaic

He hired Bill Peters so he has that going for him…

at least the Leafs didnt go with the first name that popped up
- senstroll

Or, his name popped up because the Leafs were going for him

This sucks. I didnt love all of Dubas's moves, but Treliving sucks. Im officially on the fire Shannahan bandwagon. Can anyone explain what Treliving does well? Literally he has failed in all aspects of being a GM.

Dubas is a 100 times better then Treliving.
- Archaic

here is a decent breakdown

https://www.pensionplanpu...-leafs-gm-brad-treliving/

a pretty long list of meh. he had 5 or 6 coaches in 9 years

Verdict?
I can't help but look at this body of work and see tepid, mediocre moves with major disasters sprinkled in everywhere (multiple coaches, keeping RFAs). It's not a surprise the Flames had been a very middling team during his tenure on average.

nothing stands out to me to say, yes this is an improvement over Dubas

at least the Leafs didnt go with the first name that popped up
- senstroll

Or, his name popped up because the Leafs were going for him
- Canada Cup

oh great, thats worse
they had 1 person in mind the whole time

here is a decent breakdown

https://www.pensionplanpu...-leafs-gm-brad-treliving/

a pretty long list of meh. he had 5 or 6 coaches in 9 years



nothing stands out to me to say, yes this is an improvement over Dubas
- senstroll

Yep, I looked at all his previous stuff, what exactly has he ever done well? Nothing. I just cant believe this is the guy Shannahan thought was going to lead the Leafs to the cup. Id rather have just let Pridham stay as the GM.

here is a decent breakdown

https://www.pensionplanpu...-leafs-gm-brad-treliving/

a pretty long list of meh. he had 5 or 6 coaches in 9 years



nothing stands out to me to say, yes this is an improvement over Dubas
- senstroll

Oh this isn't an improvement.

Not a big fan of Treliving... Silver lining is that it could have been much worse.

here is a decent breakdown

https://www.pensionplanpu...-leafs-gm-brad-treliving/

a pretty long list of meh. he had 5 or 6 coaches in 9 years



nothing stands out to me to say, yes this is an improvement over Dubas
- senstroll

Not an improvement on Dubas but Treliving saves Shanny from himself taking the job in not being Chiarelli or Bergevin. Silver linings?

Oh this isn't an improvement.

Not a big fan of Treliving... Silver lining is that it could have been much worse.
- Scabeh

now we can wait for him to Trade AM and the leafs can miss the playoffs.

whoever gets Matthews then is guaranteed to go to the cup finals

Yep, I looked at all his previous stuff, what exactly has he ever done well? Nothing. I just cant believe this is the guy Shannahan thought was going to lead the Leafs to the cup. Id rather have just let Pridham stay as the GM.
- Archaic

really the only thing he has on dubas is he has done it longer? ..experience FTW!

really the only thing he has on dubas is he has done it longer? ..experience FTW!
- senstroll

You know who did it even longer?

Chuck Fletcher! THAT'S YOUR GUY!

Yep, I looked at all his previous stuff, what exactly has he ever done well? Nothing. I just cant believe this is the guy Shannahan thought was going to lead the Leafs to the cup. Id rather have just let Pridham stay as the GM.
- Archaic

also a much harder market to get people to sign

In Treliving we trust

He’s a brad mutha(frank)er

oh great, thats worse
they had 1 person in mind the whole time

- senstroll

Shanahan makes the hair of the Board happy. What’s to dislike? I don’t really care one way or another. He’s just a guy

also a much harder market to get people to sign
- drexel

Sure, but look at this trades and drafting....it all sucks. Again, what has he done well besides overpaying 3rd liners? poop didnt he trade Hamilton for poop all too? He literally sucks at everything.

The only trade he ever won was trading Rittich to the Leafs for a 3rd.