I'm pretty relaxed this morning. I'm sorry that you're interpreting tone deaf messages and texts differently.
- MattStrat

I don't know, seemed like you were reading what you wanted to see so you could come back at me.

Edit: Still not sure where I'm "casting shade on the Penguins." They're my second favorite team.

Agreed, both Reid and Briere may not be good parents, I don't know them personaly. I knew a few kids who did hard drugs in school, especially college, who had what I would consider generally good parents. But yeah, they may be poopty parents, not going to argue it could be the case.
- jmatchett383

At least they don’t pretend to be holier than thou like Tony Dungy.

Its a crazy league. TO is the type of situation where they could totally win a cup next year, or in the next few years, and it wouldn't shock me at all. As Pens fans we saw much better on paper rosters than the ones that won the B2B's fizzle out in the 1st two rounds, or swept in 3rd. Florida won the presidents trophy last season only to be swept in the 2nd round and needed the Pens to lose just to squeak into 8th this season. Nobody thought they were getting past Boston. Ovi and his caps didn't get one until he was 31 years old.

We now live in what have you done for me lately world, void of patience and respect. Not much retrospect, or introspect for that matter, on the go anymore, and the need for instant gratification just soars and soars.
- MattStrat

Boston PDO'd their way thru the regular season. Florida was a much better team 5v5.

Boston PDO'd their way thru the regular season. Florida was a much better team 5v5.
- Thunderbolt

Florida also lost a ton of man games, Boston was fairly healthy.

Not casting any shade on the Pens at all, and since the Penguins already have their big pieces in place, I think Dubas would be a good hire for where they are right now. Doesn't change the face that he's won 1 playoff series in 5 years.

The Flyers suck right now, and I have no idea if Briere will be a good or even competent GM or not. There's no way to compare Briere and Dubas as GMs right now, though.
- jmatchett383

Those big pieces are kinda useless when surrounded by immovable contracts.

Those big pieces are kinda useless when surrounded by immovable contracts.
- greenyone

True...but you hope that a competent GM comes in and moves out what he can to bring is some better pieces. I don't think Carter, Granlund, or Ruuta are moveable, but that's what you pay a GM for.

True...but you hope that a competent GM comes in and moves out what he can to bring is some better pieces. I don't think Carter, Granlund, or Ruuta are moveable, but that's what you pay a GM for.
- jmatchett383

Ruuta is moveable.

Granlund needs bought out (or maybe some team thinks he could be useful?)

Carter needs to be sweetened for someone to take him. And he had a NMC, I think. Lol.

I’d get rid of Petry is possible, too.

Would love for there to be an announcement today.

Ruuta is moveable.

Granlund needs bought out (or maybe some team thinks he could be useful?)

Carter needs to be sweetened for someone to take him. And he had a NMC, I think. Lol.

I’d get rid of Petry is possible, too.
- Brownsoldier

Who's going to take Ruuta at the salary? He was exposed last season as a player who benefitted from playing on a stacked TB team. I don't see a buyer.

You could buy Grandlund out if you're okay with an extra 2 years of $1.83M dead space.

Carter is...yeah, I don't know. Can't even bury him because of his NMC.

Petry is a maybe, and could actually fetch a decent if unspectacular return.

Ruuta is moveable.

Granlund needs bought out (or maybe some team thinks he could be useful?)

Carter needs to be sweetened for someone to take him. And he had a NMC, I think. Lol.

I’d get rid of Petry is possible, too.
- Brownsoldier

Someone mentioned our new GM would likely move down in the draft as a way to move contracts.

I think someone would take Ruuta with minimal assets given up.

For Granlund, I'd rather find a taker for him by eating $2.5M of his cap hit. I'd rather spend $2.5M for the next two years than $1.8M for the next 4 years.

Carter you'd have to buyout. He isnt accepting a trade anywhere plus no one would want him. He's an easy guy to buyout.

Id only move Petry if we have a better guy lined up. If you wanted to trade Petry and sign a guy like Dumba, fine. But Im not trading him for the sake of trading him, especially with no back up option.

Someone mentioned our new GM would likely move down in the draft as a way to move contracts.

I think someone would take Ruuta with minimal assets given up.

For Granlund, I'd rather find a taker for him by eating $2.5M of his cap hit. I'd rather spend $2.5M for the next two years than $1.8M for the next 4 years.

Carter you'd have to buyout. He isnt accepting a trade anywhere plus no one would want him. He's an easy guy to buyout.

Id only move Petry if we have a better guy lined up. If you wanted to trade Petry and sign a guy like Dumba, fine. But Im not trading him for the sake of trading him, especially with no back up option.
- SuperHenderson13

Carter is a 35+ contract. Buyout does nothing for the cap.

Boston PDO'd their way thru the regular season. Florida was a much better team 5v5.
- Thunderbolt

I dont agree and either do the stats.

At 5 on 5: Boston was 2nd in goals scored, 1st in goals against, 1st in team goal differential, 1st in xGF%, 9th in HDCF% and 8th in shots against.

At 5 on 5: Florida was 6th in goals scored, 12th in goals against, 6th in goal differential, 8th in xGF%, 10th in HDSC% and 12th in shots against.

"Much better?" Nope. Sure, the Bruins had a better team shooting % and sv% but that has nothing do with some of the other metrics of 5 on 5 here....and besides, the argument could be made that having better shooting and sv% at 5 on 5...would make them better at 5 on 5, anyway hahah

Florida had a load of injuries in first half, Boston did in second half, but overall theres not a massive difference in totals.

I dont agree and either do the stats.

At 5 on 5: Boston Boston was 2nd in goals scored, 1st in goals against, 1st in team goal differential, 1st in xGF%, 9th in HDCF% and 8th in shots against.

At 5 on 5: Florida was 6th in goals scored, 12th in goals against, 6th in goal differential, 8th in xGF%, 10th in HDSC% and 12th in shots against.

"Much better?" Nope. Sure, they had a better team shooting % and sv% but that has nothing do with some of the other metrics of 5 on 5 here....and besides, the argument could be made that having better shooting and sv% at 5 on 5...would make them better at 5 on 5, anyway hahah

Florida had a load of injuries in first half, Boston did in second half.
- MattStrat

Crazy that Florida was literally a minute away from being taken out, and now they're in the Finals.

Crazy that Florida was literally a minute away from being taken out, and now they're in the Finals.
- jmatchett383

It really is.

Who's going to take Ruuta at the salary? He was exposed last season as a player who benefitted from playing on a stacked TB team. I don't see a buyer.

You could buy Grandlund out if you're okay with an extra 2 years of $1.83M dead space.

Carter is...yeah, I don't know. Can't even bury him because of his NMC.

Petry is a maybe, and could actually fetch a decent if unspectacular return.
- jmatchett383

Rutta is probably moveable. 2.75m per year isn't that much for a veteran 2-time Stanley Cup champion bottom pairing defenseman. It's not as much of an albatross.

If they are unable to find a taker for Granlund, I think you absolutely buy him out. Dead space sucks, but he sucks more than dead cap space.

Who's going to take Ruuta at the salary? He was exposed last season as a player who benefitted from playing on a stacked TB team. I don't see a buyer.

You could buy Grandlund out if you're okay with an extra 2 years of $1.83M dead space.

Carter is...yeah, I don't know. Can't even bury him because of his NMC.

Petry is a maybe, and could actually fetch a decent if unspectacular return.
- jmatchett383

Ruuta was injured for a good bit of time and he has plenty of top pairing minutes on his resume. His cap isn’t AWFUL but it is over what I think his value is. Jack Johnson gets signed like every offseason. I’m confident he is moveable.

Yeah Carter is the 35+ contract that you can’t buyout… maybe trade Petry for whatever assets possible, add those to a Granlund sweetener and maybe you’re out? It’ll take some black magic to get out of some of these contracts.

Rutta is probably moveable. 2.75m per year isn't that much for a veteran 2-time Stanley Cup champion bottom pairing defenseman. It's not as much of an albatross.

If they are unable to find a taker for Granlund, I think you absolutely buy him out. Dead space sucks, but he sucks more than dead cap space.
- j.boyd919

Agreed^^

Ruuta was injured for a good bit of time and he has plenty of top pairing minutes on his resume. His cap isn’t AWFUL but it is over what I think his value is. Jack Johnson gets signed like every offseason. I’m confident he is moveable.

Yeah Carter is the 35+ contract that you can’t buyout… maybe trade Petry for whatever assets possible, add those to a Granlund sweetener and maybe you’re out? It’ll take some black magic to get out of some of these contracts.
- Brownsoldier

In the exercise below, the Pens could definitely build a better, competitive team through buying out Granlund and 1 trade (Rutta as a cap dump)

https://www.capfriendly.c...ad/710865?post_id=4077957

All players were signed via FA. Zucker took a little discount which may be too low, but that doesn't change the fact that the exercise proves the Pens can build a good team without having to wheel and deal all these players.

Maybe you go cheaper on a different 3rd line RW instead of AA so you can bring in a more reliable cheap vet 3RD

But the Pens have options.

Ruuta was injured for a good bit of time and he has plenty of top pairing minutes on his resume. His cap isn’t AWFUL but it is over what I think his value is. Jack Johnson gets signed like every offseason. I’m confident he is moveable.

Yeah Carter is the 35+ contract that you can’t buyout… maybe trade Petry for whatever assets possible, add those to a Granlund sweetener and maybe you’re out? It’ll take some black magic to get out of some of these contracts.
- Brownsoldier

I'm in the keep Petry camp. He wasnt as bad as many made him out to be...and he wasnt as good as 6+ mill, either. However, good RD's are one of the harder pieces to obtain. I think its possible, if he stays healthy, you see a better season out of him next year. The guy did have like 15-20 game stretches as almost a PPG, as a D-man. He was good in front of our goalies a lot of nights, not all, and he hit like 3x more than any other Pen's D-man. Has a bit of snarl to his game and some offense punch.

In the exercise below, the Pens could definitely build a better, competitive team through buying out Granlund and 1 trade (Rutta as a cap dump)

https://www.capfriendly.c...ad/710865?post_id=4077957

All players were signed via FA. Zucker took a little discount which may be too low, but that doesn't change the fact that the exercise proves the Pens can build a good team without having to wheel and deal all these players.

Maybe you go cheaper on a different 3rd line RW instead of AA so you can bring in a more reliable cheap vet 3RD

But the Pens have options.
- j.boyd919

Man, I'd f'n love it if this was the opening night roster hahaha

Madden claims to have some Dubas scoop at 3pm on his show today. I cant listen today so Im curious what it is. The longer this goes on, the less likely we get him IMO.

Madden claims to have some Dubas scoop at 3pm on his show today. I cant listen today so Im curious what it is. The longer this goes on, the less likely we get him IMO.
- SuperHenderson13

Yeah, I had this thought over the weekend too.

Man, I'd f'n love it if this was the opening night roster hahaha
- MattStrat

And you can likely swap out Barbashev for like Compher or something else for 3C. Swap out AA for a vet RD to play with Smith, and this isn't even before trying to trade anyone... because they really don't have to, to put together a decent roster. I'd prefer to move on from Petry but he was fine last year. Take his PP time away from what he got in MTL and he was producing decently.

Madden claims to have some Dubas scoop at 3pm on his show today. I cant listen today so Im curious what it is. The longer this goes on, the less likely we get him IMO.
- SuperHenderson13

Can anyone tune in? I can’t listen either.

Can anyone tune in? I can’t listen either.
- Brownsoldier

MM
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