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ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

May 27 @ 9:39 AM ET
How do we know there is nothing wrong with the current analytics department? What is the evidence of that. It is their responsibility to develop and provide data that would convince end users that changes need to be made. If the Flyers are basing what data they generate on the end users requests. They're doing it wrong.
- MJL

This might be my favorite post on FlyersBuzz, the arrogance is unmatched šŸ˜‚. The guy claiming dinosaurs are running the show. Why in the world would those ā€œDinosaursā€ use any beneficial data from a new age process. You think your boy Bill Barber cares about expected goals?
THE EVIL WITHIN
Location: NJ
Joined: 11.20.2017

May 27 @ 10:14 AM ET
Laughton šŸ˜† with the empty neter
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

May 27 @ 10:29 AM ET
This might be my favorite post on FlyersBuzz, the arrogance is unmatched šŸ˜‚. The guy claiming dinosaurs are running the show. Why in the world would those ā€œDinosaursā€ use any beneficial data from a new age process. You think your boy Bill Barber cares about expected goals?
- ClaudeFather

Good question....they wont more than likely which has been said by some several times

headed up CT way this weekend. Migh t be my last frankk pepe pizza!!!
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

May 27 @ 10:30 AM ET
Laughton šŸ˜† with the empty neter
- THE EVIL WITHIN

cant trade him now. key core piece moving forward for the "rebuild"
ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

May 27 @ 10:34 AM ET
Good question....they wont more than likely which has been said by some several times

headed up CT way this weekend. Migh t be my last frankk pepe pizza!!!

- hello it's me 2050

Enjoy! New Haven, the pizza capital of the world . Sallys Pepeā€™s Modern, all top tier pie
Sinisalo4vr
Location: Dont f with the Jesus, PA
Joined: 06.24.2016

May 27 @ 10:35 AM ET
Good question....they wont more than likely which has been said by some several times

headed up CT way this weekend. Migh t be my last frankk pepe pizza!!!

- hello it's me 2050

Have fun on the Merritt.
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

May 27 @ 10:45 AM ET
Have fun on the Merritt.
- Sinisalo4vr

lol....fn insane how much of a parking lot that turns into. Fn CT drivers are terrible.

holiday weekend to boot.

might also be my last visit to Katz deii. Corn beef is excellent as I always stop bring a few pounds home.

maps telling me 4 hours 15 minutes...
Don Nachbaur
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.01.2021

May 27 @ 11:16 AM ET
I can see it now. The Flyers draft this guy with the 7th pick in the draft and he never sets foot on North American soil, and all the people pleading to take him with this pick complain that they took him with that #7 pick. Can't make this stuff up!

- Phillywhiteout



Yep, and with the the Flyers luck, this could actually happen!
Don Nachbaur
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.01.2021

May 27 @ 11:31 AM ET
This might be my favorite post on FlyersBuzz, the arrogance is unmatched šŸ˜‚. The guy claiming dinosaurs are running the show. Why in the world would those ā€œDinosaursā€ use any beneficial data from a new age process. You think your boy Bill Barber cares about expected goals?
- ClaudeFather


Lol I can see the dinosaurs right now perusing the date and discussing analytics as they prepare for the draft.
Don Nachbaur
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.01.2021

May 27 @ 11:31 AM ET
Good question....they wont more than likely which has been said by some several times

headed up CT way this weekend. Migh t be my last frankk pepe pizza!!!

- hello it's me 2050


Nice! Safe travels!
Dkos
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Gritty, PA
Joined: 01.15.2007

May 27 @ 1:08 PM ET
lol....fn insane how much of a parking lot that turns into. Fn CT drivers are terrible.

holiday weekend to boot.

might also be my last visit to Katz deii. Corn beef is excellent as I always stop bring a few pounds home.

maps telling me 4 hours 15 minutes...

- hello it's me 2050


Why is it the last time?
rayc16
Joined: 06.29.2006

May 27 @ 2:25 PM ET
lol....fn insane how much of a parking lot that turns into. Fn CT drivers are terrible.

holiday weekend to boot.

might also be my last visit to Katz deii. Corn beef is excellent as I always stop bring a few pounds home.

maps telling me 4 hours 15 minutes...

- hello it's me 2050

50% of the drivers here aren't even from CT. Go one more state north and those are the worst drivers. Mass holes.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

May 27 @ 2:40 PM ET
This might be my favorite post on FlyersBuzz, the arrogance is unmatched šŸ˜‚. The guy claiming dinosaurs are running the show. Why in the world would those ā€œDinosaursā€ use any beneficial data from a new age process. You think your boy Bill Barber cares about expected goals?
- ClaudeFather


The so called arrogance that you claim is unmatched is far exceeded by the stupidity and childness of your reply. You still don't get it that there have been no claims that Barber, Clarke, Holmgren etc, are running the show.
Bob Habib
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.01.2020

May 27 @ 3:12 PM ET
To be fair isn't that what the Flyers are missing...another winger playing out of position who may or may not bring scoring? Maybe the Flyers can play a new system, the right wing trap...overload the side and keep the rest of the ice empty. We do it on defense, why not forward too.
- Glak18

I won't disagree with any of this. I honestly don't see rhyme or reason why this franchise does the things that it does, from top to bottom.
Bob Habib
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.01.2020

May 27 @ 3:14 PM ET
I can see it now. The Flyers draft this guy with the 7th pick in the draft and he never sets foot on North American soil, and all the people pleading to take him with this pick complain that they took him with that #7 pick. Can't make this stuff up!

- Phillywhiteout

We will have people on here complain no matter what. We could win the Stanley Cup one year and people would female dog that we won it in 6 ganes instead of 5 games.
Lots of basement dwelling unhappy mofos in here
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

May 27 @ 3:24 PM ET
We will have people on here complain no matter what. We could win the Stanley Cup one year and people would female dog that we won it in 6 ganes instead of 5 games.
Lots of basement dwelling unhappy mofos in here

- Bob Habib



I can say with complete confidence that 98% of the complaining would go away if the Flyers win the Cup. Whether it's in 5,6 or 7 games.
PT21
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: ęœØē³ åøƒäø, PA
Joined: 03.04.2008

May 27 @ 3:53 PM ET
Ordinary Russians, dissidents, etc are still able to find a way out under the present conditions. Michkov has a higher profile (and undoubtedly people will be watching him) but where there's a will (and money), there's a way. Probably easiest would be when SKA travels to Minsk during the KHL season, where he'll be a short drive away from a friendly NATO border.

Ofc that's assuming he wants to play in the NHL that badly.

- Tomahawk


Hmmm ...it sort of depends on the scale of their dissidence.

https://data.ovdinfo.org/...time-repressions-report#4


It might not be just the issue of managing to get him over. Multiple possibilities of attritional aggravation by Kremlin after that. Suppose:

1. He comes over, does well, US-Russia relationships worsen further and suddenly, there are 'irregularities' found in his papers causing him to be detained in Russia over xmas break and miss parts of season.

2. He gives a statement not supportive enough of Putin/Orthodox Church. Family back home harassed, his play goes south.

3. He is too supportive of Putin/not critical enough: he is booed at different arenas/questioned by journalists repeatedly, pressure takes a toll, play dives.

4. Sister/cousin/close relative joins dissident group (unrelated to Michkov). Jailed. Mitvai decides he needs to be closer to home to support them and prevent endless hassle of travel bac and forth.

Don't use the time period post 1989 Mogilny to extrapolate to present. Things are far worse now, and will likely get much more bad in the short to intermediate future.

You mentioned that no family lines are being extinguished. But there has been at least 1 report that Michkov's dad was trying to get his son out of the KHL 3 year gig to come over faster when he suddenly died.

Indeed, there are usually 3-4 mysterious high profile deaths involving Russians during a given year.

Now there are many, many more.

EDIT: For xmas, sub any break. Summer/all star etc etc
wcorvette
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Boynton Beach, FL
Joined: 10.03.2010

May 27 @ 4:10 PM ET
At least he is saying the right thingā€¦


https://www.nbcsports.com/philadelphia/flyers
jjonah
Location: winnipeg, MB
Joined: 03.25.2013

May 27 @ 4:18 PM ET
Is Dave Brown a legitimate Head of scouting? Judge of talent?

Seems like the Flyers wonā€™t leave the model of all ex-players are welcome in the key positions
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

May 27 @ 4:28 PM ET
Is Dave Brown a legitimate Head of scouting? Judge of talent?

Seems like the Flyers wonā€™t leave the model of all ex-players are welcome in the key positions

- jjonah


I'd just add that Dave Brown is the head of pro scouting. Not all of scouting.
jjonah
Location: winnipeg, MB
Joined: 03.25.2013

May 27 @ 4:33 PM ET
Correct left that outā€¦.Iā€™m a big Flyers fans but the loyalty/chrony-ism seems problematic.

The Oilers did it for 20+ years and it did not work. Ex players are not magically the best person for a job on your team
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

May 27 @ 4:33 PM ET
At least he is saying the right thingā€¦


https://www.nbcsports.com/philadelphia/flyers

- wcorvette



There is plenty in that article that I don't agree with. Especially this.

"Today, you saw on the hockey side, you saw Keith and you saw Torts, but there's more than that. Our staff, everybody's going to have their say and at the end of the day, we're going to discuss and the three of us are going to find a way to get to the best answer or the best solution when it comes down to it. I couldn't feel better about it. I'm really ecstatic."
Bob Habib
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.01.2020

May 27 @ 4:41 PM ET
50% of the drivers here aren't even from CT. Go one more state north and those are the worst drivers. Mass holes.
- rayc16

New Jersey and Florida drivers are the worst. I live in Nashville and this is q culmination of the worst drivers in the country all moving to the same place.
My road rage is off the charts here šŸ¤·
Bob Habib
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.01.2020

May 27 @ 4:42 PM ET
I can say with complete confidence that 98% of the complaining would go away if the Flyers win the Cup. Whether it's in 5,6 or 7 games.
- MJL

I wish I had the faith that you have. I won't mention names but I csn see several people still complaining about something irrelevant one way or another. Lol
Minnyhock
Minnesota Wild
Joined: 06.26.2021

May 27 @ 5:42 PM ET
New Jersey and Florida drivers are the worst. I live in Nashville and this is q culmination of the worst drivers in the country all moving to the same place.
My road rage is off the charts here šŸ¤·

- Bob Habib


Minnesota drivers arenā€™t too bad since they get a lot of driving in the elements. California is really bad. But the worst for me is Oregon. Everybody drives the speed limit. When you donā€™t, the other drivers work together to force compliance.
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