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dozerD10
Anaheim Ducks
Location: long beach, CA
Joined: 01.29.2014

May 25 @ 9:04 PM ET
nice hand on Robertson on that PP goal for Dallas to tie it up
- dmnted


I would trade 2OA for him straight up today… he’s really really good.

And I love Fantilli … but it would be worth it -

JR / McTavish / Terry …. 1st line .. yeah that works -
Arctic_AARDVARK
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Retired, ON
Joined: 07.24.2011

May 25 @ 9:08 PM ET
No way he's making 10M on his next contract. It's hilarious that you hate him so much, but put him into top tier salary.
- gravyface

No.

He’ll think he deserves “top tier salary.”

I think he’s a $6 million player because he’s got zero bite and defensive awareness.
BluesDroogie
St Louis Blues
Location: St. Louis, MO
Joined: 06.12.2014

May 25 @ 9:12 PM ET
How does Doug Armstrong keep coming up. He is under contract with 3 first round picks this draft
The Law
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 01.29.2008

May 25 @ 9:16 PM ET
If I am incorrect, which I said I could be, then the wording in the CBA is poorly worded calling it multiple years, including all bonuses, salaries and etc. It's all pluralized.
- Aaron_85


https://theathletic.com/3...22/08/09/nhl-arbitration/

Here's a full piece on how arb works. Pretty well written and it's a Q n A with Tulsky explaining how arb works.

Also - I didn't want to bore with the details but there's 2 types of arb.

1. Team elected - no QO .....arb is awarded and must be no less than 85% of previous years salary (inclusive of bonuses); or
2. Player elected - no 85% rule on this one b/c team must have issued Q.O.

Lots of nuances but for Sammy Leafs will qualify him at 1.8M and then he'll either file for arb. They'll settle for a 1 or 2 yr deal or go to arb and he'll get atleast 1.8M (but really he'll get what the Leafs offered or what he requested or something in between). Leafs will offer more than the 1.8M b/c the precedents out there are greater than that.
The Law
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 01.29.2008

May 25 @ 9:18 PM ET
How does Doug Armstrong keep coming up. He is under contract with 3 first round picks this draft
- BluesDroogie


All things relate back to the centre of the hockey universe.

Enjoy the ride.
The Law
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 01.29.2008

May 25 @ 9:20 PM ET
No.

He’ll think he deserves “top tier salary.”

I think he’s a $6 million player because he’s got zero bite and defensive awareness.

- Arctic_AARDVARK


Sounds like we're all on the same page ...sort of ...lets offer 88 8.5M per. If he takes it ..great. If he comes back and says it's 8x10M then we take him to market.
dmnted
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Space for Rent
Joined: 08.30.2006

May 25 @ 9:32 PM ET
If I am incorrect, which I said I could be, then the wording in the CBA is poorly worded calling it multiple years, including all bonuses, salaries and etc. It's all pluralized.
- Aaron_85

its either 1 or 2 years deal if the arbitrator makes a decision on the contract.
now the team and player can still come to terms on a contract on their own prior to the arbitrator's ruling.
Arctic_AARDVARK
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Retired, ON
Joined: 07.24.2011

May 25 @ 9:34 PM ET
Sounds like we're all on the same page ...sort of ...lets offer 88 8.5M per. If he takes it ..great. If he comes back and says it's 8x10M then we take him to market.
- The Law

dmnted
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Space for Rent
Joined: 08.30.2006

May 25 @ 9:35 PM ET
I would trade 2OA for him straight up today… he’s really really good.

And I love Fantilli … but it would be worth it -

someone / Matthews / Terry …. 1st line .. yeah that works -

- dozerD10

cause McTavish and the 2OA would be Leafs


THE EVIL WITHIN
Location: NJ
Joined: 11.20.2017

May 25 @ 9:37 PM ET
Tree 🌳 living will be another 4 eyed GM. 🤓 🤓 🤓
dmnted
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Space for Rent
Joined: 08.30.2006

May 25 @ 9:37 PM ET
Sounds like we're all on the same page ...sort of ...lets offer 88 8.5M per. If he takes it ..great. If he comes back and says it's 8x10M then we take him to market.
- The Law

i concur
jribout
Season Ticket Holder
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 01.24.2011

May 25 @ 9:42 PM ET
No wonder I would be a poopty GM. I only learned today players get paid what they think they deserve when they reach UFA/
dmnted
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Space for Rent
Joined: 08.30.2006

May 25 @ 9:43 PM ET
Robertson ties this game up , again !!!
dozerD10
Anaheim Ducks
Location: long beach, CA
Joined: 01.29.2014

May 25 @ 9:47 PM ET
cause McTavish and the 2OA would be Leafs



- dmnted


Ohhhhhh… that’s really tempting….
dozerD10
Anaheim Ducks
Location: long beach, CA
Joined: 01.29.2014

May 25 @ 9:48 PM ET
Robertson ties this game up , again !!!
- dmnted


He’s pretty good…
Tee-Dot
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: For being Stee's alternate personality or being associated with M. Night Shyamalan?
Joined: 12.11.2008

May 25 @ 10:08 PM ET
Dude?! I thought you had testicles?
dmnted
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Space for Rent
Joined: 08.30.2006

May 25 @ 10:27 PM ET
Dude?! I thought you had testicles?
- Tee-Dot




have they even dropped yet ?
Canada Cup
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Not here to sell jerseys , ON
Joined: 07.06.2007

May 25 @ 10:47 PM ET
the awards, like Georgiev's, are based on their performance and resume. Nobody believed he would be awarded 700k. They have precedents that they negotiate off of. For Sammy, as I said, the speculation is that he's about 3M x 2 or maybe a little less if it's a 1 yr offer.

Sammy + Woll is better than Sammy + Murray was where this all started.

- The Law

I don’t think Georgiev ever got to arbitration. The $3.5 or whatever he got was negotiated with the Avs. The big majority of players that file for arbitration end up with a negotiated deal. When teams are tight to the cap and the player has binding arbitration rights, teams might be more willing to settle to avoid getting stuck with an award they can’t really afford.
Canada Cup
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Not here to sell jerseys , ON
Joined: 07.06.2007

May 25 @ 10:49 PM ET
No wonder I would be a poopty GM. I only learned today players get paid what they think they deserve when they reach UFA/
- jribout

That might just be Leaf players. I’d be a good GM because I don’t give a poop if my family has to put up with a lot of stress. (frank) ‘em.
Azuredoom
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 01.14.2019

May 25 @ 11:16 PM ET
We are going to get stuck with Treliving
joel878
Joined: 06.13.2009

May 25 @ 11:21 PM ET
It’s the white claws and burgers on the grill that are making me feel good.
- Arctic_AARDVARK


Nice drink, does it come in men's. 🫣
BluesDroogie
St Louis Blues
Location: St. Louis, MO
Joined: 06.12.2014

May 25 @ 11:40 PM ET
All things relate back to the centre of the hockey universe.

Enjoy the ride.

- The Law



In the best Frank Costanza voice
“What the hell does that mean?” Ha ha
BluesDroogie
St Louis Blues
Location: St. Louis, MO
Joined: 06.12.2014

May 25 @ 11:42 PM ET
All things relate back to the centre of the hockey universe.

Enjoy the ride.

- The Law

If you are saying Toronto is the hockey Mecca, doesn’t Montreal own those rights. Weren’t they a team before the St Pats? The Maroons maybe Or Ottawa with the silver 7
BluesDroogie
St Louis Blues
Location: St. Louis, MO
Joined: 06.12.2014

May 25 @ 11:44 PM ET
I liked being in the same division as you guys 30 some odd years ago
MaximusAurelius
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: #FireDubas
Joined: 04.23.2012

May 26 @ 4:58 AM ET
remember when last 2-3 years I suggested to trade Nylander for Roope Hintz and all you 'experts' were mocking that suggestion?

UPDATE: Nylander continues to float and disappear during the important games - Hintz in the meantime is leading the league in playoff points and has been a huge contributor the the Stars' current playoff run.





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