I favour Botterill....Jennifer that is

Add in Chuck Fletcher for the trifecta
- Aaron_85

Hextall and Burke.

Hextall and Burke.
- jfkst1

It’s going to be their former captain Phaneuf and that’s why Spezza quit



https://www.hockeyfights.com/fights/63020

Sorry, I should have qualified that:

I wonder if his offensive stats would be Art Ross-able.
- mjones242

If we traded Marner and his destination team had 2 other legitimate first line players, he would absolutely rip the league apart. Look right now he put up 99 points (arguably 100 since that kick of the puck wouldn't have been possession enough to stop play on a delayed penalty call) and everyone knows Marner is the puck carrier to enter the zone and he's looking for Matthews. Bunting? (frank) that guy. Who cares! Marner isn't looking for Bunting.

But if he had a left winger and centre who were both legitimately good and threats to score or make good give'n'go plays . . . . that's the insulation Marner would need to truly succeed. As it is you can almost throw three guys at the two and overwhelm them. I mean Bunting wasn't a stump on skates, and he creates his fair share of chaos and Marner and Matthews use the points very well, so I'm simplifying, but imagine if Marner had two threats he could distribute the puck to instead of one?

If we traded Marner and his destination team had 2 other legitimate first line players, he would absolutely rip the league apart. Look right now he put up 99 points (arguably 100 since that kick of the puck wouldn't have been possession enough to stop play on a delayed penalty call) and everyone knows Marner is the puck carrier to enter the zone and he's looking for Matthews. Bunting? (frank) that guy. Who cares! Marner isn't looking for Bunting.

But if he had a left winger and centre who were both legitimately good and threats to score or make good give'n'go plays . . . . that's the insulation Marner would need to truly succeed. As it is you can almost throw three guys at the two and overwhelm them. I mean Bunting wasn't a stump on skates, and he creates his fair share of chaos and Marner and Matthews use the points very well, so I'm simplifying, but imagine if Marner had two threats he could distribute the puck to instead of one?
- Monkeypunk

That “other” team could quite easily be the Leafs

If we traded Marner and his destination team had 2 other legitimate first line players, he would absolutely rip the league apart. Look right now he put up 99 points (arguably 100 since that kick of the puck wouldn't have been possession enough to stop play on a delayed penalty call) and everyone knows Marner is the puck carrier to enter the zone and he's looking for Matthews. Bunting? (frank) that guy. Who cares! Marner isn't looking for Bunting.

But if he had a left winger and centre who were both legitimately good and threats to score or make good give'n'go plays . . . . that's the insulation Marner would need to truly succeed. As it is you can almost throw three guys at the two and overwhelm them. I mean Bunting wasn't a stump on skates, and he creates his fair share of chaos and Marner and Matthews use the points very well, so I'm simplifying, but imagine if Marner had two threats he could distribute the puck to instead of one?
- Monkeypunk

Marner is the guy I'd be looking to move - for a high end stud D.

Frank Seravalli
@frank_seravalli
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10m
As the process to find next #LeafsForever GM gets moving, I'd expect Toronto to interview at a minimum Jason Botterill, Marc Bergevin, Brad Treliving and Peter Chiarelli - if they haven't already.

Four names to chew on in TO.

@DailyFaceoff
- gravyface

Well...at least it isn't John Chayka.

That “other” team could quite easily be the Leafs
- Canada Cup

Marner's played on very good lines before, and besides, it's rare for a team to stack a line for long periods of time, outside of maybe Bergeron/Pasta/Marchand.

Peter Chiarelli

Peter Chiarelli
- senstroll

wut about Ceter Phiarelli

Should have traded MArner for Eichel

Should have traded MArner for Eichel
- senstroll

All day every day.

I'm waiting for Samsonov (signed), Marner for PLD and Helly, 2nd.

All day every day.

I'm waiting for Samsonov (signed), Marner for PLD and Helly, 2nd.
- gravyface

Meh.

Dubois is going to MTL the first chance he gets..

All day every day.

I'm waiting for Samsonov (signed), Marner for PLD and Helly, 2nd.
- gravyface

for the record...I suggested that a few weeks ago

are you following me?

Peter Chiarelli
- senstroll

he's the guy I am hoping for

Should have traded MArner for Eichel
- senstroll

If this was ever on the table, you make that trade 10 times out of 10.

If we traded Marner and his destination team had 2 other legitimate first line players, he would absolutely rip the league apart. Look right now he put up 99 points (arguably 100 since that kick of the puck wouldn't have been possession enough to stop play on a delayed penalty call) and everyone knows Marner is the puck carrier to enter the zone and he's looking for Matthews. Bunting? (frank) that guy. Who cares! Marner isn't looking for Bunting.

But if he had a left winger and centre who were both legitimately good and threats to score or make good give'n'go plays . . . . that's the insulation Marner would need to truly succeed. As it is you can almost throw three guys at the two and overwhelm them. I mean Bunting wasn't a stump on skates, and he creates his fair share of chaos and Marner and Matthews use the points very well, so I'm simplifying, but imagine if Marner had two threats he could distribute the puck to instead of one?
- Monkeypunk

Remember when he was a rookie and he was playing with JVR and Bozak and got 60 points?

I might slip my dawg into that pile; bet you don't notice.
- gravyface

Oh wait, I should have said I would notice because one tastes better than the rest

You Marner traders make me shudder.

If we traded Marner and his destination team had 2 other legitimate first line players, he would absolutely rip the league apart. Look right now he put up 99 points (arguably 100 since that kick of the puck wouldn't have been possession enough to stop play on a delayed penalty call) and everyone knows Marner is the puck carrier to enter the zone and he's looking for Matthews. Bunting? (frank) that guy. Who cares! Marner isn't looking for Bunting.

But if he had a left winger and centre who were both legitimately good and threats to score or make good give'n'go plays . . . . that's the insulation Marner would need to truly succeed. As it is you can almost throw three guys at the two and overwhelm them. I mean Bunting wasn't a stump on skates, and he creates his fair share of chaos and Marner and Matthews use the points very well, so I'm simplifying, but imagine if Marner had two threats he could distribute the puck to instead of one?
- Monkeypunk

Sounds like JT and Knies are both top6 LW's next year. Not really the model PF but few better then JT at snagging garbage at the net front.

You Marner traders make me shudder.
- Zezel

Marner playing in an elimination game makes me shudder

McTavish, Drysdale and 2nd over all for Matthews and Nick Robertson.

Who says no?
- .HOHO.

Fixed it - now we’re talking -
- dozerD10

Ok… no Knies. How about Nicky Bobby? 🤷🏼‍♂️

Remember when he was a rookie and he was playing with JVR and Bozak and got 60 points?
- Zezel

Sure. Noting that as gravy said as well - Marner has had two good players with him before, but players grow and mature and get better as well.

Marner is an excellent player. I don't really want him to go anywhere. I don't want Nylander or Matthews to go either. The ideal choice for me is JT - but only because he's desperately overpaid - and that's not going to happen. Frankly I don't think the Leafs have done enough to insulate him in the playoffs.

This isn't to suggest that he isn't a stellar player on his own, but when the playoffs come and you can grab guys, hold guys and haul guys down with a significant amount of impunity, the smaller guys in the league suffer. It's why Chicago put Kane with 2 200lb players (he put up most of his points on the PP, but at 5v5 he was successful with a mixture of Saad, Richards, Toews and Bickell (215, 200, 200 and 225lbs, respectively). Kane is a future hall of fame player and is often compared to Marner - but similarly in the playoffs some insulation for the smaller guys is necessary to create that space they need to be elite.

The new guy has a lot of figuring to do, I'll say that.

The FDA has approved Elon Musk’s brain chip company, Neuralink, to launch its first human clinical study.

well for the people that love musk and would do this, they are going to have to implant a brain also

Frank Seravalli
@frank_seravalli
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10m
As the process to find next #LeafsForever GM gets moving, I'd expect Toronto to interview at a minimum Jason Botterill, Marc Bergevin, Brad Treliving and Peter Chiarelli - if they haven't already.

Four names to chew on in TO.

@DailyFaceoff
- gravyface

Oh (frank) 🤮