I agree there is more to broadcasting than just showing up for the game, but that still doesn't mean Jonesy isn't prepping for his job with the Flyers. He might end up being terrible but it's a bit premature with the suggestions that he's not taking the job seriously.
- Don Nachbaur

Jonesy could probably do his job for the Flyers at home, on a laptop and wearing an open bathrobe with nothing underneath.

This on going argument is dumb.

Be careful by saying Carter Hart isn’t a franchise goalie. Maybe he isn’t but did we think Bob was a franchise goalie before we traded him?
- SuperSchennBros

Csn you please point out where I said that in any comment ever. I'll wait. Thanks.
Also, I was a huge fan of bobs and thought we screwed the pooch with the goalie that we chose as our starter.
I never thought bruz was awful, I saw him play against nashville while in AZ and thought he looked good but I was a huge bobs fan. As usual, the flyers brass screwed that up as well.
But back to the original sentence, when have I ever talked bad about Hart. I am also a fan of his and with better D in front of him his numbers would be even better. I gone they don't screw it up and trade him...unless the price is too good to say no to

Jonesy could probably do his job for the Flyers at home, on a laptop and wearing an open bathrobe with nothing underneath.

This on going argument is dumb.
- SuperSchennBros

LOL! People might be right and Danny B and Torts might end up running the show, but we don't know that yet. No need to panic and be furious about the unknown. Now if we see Chuckles-esque moves this summer, I will start to worry a bit.

Yes, that's my take. This is the time that all broadcasters would obviously look forward to all season. Once the season is over that is a whole different story. If Jonesy wasn't a former Flyer, perhaps he'd get more slack.
- Don Nachbaur

If this part of the season is that important to Jones as a broadcaster. He had the choice of remaining a broadcaster and not taking the Flyers position.

I agree there is more to broadcasting than just showing up for the game, but that still doesn't mean Jonesy isn't prepping for his job with the Flyers. He might end up being terrible but it's a bit premature with the suggestions that he's not taking the job seriously.
- Don Nachbaur

He shouldn't be prepping for the job. He should be doing the job full time with 100% dedication to it.

Csn you please point out where I said that in any comment ever. I'll wait. Thanks.
Also, I was a huge fan of bobs and thought we screwed the pooch with the goalie that we chose as our starter.
I never thought bruz was awful, I saw him play against nashville while in AZ and thought he looked good but I was a huge bobs fan. As usual, the flyers brass screwed that up as well.
But back to the original sentence, when have I ever talked bad about Hart. I am also a fan of his and with better D in front of him his numbers would be even better. I gone they don't screw it up and trade him...unless the price is too good to say no to
- Bob Habib

Jesus Christ.

I never said that you said anything along these line, so can we keep the sensitivity to a minimum? Bob is a former Flyer who we didn’t see as a franchise goalie, so we shipped him out. Hart might be next. This isn’t all I’m saying…

He shouldn't be prepping for the job. He should be doing the job full time with 100% dedication to it.
- MJL

Well since you won’t answer my post, maybe someone else can. What’s 100% dedication mean to be President of Hockey operations? He’s currently calling the game. If he wasn’t calling the game, what else should he be doing in dedication to his new position?

Danny Briere doesn’t have a second job, what do you think he’s doing right now at 10:08pm on May 24th 2023?

Someone help me out.

If this part of the season is that important to Jones as a broadcaster. He had the choice of remaining a broadcaster and not taking the Flyers position.
- MJL

Sorry, but he already had the broadcaster position and another job opportunity came up. I didn't realize people were not allowed to make decisions about their own careers without thinking of others first. If he committed to the job several months ago, there is no reason why he shouldn't fulfill his obligations. I know there are other broadcasters out there, but if TNT was counting on him to do the games, Jonesy should be doing the games. I guess Jonesy should've checked here on HB to see if it was ok for him to accept a new job.

He shouldn't be prepping for the job. He should be doing the job full time with 100% dedication to it.
- MJL

Obviously you know more than anyone, but can you confirm that Jonesy was told he should drop his job immediately despite his previous commitments? I know the Flyers are a mess, but I think they would understand that Jones had a job already and would let him finish his commitments to that job. If they wanted him that bad, I assume they'd realize that he would finish his previous job first. There are also these things called contracts - I have no idea of Jonesy's status with TNT, etc, but I assume he has some type of contract.

Could we have yet another OT in this series?

Are you kidding me??? Panthers with the series winner with 4.3 seconds left in the game.

Edit : Bob let's in 6 goals total for the entire series.

Of course you did. You said he spends the majority of the day in zoom meetings in his capacity as the Flyers POHO, prepping for draft/FA and then is between the benches in the evening.
- MJL

And from my comment, you came to the conclusion he spends a majority of the day in pre-production meetings, making it unlikely he's fulfilling any PoHO duties?

I'm not saying I'm correct, but there are more than enough hours in the day for him to do both for the short-term.

Yesterday @ 10:56 PM ET
As much as I want to see Vegas win being a Raider fan so that city has something to be happy about, I gotta think Florida is winning it all.

Beating Boston,Toronto, and Carolina is a gauntlet. They are battle tested.

Congratulations to the rejected flyers: BoB, Cousins, Gudas, and Ghost 👻 who got almost 21 minutes! In a Eastern Conference final! But wasn't good enough for Chuck and AV. Good riddance 👏

Congratulations to the rejected flyers: BoB, Cousins, Gudas, and Ghost 👻 who got almost 21 minutes! In a Eastern Conference final! But wasn't good enough for Chuck and AV. Good riddance 👏
- THE EVIL WITHIN

Don’t forget Alex Lyon.

Can’t believe I just typed that

Congratulations to the rejected flyers: BoB, Cousins, Gudas, and Ghost 👻 who got almost 21 minutes! In a Eastern Conference final! But wasn't good enough for Chuck and AV. Good riddance 👏
- THE EVIL WITHIN

I was always a Gudas and Cousins fan, plus felt Bob didn't get a fair chance. I also am always glad to see our former players succeed. That said, I still don't get the Ghost hype. We've been through this so many times...nobody wanted him when we tried to give him away. Yeah, he played well for the Yotes but who cares. I didn't watch much of the series but the Canes are out and obviously, Ghost didn't make much of a difference. Time to move on.

Jesus Christ.

I never said that you said anything along these line, so can we keep the sensitivity to a minimum? Bob is a former Flyer who we didn’t see as a franchise goalie, so we shipped him out. Hart might be next. This isn’t all I’m saying…
- SuperSchennBros

Actually you are incorrect. Bob asked for a trade cause he didn't want to back up Bryz. They thought they had their goalie in the space cadet which was obviously a colossal blunder. Again, no one was really harping on this crap until Bob had success in this year's playoffs. Hindsight is always 20/20.

Congratulations to the rejected flyers: BoB, Cousins, Gudas, and Ghost 👻 who got almost 21 minutes! In a Eastern Conference final! But wasn't good enough for Chuck and AV. Good riddance 👏
- THE EVIL WITHIN

Ghost was given 21 minutes of ice time this evening because of the early injury to Slavin. They simply had no choice and he had a big hand in Florida's third goal. As usual, there were lots of adventures in the defensive zone when he was on the ice.

Don’t forget Alex Lyon.

Can’t believe I just typed that
- Big_E_88

😆 Fu yeah! He got them into the playoffs! When BoB was hurt and struggled. And Panthers has to thank the Penguins 🐧 for choking vs Hawks at home. 😁

I was always a Gudas and Cousins fan, plus felt Bob didn't get a fair chance. I also am always glad to see our former players succeed. That said, I still don't get the Ghost hype. We've been through this so many times...nobody wanted him when we tried to give him away. Yeah, he played well for the Yotes but who cares. I didn't watch much of the series but the Canes are out and obviously, Ghost didn't make much of a difference. Time to move on.
- Don Nachbaur

I never understood the disdain for Gudas. It's funny how these big physical defensemen become more prominent come playoff time. Look at the two teams that are gonna make it to the Finals. Both have their share of big rugged defensemen. Perhaps big physical players aren't as archaic as some folks think.

Is this what I said?

I asked you a direct question that you failed to answer. What are Jones current responsibilities as president that needs his immediate attention, which you complete avoided answering.

I’ll add a second question. Why shouldn’t Jones follow up his broadcasting career outside of Flyers normal business hours or on his free time? Let’s say you decided to add another job on your current full time job, does your full time employer have the right to tell you, you can’t?

I can’t wait to hear the answer to this.
- SuperSchennBros

I don’t know what a POHO’s specific responsibilities are. I don’t know why it’s important for me to know this.

We’re not talking about me trying to pick up a little extra pocket change driving for Uber on the weekends. He’s supposed to be the president of an NHL team. To me the point isn’t whether he can do both jobs it’s that his priority should be being POHO.

Sorry you had to wait so long. I was busy. I hope it was worth the wait for you.

Csn you please point out where I said that in any comment ever. I'll wait. Thanks.
Also, I was a huge fan of bobs and thought we screwed the pooch with the goalie that we chose as our starter.
I never thought bruz was awful, I saw him play against nashville while in AZ and thought he looked good but I was a huge bobs fan. As usual, the flyers brass screwed that up as well.
But back to the original sentence, when have I ever talked bad about Hart. I am also a fan of his and with better D in front of him his numbers would be even better. I gone they don't screw it up and trade him...unless the price is too good to say no to
- Bob Habib

Bryz was 100% Ed Snider's initiative. He literally pounded his fist on the desk and demanded a long-term -- and immediate-- solution in goal after what happened in the 2010 Final and Lavy"s 2011 playoff goalie carousel.

Both Holmgren and Jeff Reese opined that Bobrovsky would be a bonafide No. 1 NHL goalie for the long haul.

"Will he win us the Cup next season? The year after after?" Snider asked.

Holmgren said he couldn't guarantee that. He was just a believer in Bobrovsky's potential and pleased overall with his rookie season.

Snider didn't think that was enough. Bryz was a year removed from being a Vezina finalist. THAT was want Snider wanted and demanded.

Holmgren had little choice here. Especially because Snider himself started the negotiation with Ritch Winter once Holmgren traded for Bryzgalov's negotiating rights and expressed a willingness to meet the ask.

"I think I cost us a few million dollars there," Snider admitted.

A year later, Bobrovsky's agent said his client would not spend another year as Bryzgalov's backup. He asked for a trade, levering a threat to bolt back to the KHL otherwise.

Holmgren said he'd accommodate the trade request under the condition that the Bobrovsky side not make it public. They agreed and the trade to Columbus went down not long thereafter.

Side note: Compliance buyouts were a supposed non-starter for Gary Bettman in CBA negotiations at the time. It was actually a bargaining chip.

After the 2012-13 season, with Snider's blessing, the Flyers used a compliance buyout on Bryzgalov. (The other was used on Danny Briere.) If Bob could have been convinced to give it one more year, he'd have been the Flyers starter by 2013-14. But it worked out for Bobrovsky... he'd just won his first Vezina.

Ed Snider did a lot more things right than wrong. The Bryz debacle was his mistake, first and foremost.

Bryz was 100% Ed Snider's initiative. He literally pounded his fist on the desk and demanded a long-term -- and immediate-- solution in goal after what happened in the 2010 Final and Lavy"s 2011 playoff goalie carousel.

Both Holmgren and Jeff Reese opined that Bobrovsky would be a bonafide No. 1 NHL goalie for the long haul.

"Will he win us the Cup next season? The year after after?" Snider asked.

Holmgren said he couldn't guarantee that. He was just a believer in Bobrovsky's potential and pleased overall with his rookie season.

Snider didn't think that was enough. Bryz was a year removed from being a Vezina finalist. THAT was want Snider wanted and demanded.

Holmgren had little choice here. Especially because Snider himself started the negotiation with Ritch Winter once Holmgren traded for Bryzgalov's negotiating rights and expressed a willingness to meet the ask.

"I think I cost us a few million dollars there," Snider admitted.

A year later, Bobrovsky's agent said his client would not spend another year as Bryzgalov's backup. He asked for a trade, levering a threat to bolt back to the KHL otherwise.

Holmgren said he'd accommodate the trade request under the condition that the Bobrovsky side not make it public. They agreed and the trade to Columbus went down not long thereafter.

Side note: Compliance buyouts were a supposed non-starter for Gary Bettman in CBA negotiations at the time. It was actually a bargaining chip.

After the 2012-13 season, with Snider's blessing, the Flyers used a compliance buyout on Bryzgalov. (The other was used on Danny Briere.) If Bob could have been convinced to give it one more year, he'd have been the Flyers starter by 2013-14. But it worked out for Bobrovsky... he'd just won his first Vezina.

Ed Snider did a lot more things right than wrong. The Bryz debacle was his mistake, first and foremost.
- bmeltzer

https://www.inquirer.com/...ie-too.html#ixzz1M4jk0uBO

"So either one of the goalies we have has to step up in training camp, or we have to make improvements to make sure it happens. But we are NEVER going to go through the goalie issues we've gone through in the last couple of years again."

..

Signing a marquee free-agent goalie will be difficult because the Flyers have little cap space.

Snider didn't see that as a problem.

"If we trade or go for a goalie (through free-agency), we'll make it work," he said. "We can make anything work, even with the cap."

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He really ignored the salary cap as much as possible and without the compliance buyouts the Flyers were totally screwed.

Snider was probably the most passionate, fan who owns the team, put your money where your mouth is owner out there but he was also impatient, thought the rules didn't apply to him, and shortsighted hence the "win the cup every year" mantra.

Snider was his own kryptonite.

Sorry, but he already had the broadcaster position and another job opportunity came up. I didn't realize people were not allowed to make decisions about their own careers without thinking of others first. If he committed to the job several months ago, there is no reason why he shouldn't fulfill his obligations. I know there are other broadcasters out there, but if TNT was counting on him to do the games, Jonesy should be doing the games. I guess Jonesy should've checked here on HB to see if it was ok for him to accept a new job.
- Don Nachbaur

You missed the point. It's okay for him to accept another job. Just get started with that other job immediately.

Obviously you know more than anyone, but can you confirm that Jonesy was told he should drop his job immediately despite his previous commitments? I know the Flyers are a mess, but I think they would understand that Jones had a job already and would let him finish his commitments to that job. If they wanted him that bad, I assume they'd realize that he would finish his previous job first. There are also these things called contracts - I have no idea of Jonesy's status with TNT, etc, but I assume he has some type of contract.
- Don Nachbaur

I don't know more than anyone but I know more than you. What Jones was told was irrelevant in my opinion. You want to play both sides of the fence. Question me on whether I know what Jones was told and then assume something.