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Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

May 24 @ 4:02 PM ET
Doesn't the President create a vision on what he wants? Then have the GM carry out that vision?
- hello it's me 2050


Is that what you think the job is or what you want it to be?
Flyerz74
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.14.2019

May 24 @ 4:03 PM ET
wonder how many other teams would have even interviewed "jonesy"...gonna go out on a limb and say zero
- hello it's me 2050


None, he only interviewed for this because someone in the Flyers suggested it to him. He said he'd only do this for the Flyer, otherwise he'd still be on TV.
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

May 24 @ 4:03 PM ET
Is that what you think the job is or what you want it to be?
- Glak18

I asked you. You tell me.
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

May 24 @ 4:03 PM ET
None, he only interviewed for this because someone in the Flyers suggested it to him. He said he'd only do this for the Flyer, otherwise he'd still be on TV.
- Flyerz74

no kidding as non one else would ever come calling.
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

May 24 @ 4:06 PM ET
https://twitter.com/Jay_P...5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=
Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

May 24 @ 4:07 PM ET
You dont get the negativity? are you new to this site? lol People complain here, same complaints over and over for some reason. It would be fun to see a tracker how many times mjl bashed RR and Torts. Rinse and repeat, he brings nothing new of substance to the convo.

I dont have any issues with what Jones is doing at all. I will judge later when there are results from his actions.

- bradster


Yeah wouldn't it be nice if people actually truly judged by results.

Instead we have prospects that are pre-judged before they play a game depending on an article that was written than they just fit their narrative around what they see or don't see. We have clairvoyant dinosaurs that know how a player, coach, GM or owner is going to do because "the past". If they predict correctly then you get an EkCoin....whoops.

Take that away and this board has nothing to contribute in the comments.
Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

May 24 @ 4:08 PM ET
I asked you. You tell me.
- hello it's me 2050


No.
Flyerz74
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.14.2019

May 24 @ 4:11 PM ET
no kidding as non one else would ever come calling.
- hello it's me 2050



Rinaldo, you really try that hard to be so negative all the time or is that just natural?
THE EVIL WITHIN
Location: NJ
Joined: 11.20.2017

May 24 @ 4:25 PM ET
So maybe hexy is a genius but he is held back by TPTB above him. Sabotage, damnit!
- Bob Habib

HeX genious may be understood after he is dead, like Van Gogh. (Sorry Vincent).
mikeyo27
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: NJ
Joined: 01.18.2014

May 24 @ 4:30 PM ET
You dont get the negativity? are you new to this site? lol People complain here, same complaints over and over for some reason. It would be fun to see a tracker how many times mjl bashed RR and Torts. Rinse and repeat, he brings nothing new of substance to the convo.

I dont have any issues with what Jones is doing at all. I will judge later when there are results from his actions.

- bradster


Yeah. Poor choice of words.
😂
Flyers_01
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 10.03.2006

May 24 @ 4:42 PM ET
https://twitter.com/Jay_P...5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=
- hello it's me 2050


If the chart is anywhere close to accurate the Flyers have 50% more of their own explayers in the org than any other team.
Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

May 24 @ 4:49 PM ET
If the chart is anywhere close to accurate the Flyers have 50% more of their own explayers in the org than any other team.
- Flyers_01


And what does that mean?

I looked at the chart and depending on how you want to fudge the numbers you can go in multiple directions. Other than former players in the organization in current positions the other columns are no different than the rest of the clubs.

Former players org? So a player who played their entire career with the Flyers or a player who played 20 games for them and the rest with other clubs?
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

May 24 @ 4:52 PM ET
If the chart is anywhere close to accurate the Flyers have 50% more of their own explayers in the org than any other team.
- Flyers_01

A few more should do it.
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

May 24 @ 4:53 PM ET
No.
- Glak18

then what is the presidents role on an NHL team?
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

May 24 @ 4:53 PM ET
Rinaldo, you really try that hard to be so negative all the time or is that just natural?
- Flyerz74

Who is Rinaldo?
Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

May 24 @ 4:57 PM ET
then what is the presidents role on an NHL team?
- hello it's me 2050


"The president of hockey operations will lead the strategic direction for all aspects of the hockey operations department while collaborating on business goals."
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

May 24 @ 5:00 PM ET
"The president of hockey operations will lead the strategic direction for all aspects of the hockey operations department while collaborating on business goals."
- Glak18

does that not describe having a vision?
Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

May 24 @ 5:05 PM ET
does that not describe having a vision?
- hello it's me 2050


Vision?


Is that really how you interpret it?
BenderRodriguez
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Norristown, PA
Joined: 01.19.2011

May 24 @ 5:06 PM ET
Could it possibly be that you do not get it?

He has no management experience. He should be getting acclimated with everything that entails don't you think? Submersing himself into hos new role. Nah no need as he is getting a birds eye view.

- hello it's me 2050


Certainly no shortage of work for him to do in his new position. I assume he spends a majority of the day on Zoom meetings with the org preping for the draft/FA, then between the benches in the evenings. Dude has always been a grinder with an enviable hustler attitude.

Definitely prefer he wasn't fulfilling his obligations for the playoffs, but I do not doubt his ability to do the necessary work for PoHO simultaneously.
Minnyhock
Minnesota Wild
Joined: 06.26.2021

May 24 @ 5:09 PM ET
HeX genious may be understood after he is dead, like Van Gogh. (Sorry Vincent).
- THE EVIL WITHIN


That’s because Van Gogh did his best works the last couple years of his life.

What did Mike Tyson say to Van Gogh?

Ans: “You gonna eat that?”

hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

May 24 @ 5:10 PM ET
Vision?


Is that really how you interpret it?

- Glak18

not sure i follow the lol. omg

bottom line is the GM has final say, not the president with the flyers

President sets the direction of the club. GM follows that direction. except for the flyers
Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

May 24 @ 5:11 PM ET
That’s because Van Gogh did his best works the last couple years of his life.

What did Mike Tyson say to Van Gogh?

Ans: “You gonna eat that?”

- Minnyhock


Could of done without the ear jokes.
Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

May 24 @ 5:11 PM ET
That’s because Van Gogh did his best works the last couple years of his life.

What did Mike Tyson say to Van Gogh?

Ans: “You gonna eat that?”

- Minnyhock


Could of done without the ear jokes.
Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

May 24 @ 5:14 PM ET
not sure i follow the lol. omg

bottom line is the GM has final say, not the president with the flyers

President sets the direction of the club. GM follows that direction. except for the flyers

- hello it's me 2050


You obviously don't understand corporate structure or what hockey operations is.

I will try to simplify it for you...Jones is not going to say "Hey get faster players" and Danny trades for the fastest players.

He OVERSEES Operations, not crafts his Ultimate Team.
Minnyhock
Minnesota Wild
Joined: 06.26.2021

May 24 @ 5:14 PM ET
Could of done without the ear jokes.
- Glak18


Yeah, it’s pretty bad. I have a lot of respect for Vincent and Mike.

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