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aecliptic
New York Rangers
Location: Stacheville
Joined: 06.17.2010

May 22 @ 11:21 PM ET
The Rangers as an organization have done a terrible job at developing top 10 picks.
McIlrath
Kravtsov
Andersson
Kakko
Laf

Eventually the excuse of it being the player doesn’t work anymore. The Rangers organization needs a change in their scouting/development process.

- nyrangers9479


Jed Ortmeyer, Tanner Glass and Matt Hunwick are in charge of all that. They should all be fired.
nyrangers9479
New York Rangers
Joined: 11.08.2013

May 23 @ 1:44 AM ET
Jed Ortmeyer, Tanner Glass and Matt Hunwick are in charge of all that. They should all be fired.
- aecliptic

How the NYR think those 3 are a good idea is beyond me. We’ve generally done a terrible job at drafting and developing, but the top 10 picks have been abysmal.

2010 - McIlrath Fast (6 players drafted)
2011 - JT Miller (6 players drafted)
2012 - Skjei (4 players drafted)
2013 - Buch Duclair Graves (5 players drafted)
2014 - Shesty (7 players drafted)
2015 - All busts (7 players drafted)
2016 - All busts (6 players drafted)
2017 - Lias Chytil Barron (7 players drafted)
2018 - Krav Miller Nils (10 players drafted)
2019 - Kakko Jones (8 players drafted)

I’d say it’s still to early to judge these other drafts, but 2020 looks ok with Laf Schneider Cuylle, then you have Bedard Rempe and Ollas who the jury is still out on.

Way to early for the 2021 and 2022 draft classes.
jimbro83
New York Rangers
Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY
Joined: 12.25.2009

May 23 @ 6:53 AM ET
if Kakko and Lafreniere were "developed better" they'd score goals?
climbdenali12
New York Rangers
Location: MSG sec 226 Row 17 Seats 23-24
Joined: 11.18.2008

May 23 @ 7:45 AM ET
So...would everyone be ok if the Rangers hired Q, Traded for Logan Mailloux, and Mitchell Miller?

Seems like a "buy low" opportunity.
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

May 23 @ 8:08 AM ET

Today @ 7:45 AM ET
Jonny Lazarus
@JLazzy23
Hearing today lead candidate for #NYR Head Coach position is now Jack Capuano.
7:45 AM · May 23, 2023

Wow lolz
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JRR1285
New York Rangers
Location: Coach's decision, PEI
Joined: 02.21.2008

May 23 @ 8:10 AM ET
Today @ 7:45 AM ET
Jonny Lazarus
@JLazzy23
Hearing today lead candidate for #NYR Head Coach position is now Jack Capuano.
7:45 AM · May 23, 2023

Wow lolz
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- Cptmjl



Nice try bumhole.
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

May 23 @ 8:16 AM ET
Nice try bumhole.
- JRR1285

tomburton99
New York Rangers
Location: NYR distrust, NJ
Joined: 07.13.2009

May 23 @ 9:20 AM ET
Jed Ortmeyer, Tanner Glass and Matt Hunwick are in charge of all that. They should all be fired.
- aecliptic

My man!
tomburton99
New York Rangers
Location: NYR distrust, NJ
Joined: 07.13.2009

May 23 @ 9:21 AM ET
if Kakko and Lafreniere were "developed better" they'd score goals?
- jimbro83

Yes.
tomburton99
New York Rangers
Location: NYR distrust, NJ
Joined: 07.13.2009

May 23 @ 9:24 AM ET
Today @ 7:45 AM ET
Jonny Lazarus
@JLazzy23
Hearing today lead candidate for #NYR Head Coach position is now Jack Capuano.
7:45 AM · May 23, 2023

Wow lolz
·

- Cptmjl

That's my coach!

jimbro83
New York Rangers
Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY
Joined: 12.25.2009

May 23 @ 9:24 AM ET
Yes.
- tomburton99


why
jimbro83
New York Rangers
Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY
Joined: 12.25.2009

May 23 @ 9:25 AM ET
how has Jed Ortmeyer effected the development of Lafreniere when he's literally never been around him
tomburton99
New York Rangers
Location: NYR distrust, NJ
Joined: 07.13.2009

May 23 @ 9:27 AM ET
why
- jimbro83

Because if they had better coaching, they'd be better players. Instead the Rangers hired all former 4th liners (scouts, skills coach, assistants etc.) Hire trash, develop like trash. Pretty simple.
jimbro83
New York Rangers
Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY
Joined: 12.25.2009

May 23 @ 9:28 AM ET
Because if they had better coaching, they'd be better players. Instead the Rangers hired all former 4th liners (scouts, skills coach, assistants etc.) Hire trash, develop like trash. Pretty simple.
- tomburton99


so we are going to venture back to they should have played Panarin and Kreider less the last two years and played Lafreniere more
jimbro83
New York Rangers
Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY
Joined: 12.25.2009

May 23 @ 9:31 AM ET
I look forward to someone saying the Rangers should have give Lafreniere and Kakko AHL time, when Lias Andersson and Kravtsov were always total babies about going to Hartford
JRR1285
New York Rangers
Location: Coach's decision, PEI
Joined: 02.21.2008

May 23 @ 9:37 AM ET
I look forward to someone saying the Rangers should have give Lafreniere and Kakko AHL time, when Lias Andersson and Kravtsov were always total babies about going to Hartford
- jimbro83



I think Kakko and Laf would have taken those assignments like professionals. But that ship has sailed. They are with the top club for better or worse.
jimbro83
New York Rangers
Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY
Joined: 12.25.2009

May 23 @ 9:38 AM ET
I think Kakko and Laf would have taken those assignments like professionals. But that ship has sailed. They are with the top club for better or worse.
- JRR1285


I really dont know when it was possible to send Lafreniere to the AHL though
JRR1285
New York Rangers
Location: Coach's decision, PEI
Joined: 02.21.2008

May 23 @ 9:48 AM ET
I really dont know when it was possible to send Lafreniere to the AHL though
- jimbro83



If things were normal etc.

But being a 1OA he likely never does get any AHL time.
jimbro83
New York Rangers
Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY
Joined: 12.25.2009

May 23 @ 9:50 AM ET
If things were normal etc.

But being a 1OA he likely never does get any AHL time.

- JRR1285


and he has had two top 10 left wings in the league in front of him the whole time

it's really easy to say the Rangers did him wrong but not offer up any suggestions of what they should have done
tomburton99
New York Rangers
Location: NYR distrust, NJ
Joined: 07.13.2009

May 23 @ 9:50 AM ET
so we are going to venture back to they should have played Panarin and Kreider less the last two years and played Lafreniere more
- jimbro83

If that is how you are going to take it, sure.
jimbro83
New York Rangers
Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY
Joined: 12.25.2009

May 23 @ 9:52 AM ET
If that is how you are going to take it, sure.
- tomburton99


ok cool
JRR1285
New York Rangers
Location: Coach's decision, PEI
Joined: 02.21.2008

May 23 @ 9:56 AM ET
and he has had two top 10 left wings in the league in front of him the whole time

it's really easy to say the Rangers did him wrong but not offer up any suggestions of what they should have done

- jimbro83



Just a bad situation all around. Though I will contend that Laf COULD have been a more dynamic player and forced his way to another position or into the top 6. I still think there is a lot of potential there. Not sure how this will all end up though.

Kakko looks great often enough. I am not too worried aside from his finishing ability.
jimbro83
New York Rangers
Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY
Joined: 12.25.2009

May 23 @ 9:58 AM ET
Just a bad situation all around. Though I will contend that Laf COULD have been a more dynamic player and forced his way to another position or into the top 6. I still think there is a lot of potential there. Not sure how this will all end up though.

Kakko looks great often enough. I am not too worried aside from his finishing ability.

- JRR1285


the good thing about Kakko is that he doubled his best point total this year and he's signed at a great price this coming season
Brukie
New York Rangers
Location: Putnam, NY
Joined: 06.14.2011

May 23 @ 10:01 AM ET
and he has had two top 10 left wings in the league in front of him the whole time

it's really easy to say the Rangers did him wrong but not offer up any suggestions of what they should have done

- jimbro83



One of the reasons why signing Panarin so early in the rebuild was a mistake. No matter how good he is.
tomburton99
New York Rangers
Location: NYR distrust, NJ
Joined: 07.13.2009

May 23 @ 10:02 AM ET
Just a bad situation all around. Though I will contend that Laf COULD have been a more dynamic player and forced his way to another position or into the top 6. I still think there is a lot of potential there. Not sure how this will all end up though.

Kakko looks great often enough. I am not too worried aside from his finishing ability.

- JRR1285

I'm in the opposite way of thinking. The Rangers turned these two in grinders. That's just what they are now. Because what are the odds than a kid from Finland and Kid from Quebec were both label can't miss and are more miss than hit? They aren't busts, but they don't do anything well. I refuse to blame them and place all the blame on the Rangers.
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