Isn't Snoop a part of some group trying to buy some ownership in hockey? I could be mistaken but I thought I read that somewhere. He loves hockey and would be a great advocate for the game.
- Elbows15

and he is black so therefore he can buy Atlanta too.

LOL










https://fortune.com/2023/...tors-bid-nhl-neko-sparks/

Not really small 5'!! now 180
nice article him at the Athletic:

https://theathletic.com/4...-pellikka-2023-nhl-draft/

I only know my opinion on him, and he can defend and is excellent on the attack in all ways.
I never have changed my slotting unless I finally think I am
bloated in my opinion....thus so many of my late first are less conventional with what the "other draft experts" thunk...

no everyone has the German first and this kid second...no big.deal...I don't get fired if I am incorrect in an evaluation.
- wiz1901

He is Austrian.

(can someone help em and NAME the FOUR defenders going before #19? Is someone's list that dee-heavy?)
The early hockey New might have had Lukas Dragicevic as a possible #18, but not sure. Mckeen's has the two top guys plus the Two Russians going at #18....

So to me, anyway, Mike Doneghey speaking in wishful thinking terms not reality.

Maybe start looking for a trade partner, b/c Mike Doneghey may be out of his depth.


- wiz1901

I don't see it, but perhaps there is a run on the three Swedes after Reinbacher: Pellikka, Willander, and Lindstein.

So I googled 'NHL draft pick value chart" and got several hits. The values vary widely from the various links. Here's one of the latest, updated in 2022. There are a few draft day trade examples from around 2019-2021 shown for reference. Just picks for picks and do not include players.

https://bluebulletreport....value-chart-2022-edition/

There are other charts out there if you want to look them up.
- boilermaker100

Thanks for digging this up. I wonder if the Hawks could package all 4 2nd rounders for the 15th overall?

What is so amazing about the draft is how scientific and correct the teams are through 15 or 20 picks in the first round. Few notable exceptions but those guys turn out great. Then it becomes an art. Hawks picked Saad in the 2nd round but they picked Clendening, McNeil and Danault before him. Tampa picked Namestnikov in the first round, the rest of the league made their picks and then they got Kucherov in the 2nd. Hintz could be this years Playoff MVP and the Stars drafted Gurianov the rest of the league passed then the Stars got him.

I envision Reichel as a F1 where he eventually plays a hagekl style with a bit better hands. He was know in German junior as the guy who used his board play to win pucks and get them to his line mates. He used his in zone foot and hand quickness.
I need to see that come.

Nazar & the Blackhawks were correct to get his hip fixed now, but it put him back a year. Nazar is faster than Reichel can also play everywhere up front.

I see Nazar's all around speed and generation abilities a s a good fit with Bedard and he can open things up as his winger pressure fro pucks.

Ultimately I am very uncertain they are one future hawk line.

They need a big boy who likes contract. (Is that guy in the system? Is Ryan Greene Boston U that RW there eventually.

The luxury of the crop last year is they can move to wing.

I can see similar players picked with regard for their positions.

Everyone is down on Eduard Šalé s' compete but he looks special in his understanding the attack zome, and just knows where to go with the puck.

Junior goal and point totals should never be the high criteria in selecting kids, and there is quite a lot of kids with stringer physical attributes like Ryan Leonard, who also may fall. He just one of the stronger kids top & bottom, and a high motor, sure hands and shoots a heavy puck and also is a sniper, and battle area player.
He won't have you jump out of your seat but, you have Conner Bedard for that.

I guess my continuing to highlight prospects strengths here is to re-iterate that standing pat at #19, you know only 17 kids are slipping out of our hands and we have more names of really good possibles even after subtracting...
- wiz1901

Reichel picked up some points in his last call up for sure. Too much talent to be a bust.
In the AHL playoffs he had 1 point and was -4 in 5 games. The 2 games I went to, where Davidson and the entire Hawks front office was sitting in the suite at center ice, he stayed along the boards and was giving the puck away. One of the Ice Hogs dads who watched almost every home game this season was complaining that he did not go to the tough areas. Might have had an injury. Stars AHL team had Will Butcher and Alex Petrovic on the ice against him. Both guys had careers. I think they made $20 million between the two. Elusive skater and it is possible that playing with talent he may turn out to be a first line player.

Isn't Snoop a part of some group trying to buy some ownership in hockey? I could be mistaken but I thought I read that somewhere. He loves hockey and would be a great advocate for the game.

Found it




https://fortune.com/2023/...tors-bid-nhl-neko-sparks/
- Elbows15

Snoop is a regular at Kings games.

Isn't Snoop a part of some group trying to buy some ownership in hockey? I could be mistaken but I thought I read that somewhere. He loves hockey and would be a great advocate for the game.

Found it




https://fortune.com/2023/...tors-bid-nhl-neko-sparks/
- Elbows15

I thought of him when i posted Tyler Perry, but i know Perry has created his own movie studio set somewhere in Georgia, i think in Atlanta.

Snoop is a regular at Kings games.
- LAHawk

Snoop and Martha are taking over the world, hahaha

Snoop is a regular at Kings games.
- LAHawk

He did a bit a few years ago on YouTube about hockey. 5 or 6 clips. He is big fan and come to the game late. Barkley is another one who loves the game. He took a dig at the Bruins prior to game 1 between the Heat and Celtics on the TNT studio show.

Snoop and Martha are taking over the world, hahaha
- BetweenTheDots

She is the SI cover girl this year

You overlook AZ, Wiz? They have two 1st rd picks and IIRC their first pic is at #6. They may nab Reinbacher at #6.

Not slotting wise but I don't think I've read anyone as high on Swede Pendlinka as you are. Another small skill guy on the backend. Interested to see where he goes.
- Mr Ricochet

Axel Sandin Pelikka to me is the next Brandon Montour.

I just don't every have any idea what there plan is.
This year was to get Bedard, but they won many a game more.

I am never sure what their plan is...it seems to be trade everyone and never have any consistency or steadiness at most positions.

Go get one of their picks? Sure, but I prefer Clayton Keller if Elbows and Keller's daddy are pumping the brakes on hot sun in the summer time.

Axel Sandin Pelikka to me is the next Brandon Montour.

I just don't every have any idea what there plan is.
This year was to get Bedard, but they won many a game more.

I am never sure what their plan is...it seems to be trade everyone and never have any consistency or steadiness at most positions.

Go get one of their picks? Sure, but I prefer Clayton Keller if Elbows and Keller's daddy are pumping the brakes on hot sun in the summer time.
- wiz1901

https://twitter.com/sbroo.../1659284904998236185?s=46

bryzkel is his dad

She is the SI cover girl this year
- Elbows15

She looks darn good for 81, or however old she is. I can just see Snoop in the owners box rolling a fat one… like I always say, live and let live.

Thanks for digging this up. I wonder if the Hawks could package all 4 2nd rounders for the 15th overall?

What is so amazing about the draft is how scientific and correct the teams are through 15 or 20 picks in the first round. Few notable exceptions but those guys turn out great. Then it becomes an art. Hawks picked Saad in the 2nd round but they picked Clendening, McNeil and Danault before him. Tampa picked Namestnikov in the first round, the rest of the league made their picks and then they got Kucherov in the 2nd. Hintz could be this years Playoff MVP and the Stars drafted Gurianov the rest of the league passed then the Stars got him.
- stevefrmglencoe

If a team is willing to give up 4 2nds for a middle round 1st that says right there it's a bad trade for the team giving up the 1st.

Boy, this Florida-Carolina is a great watch!

You could play the video to any age team and they pull so much smart play all over all game.

spoke to someone yesterday who has a good friend in the NHL. he said the players absolutely hate being in Pheonix. the dressing rooms are crap. they can't use any of the fitness gear. wouldn't surprise me if some ask the heck out of that crap hole. and now Bettman is saying they are committed to making it work. i just don't get it?
- SaskHawkFan

Years ago, for the NHL to get their national contract deal with NBC, they had to have all of the top TV markets covered within a certain amount of miles.

Phoenix, being a top 10 market, had to be covered. That's originally why they moved Winnipeg to Arizona.

I'm not sure if that same deal holds with ABC/ESPN, or TBS/TNT.

And don't forget Bettman's ego. He would have to admit the move to Arizona was a failure. We all know it, he doesn't want to admit it.

If a team is willing to give up 4 2nds for a middle round 1st that says right there it's a bad trade for the team giving up the 1st.
- rpeters01

#15 is not worth 4 second rounders

Boy, this Florida-Carolina is a great watch!

You could play the video to any age team and they pull so much smart play all over all game.
- wiz1901

Imagine if you can the Richardson coached team playing smart fast hockey challenging all over ice in a playoff contest

Alright a dream hoping it turns into reality

Draft well our friend KD

Edmonton is wondering if the Cup window is closing...


so let's just take our time, and give Bedard the 14 mil check now...
- wiz1901

This is the problem with the salary cap. If you get lucky,or draft good,you basically get punished because you need to pay a guy high end money to keep him.

Not sure if it is true or not,but someone here or somewhere else wrote that a team never won the Cup with a player that had a cap hit of more than 10mil?

And I know the cap can increase year to year etc..but that doesn't help as much as people think it does.

Never understood why they wouldn't give an edge to(so they could keep the player) the teams that drafted and developed their own players.

Not really small 5'!! now 180
nice article him at the Athletic:

https://theathletic.com/4...-pellikka-2023-nhl-draft/

I only know my opinion on him, and he can defend and is excellent on the attack in all ways.
I never have changed my slotting unless I finally think I am
bloated in my opinion....thus so many of my late first are less conventional with what the "other draft experts" thunk...

no everyone has the German first and this kid second...no big.deal...I don't get fired if I am incorrect in an evaluation.
- wiz1901

Wiz, I'm not giving you grief about Pellikka. You put the work in and if you see him being a good NHLer that's cool. I do like Reinbacher a good bit more though but that's not going out on a limb, most have Reinbacher the first Dman off the board..

The Sved has more offensive upside though.

Years ago, for the NHL to get their national contract deal with NBC, they had to have all of the top TV markets covered within a certain amount of miles.

Phoenix, being a top 10 market, had to be covered. That's originally why they moved Winnipeg to Arizona.

I'm not sure if that same deal holds with ABC/ESPN, or TBS/TNT.

And don't forget Bettman's ego. He would have to admit the move to Arizona was a failure. We all know it, he doesn't want to admit it.
- dahawks8819

Someone can correct me if I'm wrong but I think I read Phoenix is the #4 tv market in the US. Would have never guessed that.

This is the problem with the salary cap. If you get lucky,or draft good,you basically get punished because you need to pay a guy high end money to keep him.

Not sure if it is true or not,but someone here or somewhere else wrote that a team never won the Cup with a player that had a cap hit of more than 10mil?

And I know the cap can increase year to year etc..but that doesn't help as much as people think it does.

Never understood why they wouldn't give an edge to(so they could keep the player) the teams that drafted and developed their own players.
- captainserious

Collective Bargaining Agreement expires after the 2025-26 season. Bedard ELC expires at the same time. Good time to negotiate a clause regarding home grown players getting some sort of edge toward the cap. Maybe something like 2 home grown players exempt from the cap? Fans throughout the league will whine over preferential treatment given to Chicago just in time for Bedard's next contract.

Collective Bargaining Agreement expires after the 2025-26 season. Bedard ELC expires at the same time. Good time to negotiate a clause regarding home grown players getting some sort of edge toward the cap. Maybe something like 2 home grown players exempt from the cap? Fans throughout the league whine over preferential treatment given to Chicago just in time for Bedard's next contract.
- boilermaker100

I believe the NBA team who has the rights of the player can sign them for 1 year longer than any other team?

Wouldn't be a bad place to start

Collective Bargaining Agreement expires after the 2025-26 season. Bedard ELC expires at the same time. Good time to negotiate a clause regarding home grown players getting some sort of edge toward the cap. Maybe something like 2 home grown players exempt from the cap? Fans throughout the league whine over preferential treatment given to Chicago just in time for Bedard's next contract.
- boilermaker100

Yes, exactly something along a player or two exempt from the cap that you drafted and developed. Or able to go over the cap with those 2 players etc..
The way I look at it,even if the cap goes up, your franchise guys is going to get 10mil instead of 8mil, or 13 instead of 10 etc...and you are still left paying your franchise player and then end up losing a guy you drafted and developed.

I believe the NBA team who has the rights of the player can sign them for 1 year longer than any other team?

Wouldn't be a bad place to start
- BetweenTheDots

I'm not 100% sure,but I believe it is that or something similar.
The way I look at it, I'm against having a team be able to throw any money they want at any ufa,but penalizing them for having good scouts and development programs is dumb. So either reward teams with being able to keep their own players with some sort of relief for their own players, or the hell with it,make it a cap like the NFL, signing bonus/restructuring contracts gymnastics etc..