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buffalofan19
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Wonderful things can happen when you sow seeds of distrust in a garden full of (bum)holes
Joined: 07.01.2007

May 17 @ 8:26 AM ET
Huge blow for them.

Hometown team say (frank) off DN.

- ImThatGuy


I wonder what the market share is for that company.

EDIT: Legends is also the company that is overseeing the stadium build as a whole. Their hospitality division won the bid for concessions in the new stadium. I'm sure that played a factor into pricing and decision-making overall.
Gr8daygo
Joined: 04.23.2014

May 17 @ 8:36 AM ET
What about KC? Resurrect the ole KC Scouts… who I think turned into the devils after making a stop in Colorado?

I could be rusty on my NHL city trivia though.
Sabretooth9
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 05.24.2019

May 17 @ 8:39 AM ET
I think the NHL is learning from the Atlanta chaos

they start growing it and kids start to play the game, and then they move to calgary


fast forward and the same thing happens with the thrashers

literally was exploding with kids hockey at the time they move to canada



if they rode the storm out, team would be thriving in atlanta now

- homiedclown


exactly ….. the average fan will cry for Quebec and not understand why bettman wants Phoenix to workout so badly.

Austin Matthews is actually the perfect example of a coyotes fan growing up and learning hockey.

They also just brought college hockey to the area.

So leaving now would be a bad idea
Ratsreign
Florida Panthers
Location: Mo can stay awhile, FL
Joined: 10.27.2017

May 17 @ 8:41 AM ET
What about KC? Resurrect the ole KC Scouts… who I think turned into the devils after making a stop in Colorado?

I could be rusty on my NHL city trivia though.

- Gr8daygo

I think that’s how it went.
Sabretooth9
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 05.24.2019

May 17 @ 8:42 AM ET
They have done a good job at filling holes in the pipeline other than Defense. They have done nothing with there goaltending for 3yrs. They sat on Bryson and Fitzgerald when there Defense has been bad since they got here.
Things are developing nicely, there's been good and bad things. Let's see how good they are, next 2yrs should be very big for this Organization and Adams and Co. Could put a huge stamp on that.

- Buff36


Exactly. Hinostroza, Bryson, Fitzgerald, Comrie etc….. they are fillers for the time being. None of those contracts will kill the Sabres short or long term.

More kids are graduating from roch …. The less filler players we will see on the Sabres roster
Ratsreign
Florida Panthers
Location: Mo can stay awhile, FL
Joined: 10.27.2017

May 17 @ 8:56 AM ET
I mentioned this before here I think.


I have a buddy who lived in Glendale for 3 years.

The biggest issue with the coyotes was the arena. The arena was 45 minutes to an hour to get to with traffic. The arena is next to the football stadium which is out in the middle of no where.

Recreational hockey itself ….. is growing. Those kids that live in the Phoenix area have had the coyotes to watch and learn hockey.

The reason why bettman doesn’t want to leave is because the NHL sunk millions into growing the sport in that state.

The crazy part is …. It worked.

So imagine investing a lot of money into something that was slowly working and then this happening

It’s devastating.

And no Quebec is not the answer. Still a poopy place to live and doesn’t grow hockey in America

- Sabretooth9


Gonna have to find an owner willing to fund his own arena, or the League will have to chip in, to make it work now.
ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I AM MY OWN DAMN SOURCE!, NY
Joined: 11.04.2010

May 17 @ 9:01 AM ET
In true Arizona ownership fashion they spent next to no money advertising their plan. While the opposition spent well over $1 million to oppose it.
Ratsreign
Florida Panthers
Location: Mo can stay awhile, FL
Joined: 10.27.2017

May 17 @ 9:06 AM ET
I think the NHL is learning from the Atlanta chaos

they start growing it and kids start to play the game, and then they move to calgary


fast forward and the same thing happens with the thrashers

literally was exploding with kids hockey at the time they move to canada



if they rode the storm out, team would be thriving in atlanta now

- homiedclown

From what former Thrashers fans say, they didn’t have an arena available in which to ride said storm out. It’s a complicated story, but pretty much came down to the owners wanted the arena for concerts and the Hawks, not a hockey team. They literally had no where to play home games for the upcoming season.
RhinoFan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Visionville
Joined: 10.12.2015

May 17 @ 9:26 AM ET
Welcome Brad, thanks for a good reeeed.
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

May 17 @ 9:28 AM ET
Huge blow for them.

Hometown team say (frank) off DN.

- ImThatGuy


they're cut rate without the cut rates
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

May 17 @ 9:31 AM ET
In true Arizona ownership fashion they spent next to no money advertising their plan. While the opposition spent well over $1 million to oppose it.
- ImThatGuy


That ownership is a figurative circus. Shysters and con men.
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

May 17 @ 9:35 AM ET
Exactly. Hinostroza, Bryson, Fitzgerald, Comrie etc….. they are fillers for the time being. None of those contracts will kill the Sabres short or long term.

More kids are graduating from roch …. The less filler players we will see on the Sabres roster

- Sabretooth9


It's too bad we were set in a position that required us to essentially tread water after the Eichel fallout, a team destined to be a short term failure awaiting their youngest players, mostly teenagers at the time, to be the core of the team. Real free agents would refuse to sign with Buffalo, and Buffalo didn't want them either in order to carry out their plan. So, we recruited the above placeholders to get through a few seasons to allow our team to form.

Now that we're pounding on the door to the playoffs, it's time to get rid of the so called placeholders and recruit termed, impact veterans. You'll have a 4th liner or 2, 7th defenseman that we'lll love to hate, but we're very close to not having to hate almost everyone on the team. That itself is good progress.

I know there's one or two of you foaming at the mouth getting ready to poop all over this post.
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

May 17 @ 9:41 AM ET
https://theathletic.com/4...-draft-aleksandr-kisakov/

This is kind of the unofficial part 2 to the piece Fairburn wrote the other day about Russians coming to Buffalo.
washedup20
Location: the little apple
Joined: 08.19.2014

May 17 @ 9:56 AM ET
It's too bad we were set in a position that required us to essentially tread water after the Eichel fallout, a team destined to be a short term failure awaiting their youngest players, mostly teenagers at the time, to be the core of the team. Real free agents would refuse to sign with Buffalo, and Buffalo didn't want them either in order to carry out their plan. So, we recruited the above placeholders to get through a few seasons to allow our team to form.

Now that we're pounding on the door to the playoffs, it's time to get rid of the so called placeholders and recruit termed, impact veterans. You'll have a 4th liner or 2, 7th defenseman that we'lll love to hate, but we're very close to not having to hate almost everyone on the team. That itself is good progress.

I know there's one or two of you foaming at the mouth getting ready to poop all over this post.

- TheSabresTaco





Your post could’ve been reposted for 12 years straight:

https://thehockeynews.com...-store-in-rebuilding-team

Was firing managers every 2/3 years an actual negative impact?

Was it hiring rookie GM’s?

How is it that after 9 seasons it took a dude to properly assess and build out the correct way? I think your post is correct, it’s wild that it took so long to build the right way. No one knows the source of the problem as well.
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

May 17 @ 10:04 AM ET


Your post could’ve been reposted for 12 years straight:

https://thehockeynews.com...-store-in-rebuilding-team

Was firing managers every 2/3 years an actual negative impact?

Was it hiring rookie GM’s?

How is it that after 9 seasons it took a dude to properly assess and build out the correct way? I think your post is correct, it’s wild that it took so long to build the right way. No one knows the source of the problem as well.

- washedup20


terry hired the wrong bros. that's the only real answer.
hehateme
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 04.11.2017

May 17 @ 10:06 AM ET
new blog, yay..
washedup20
Location: the little apple
Joined: 08.19.2014

May 17 @ 10:23 AM ET
terry hired the wrong bros. that's the only real answer.
- TheSabresTaco



Where do you think the Sabres could’ve been had they just kept Darcy vs GMTM?
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

May 17 @ 10:32 AM ET
Where do you think the Sabres could’ve been had they just kept Darcy vs GMTM?
- washedup20


It's an entire shift of philosophy. Terry wanted to bullrush back to the playoffs immediately after they tanked for Eichel. Darcy had been there for way too long and it looked like he was just going to start doing what Kevyn is doing/did. Sell off the good vets, pick a ton of players and let it all slowly develop.

I think they're about as terrible with or without GMTM. Maybe we get Eichel, or McDavid, or Strome, or Marner. I don't think Darcy is trading for ROR or Lehner. I think Darcy builds his team out with his drafted guys like Risto and Compher and maybe Zadorov and Foligno and builds his base on them.

I imagine Darcy's path is similar to Adams'.

Darcy's mid and late drafting was overall pretty poor. I'd have hoped Terry would force him to poopcan his staff but who knows. It took all the way till Botts was fired in order to do so. I mean 2010 and 2011, who had a worse two drafts than that? Christ
Gr8daygo
Joined: 04.23.2014

May 17 @ 10:34 AM ET
Where do you think the Sabres could’ve been had they just kept Darcy vs GMTM?
- washedup20


What if they canned Darcey and kept Lindy!
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

May 17 @ 10:37 AM ET
What if they canned Darcey and kept Lindy!
- Gr8daygo


They pick Mitch Marner. They still suck.
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

May 17 @ 10:40 AM ET
Flyers team strategy is going to give equality to all parties in decision making. Which is Keith Jones, Danny B and Johnny Torts.

Sabres *consider and incorporate* all sources but Adams makes the final call. Which is usually what entails the title of GM.

This oughta be fantastic to watch.
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

May 17 @ 10:45 AM ET
It's time to get Clayton Keller out of Arizona.

2023 Buffalo 1st
Olofsson
Mittelstadt
UPL

Keller
Vejmelka
Ratsreign
Florida Panthers
Location: Mo can stay awhile, FL
Joined: 10.27.2017

May 17 @ 10:49 AM ET
What about KC? Resurrect the ole KC Scouts… who I think turned into the devils after making a stop in Colorado?

I could be rusty on my NHL city trivia though.

- Gr8daygo


I always thought the Scouts logo was really cool. Nowadays people would find it objectionable. Never knew the likeness was the same as that of a statue in downtown KC.
https://nhl-hockey.fandom...m/wiki/Kansas_City_Scouts

or it’ll be the new Houston Aeros
JCSabs06
Buffalo Sabres
Location: The Edge...The only people who really know where it is have gone over
Joined: 09.06.2012

May 17 @ 10:50 AM ET
Flyers team strategy is going to give equality to all parties in decision making. Which is Keith Jones, Danny B and Johnny Torts.

Sabres *consider and incorporate* all sources but Adams makes the final call. Which is usually what entails the title of GM.

This oughta be fantastic to watch.

- TheSabresTaco


Pretty sure Torts signed off on Jones because he knows there won't be any push back there and Danny is too soft spoken to even stand in the same room as Torts... so
SDSabre
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 02.05.2014

May 17 @ 10:55 AM ET
It's time to get Clayton Keller out of Arizona.

2023 Buffalo 1st
Olofsson
Mittelstadt
UPL

Keller
Vejmelka

- TheSabresTaco


I mean, yes?
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