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IBleedBlu1
Season Ticket Holder
St Louis Blues
Location: St Louis, MO
Joined: 06.10.2014

May 10 @ 5:49 PM ET
It’s completely unacceptable that the NHL’s only punishment against the Blackhawks for covering up sexual assault was a $2 million fine. A fine that the Blackhawks have since recouped — and then some — in ticket revenue just hours after winning the draft lottery. It was unacceptable then, and it’s even more outrageous now.

The NHL already failed Kyle Beach — John Doe 1 in the case — in the decade it took for his story to come to light. Not to mention Brad Aldrich’s other unnamed victims who were allowed to languish as the Blackhawks kept their sexual assault reports private. And now, every cent the Blackhawks make off of Bedard is yet another black stain on the NHL for failing to enact any semblance of a proper punishments on this organization.
WAKIE UP "LITTLE" GARY BETTMAN, YOU JUST SET THE NATIONAL GARBAGE LEAGUE BACK TO THE OLD DAYS, NOT EVEN RANKED 4TH IN PROFESSIONAL SPORTS, BUT CLOSER TO 7TH!
Mr Ricochet
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Joliet, IL
Joined: 04.19.2009

May 10 @ 5:58 PM ET
KD was/is on the record saying he didn't want to get top heavy. He wanted "waves" of drafted players coming in. That was before Connor Bedard fell into his lap which has the potential to change everything. For now, only time will tell.
- rpeters01


Did not know that, thanks. I do kinda favor a roster that "comes in waves/layers" and is deep. But as you mention Bedard may change everything if not at least a lot of things.

I did listen to his interview with NHL Network after the lottery and liked when he said he didn't want to be "rigid" and not adaptable moving forward. ..... Like Bedard landing in his lap and both good and bad surprises sure to crop up you needs plans A, B, C, D and F to maximize circumstances both that you can and can't control.
SC116
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 08.29.2015

May 10 @ 6:13 PM ET
You don't draft a centre to play them at winger - I don't know where that keeps coming from- but you don't. The responsibilities of a centre are entirely different, and if you are going to play there -you cannot cheat and stick someone at winger just because -you do that with guys that cannot hack playing centre.

stevefrmglencoe
Joined: 05.21.2013

May 10 @ 6:16 PM ET
It’s completely unacceptable that the NHL’s only punishment against the Blackhawks for covering up sexual assault was a $2 million fine. A fine that the Blackhawks have since recouped — and then some — in ticket revenue just hours after winning the draft lottery. It was unacceptable then, and it’s even more outrageous now.

The NHL already failed Kyle Beach — John Doe 1 in the case — in the decade it took for his story to come to light. Not to mention Brad Aldrich’s other unnamed victims who were allowed to languish as the Blackhawks kept their sexual assault reports private. And now, every cent the Blackhawks make off of Bedard is yet another black stain on the NHL for failing to enact any semblance of a proper punishments on this organization.
WAKIE UP "LITTLE" GARY BETTMAN, YOU JUST SET THE NATIONAL GARBAGE LEAGUE BACK TO THE OLD DAYS, NOT EVEN RANKED 4TH IN PROFESSIONAL SPORTS, BUT CLOSER TO 7TH!

- IBleedBlu1


A lot of what you are saying is true. Magically, Wirtz paid Jenner & Block a boatload of money and their report said that Wirtz did not know.

John McDonough was fired and has not been heard from again. Probably living by a river in a van somewhere.

Stan is out of hockey. Q got fired and is out of hockey.

The fans had nothing to do with it and I personally am very upset that these men, who are all fathers, did not protect an innocent young man.

All that said, what are we to do? We love hockey. We love the Hawks. Our lives are filled with routine and mundane tasks. This is our passion. Are we supposed to become Blues fans?

As for Bettman, when I was a kid I had to travel to my aunts house to watch the odd NHL game because our town did not have cable and the NHL was nowhere to be found. Now I can watch any game I want on my TV, my computer and my kids' phone. The game is fast. The players are amazing. These playoffs change game to game minute to minute. Is what he has accomplished for die hard fans that bad?
paulr
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: YYZ
Joined: 06.26.2011

May 10 @ 6:17 PM ET
IDK, Nylander has been far down the list of Toronto's issue to me. First and foremost is their coach if you ask me. He refusal to even change his lines is crazy.
- Elbows15

I didn’t say anyone was their main problem. The core players are for the most part invisible. I agree the coach is in over his head. If Paul Maurice is out coaching you, you’re not very good. As I said before this team is built for the regular season, and that’s on Dubas.
paulr
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: YYZ
Joined: 06.26.2011

May 10 @ 6:19 PM ET
It’s completely unacceptable that the NHL’s only punishment against the Blackhawks for covering up sexual assault was a $2 million fine. A fine that the Blackhawks have since recouped — and then some — in ticket revenue just hours after winning the draft lottery. It was unacceptable then, and it’s even more outrageous now.

The NHL already failed Kyle Beach — John Doe 1 in the case — in the decade it took for his story to come to light. Not to mention Brad Aldrich’s other unnamed victims who were allowed to languish as the Blackhawks kept their sexual assault reports private. And now, every cent the Blackhawks make off of Bedard is yet another black stain on the NHL for failing to enact any semblance of a proper punishments on this organization.
WAKIE UP "LITTLE" GARY BETTMAN, YOU JUST SET THE NATIONAL GARBAGE LEAGUE BACK TO THE OLD DAYS, NOT EVEN RANKED 4TH IN PROFESSIONAL SPORTS, BUT CLOSER TO 7TH!

- IBleedBlu1

Don’t you have a playoff beard to admire?
shidler
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: chicago, IL
Joined: 12.09.2015

May 10 @ 6:20 PM ET
Can we stop with this Bring Back Kane....First, we don't need Kane...Bedard has something Kane never had....High Character and the Edge....Remember all the all the immature/idiotic things Kane did.....Rumors swirling that John McDonough wanted to trade Kane because of his behavior...Bedard is a high character guy....He plays defense as well...If your going to get a mentor for Bedard, it certainly ain't Kane...
Aurora Hawk
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 10.06.2020

May 10 @ 6:29 PM ET
It’s completely unacceptable that the NHL’s only punishment against the Blackhawks for covering up sexual assault was a $2 million fine. A fine that the Blackhawks have since recouped — and then some — in ticket revenue just hours after winning the draft lottery. It was unacceptable then, and it’s even more outrageous now.

The NHL already failed Kyle Beach — John Doe 1 in the case — in the decade it took for his story to come to light. Not to mention Brad Aldrich’s other unnamed victims who were allowed to languish as the Blackhawks kept their sexual assault reports private. And now, every cent the Blackhawks make off of Bedard is yet another black stain on the NHL for failing to enact any semblance of a proper punishments on this organization.
WAKIE UP "LITTLE" GARY BETTMAN, YOU JUST SET THE NATIONAL GARBAGE LEAGUE BACK TO THE OLD DAYS, NOT EVEN RANKED 4TH IN PROFESSIONAL SPORTS, BUT CLOSER TO 7TH!

- IBleedBlu1


Maybe, maybe not. Everyone is entitled to an opinion even though most stink. So, what is the straight line connection betweeen Kyle Beach and draft lottery??? How do those connect, logically, fairly and within precedent?

You want to know what is absolutely unacceptable? Whining.

Get lost.
ObeseOprah
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 01.17.2014

May 10 @ 6:35 PM ET
On the bright side, there would be less complaining about Murphy.
- Elbows15

Every once in a while I wonder if Murphy isn’t that bad and I’m just prejudiced. I looked up Caleb Jones, a verified bad defender, and pulled up his short handed possession numbers against Murphy’s.
Caleb has a Corsi/Fenwick of 14/14. Murphy is around 11/12 depending on what years you use. This guy is not only as bad as poor Caleb, he’s worse. His relative numbers, which tell you how the teammates do when he is on the ice, are also negative. Meaning when he hops over the boards, the other coach gets a little excited.
LAHawk
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 11.02.2017

May 10 @ 6:39 PM ET
It’s completely unacceptable that the NHL’s only punishment against the Blackhawks for covering up sexual assault was a $2 million fine. A fine that the Blackhawks have since recouped — and then some — in ticket revenue just hours after winning the draft lottery. It was unacceptable then, and it’s even more outrageous now.

The NHL already failed Kyle Beach — John Doe 1 in the case — in the decade it took for his story to come to light. Not to mention Brad Aldrich’s other unnamed victims who were allowed to languish as the Blackhawks kept their sexual assault reports private. And now, every cent the Blackhawks make off of Bedard is yet another black stain on the NHL for failing to enact any semblance of a proper punishments on this organization.
WAKIE UP "LITTLE" GARY BETTMAN, YOU JUST SET THE NATIONAL GARBAGE LEAGUE BACK TO THE OLD DAYS, NOT EVEN RANKED 4TH IN PROFESSIONAL SPORTS, BUT CLOSER TO 7TH!

- IBleedBlu1


Let’s talk about 14 year old Jane Doe and Doug Gilmour. Did St. Louis face any punishment. Oh yeah, they shipped him to Calgary to fix the problem.
Mr Ricochet
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Joliet, IL
Joined: 04.19.2009

May 10 @ 6:41 PM ET
again, I never said at any time to spend it all right now.

I suggested contacting Kane's agent and if it makes sense signing him for 2 years with Domi to play with Bedard.

I am in favor IF, and it's a big IF, Matthews hits UFA in 2 years as a 27 yr old....yes I would sign him. A consistent 40 goals a year to play with Bedard. Could do a helluva lot worse.

I am 100% against signing Meier. Talk about ZERO leadership and everything Paul was preaching. he's exhibit 1A. Sadly what the Devils gave up for him they almost have to sign him.

Outside of that.....do not trade up and waste capital unless it's 100% "if this kid doens't hit you fire me" pick by Davidson. Otherwise load up and let the kids show you are they ready.....

- SteveRain


I don't think you've been watching Meir too closely in these playoffs. He's brought size, a player that has to be accounted for, is forechecking hard, playing physical, has been an agitator and getting a bunch of SOG/chances. He's brought a power forward element to NJ that they didn't have.

Yea, it would help if more of his many chances went in but he's still getting them.

As much as I'm a fan of Meir I don't wanna see the Hawks sign him. The timing isn't right. Love to sign a Meir type in 4ish yrs though.
stevefrmglencoe
Joined: 05.21.2013

May 10 @ 6:45 PM ET
I don't think you've been watching Meir too closely in these playoffs. He's brought size, a player that has to be accounted for, is forechecking hard, playing physical, has been an agitator and getting a bunch of SOG/chances. He's brought a power forward element to NJ that they didn't have.

Yea, it would help if more of his many chances went in but he's still getting them.

As much as I'm a fan of Meir I don't wanna see the Hawks sign him. The timing isn't right. Love to sign a Meir type in 4ish yrs though.

- Mr Ricochet


If Timo Meier's agent phones Davidson and tells him Meier wants to sign here, Davidson is going to have to seriously consider inking a market deal. Those guys don't come around often in the prime of their careers. He is 26 and produces. Would look good with Bedard.
paulr
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: YYZ
Joined: 06.26.2011

May 10 @ 6:48 PM ET
If Timo Meier's agent phones Davidson and tells him Meier wants to sign here, Davidson is going to have to seriously consider inking a market deal. Those guys don't come around often in the prime of their careers. He is 26 and produces. Would look good with Bedard.
- stevefrmglencoe

Meier isn’t going to want to sign with a team that is years away from contending.
paulr
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: YYZ
Joined: 06.26.2011

May 10 @ 6:52 PM ET
We can put the “Bedard won’t play in Chicago “ Bullpoop to rest.

https://youtu.be/QmYDIJpvWl8
Angotti
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 07.03.2019

May 10 @ 6:56 PM ET
If Timo Meier's agent phones Davidson and tells him Meier wants to sign here, Davidson is going to have to seriously consider inking a market deal. Those guys don't come around often in the prime of their careers. He is 26 and produces. Would look good with Bedard.
- stevefrmglencoe

I’m confused(not hard to accomplish)on all this Meier talk, is he not a RFA? If indeed he’s a RFA, then you would have to trade for him, no?
ObeseOprah
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 01.17.2014

May 10 @ 7:02 PM ET
I’m confused(not hard to accomplish)on all this Meier talk, is he not a RFA? If indeed he’s a RFA, then you would have to trade for him, no?
- Angotti

He is an RFA. We could offer sheet him, and we’re one of the few teams that has the draft capital to put in one of those absurd compensatory offers (multiple firsts). I don’t think it’s worth it after how much draft capital we built up.

I’d take a flier on Miles Wood. Solid depth forward who plays with speed.
BetweenTheDots
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 06.13.2015

May 10 @ 7:02 PM ET
I’m confused(not hard to accomplish)on all this Meier talk, is he not a RFA? If indeed he’s a RFA, then you would have to trade for him, no?
- Angotti


It don't matter, it's not going to happen, him or Matthews
BetweenTheDots
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 06.13.2015

May 10 @ 7:03 PM ET
He is an RFA. We could offer sheet him, and we’re one of the few teams that has the draft capital to put in one of those absurd compensatory offers (multiple firsts). I don’t think it’s worth it after how much draft capital we built up.

I’d take a flier on Miles Wood. Solid depth forward who plays with speed.

- ObeseOprah


I was thinking the same thing

Bring in Domi and AA again
LAHawk
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 11.02.2017

May 10 @ 7:35 PM ET
I’m confused(not hard to accomplish)on all this Meier talk, is he not a RFA? If indeed he’s a RFA, then you would have to trade for him, no?
- Angotti


Meier is a UFA
ChicagoHope
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Lyndon, IL
Joined: 08.13.2007

May 10 @ 7:35 PM ET
Looking at the current roster, who are our 12 forwards? Bedard, Reichel, Raddysh, Katchouk, Johnson, Guttman, Kurashev?, Anderson?, That’s 8, if the Hawks resign Kurashev and Anderson. Any prospects stand out with a shot of playing? Hayes, Greene, Nazar, etc…. There are spots there in the forward ranks, but I don’t see the Hawks rushing any kid that’s not ready. I am sure KD will have to add a couple of FA’s to help him get to the cap floor. Still a ways off before this forward group is really good.
Elbows15
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: I was going to do the math on this but I don't think it will help., IL
Joined: 08.04.2013

May 10 @ 7:37 PM ET
He is an RFA. We could offer sheet him, and we’re one of the few teams that has the draft capital to put in one of those absurd compensatory offers (multiple firsts). I don’t think it’s worth it after how much draft capital we built up.

I’d take a flier on Miles Wood. Solid depth forward who plays with speed.

- ObeseOprah

Hawks have enough of those guys. He has been benched a couple times in the playoffs and in and out of the line-up all season. I am not sure Katchouk isn't trending to be a better fit after his play in the 2nd half of the season.
Elbows15
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: I was going to do the math on this but I don't think it will help., IL
Joined: 08.04.2013

May 10 @ 7:39 PM ET
Meier is a UFA
- LAHawk


I thought so too but not according to CapFriendly. He is a RFA with arbitration rights. Plus, I recall his QO being a talking point before the trade. Its the same as Dinky's or close to it. 9M
Elbows15
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: I was going to do the math on this but I don't think it will help., IL
Joined: 08.04.2013

May 10 @ 7:42 PM ET
Looking at the current roster, who are our 12 forwards? Bedard, Reichel, Raddysh, Katchouk, Johnson, Guttman, Kurashev?, Anderson?, That’s 8, if the Hawks resign Kurashev and Anderson. Any prospects stand out with a shot of playing? Hayes, Greene, Nazar, etc…. There are spots there in the forward ranks, but I don’t see the Hawks rushing any kid that’s not ready. I am sure KD will have to add a couple of FA’s to help him get to the cap floor. Still a ways off before this forward group is really good.
- ChicagoHope

Greene and Nazar both are returning to college. Hayes most likely will go back to juniors cause that and the NHL are his only options.
Elbows15
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: I was going to do the math on this but I don't think it will help., IL
Joined: 08.04.2013

May 10 @ 7:44 PM ET
Miles Wood makes 3.2m? Hard pass on him if he is looking for more than that.
Angotti
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 07.03.2019

May 10 @ 7:45 PM ET
I thought so too but not according to CapFriendly. He is a RFA with arbitration rights. Plus, I recall his QO being a talking point before the trade. Its the same as Dinky's or close to it. 9M
- Elbows15

Yep, and KD would have to be nuts to give up draft capital to that extent, when in middle of rebuild.
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