4 days ago> https://www.hockeyfeed.co...ntially-pulling-a-lindros

this kid lives for hockey, no way he sits out.

# 28 and Murrray for a mid 2nd
Reily forbet and mid 2nd- lysell.
Laf for 2 3rds
Cal peterson Turcotte 2nd - future consideration
##11 and garland for #19
#13 for murphy and high 2nd

I did all of KD's work in 5 minutes
- kmw4631

I think so much of it will be real time on draft day with KD watching who falls RE: our #19.

I see #28 and Murray for our #35 (I think) much like the Mrazek trade last draft.

As to Turcotte, I see him being traded for another prospect, perhaps another underachieving one where a change in environment could benefit them.

4 days ago> https://www.hockeyfeed.co...ntially-pulling-a-lindros

this kid lives for hockey, no way he sits out.
- ReggieFleming

Thanks Reg.

From Pope in the Sun Times on Hawks scouting director Doneghey:

He loves Fantilli’s drive to win — so strong he had to learn how to rein it in this past season — and his beyond-his-years maturity.

He’s amazed by Michkov’s ability to score, be it on the rush, in traffic, around the net off a rebound or on the flank of a power play. He insists Michkov’s Russian pro contract (with three years left) won’t scare NHL teams as much as some experts have speculated.

He was impressed by Carlsson’s strength gains last summer, which propelled the Swede into the first tier of prospects. More recently, he believes Smith’s status also was bolstered by a fantastic showing at this year’s under-18 world championships.

Also:

“I don’t know who’s going to be there because I think the board is going to go a little bit wacky after eighth or ninth, depending on if people take defensemen,” Doneghey said. “Hopefully we get a guy that can skate really fast, has quick hands, has a high hockey IQ and is competitive.

“Maybe a guy falls. Maybe we take a chance on a guy that we like but we can’t get [in the second round, but who is] there at 19th.”

Right on cue, Tab Bamford over at Bleacher Nation has an article regarding how the Hawks can move up in the draft. He cites 3 ways this could be done and gives past examples of the cost to move up.

1. Trade a star player for a pick. Ruled out because the Hawks don't have the star power.

2. Package a 2nd or more with a 1st to move up a few slots. Looks possible.

3. Take on some dead money along with a 1st to help a cap strapped team. Also possible.

https://www.bleachernatio...he-draft-part-i-the-cost/
- boilermaker100

Thank you as always, BM. ..... The following copy and paste surprised me and caught my eye. If KD can find someone to drop looks like his #19 and a 2nd will make that work.


"There are a few examples of deals since the 2019 draft that were straight picks-for-picks transactions. With the Blackhawks owning four selections in the second round and two more in the third, this feels like a possible scenario for Davidson to investigate, so let’s consider what those deals were as benchmarks for the cost to jump a few spot.

In 2019, the Arizona Coyotes moved up three spots — from No. 14 to No. 11 — in a trade with the Philadelphia Flyers. The cost: Arizona included a mid-second round pick (No. 45) to make the transaction work for Philly.
Arizona drafted defenseman Victor Soderstrom at No. 11. Philadelphia drafted defenseman Cam York and No. 14 and packaged No. 45 with a third-round pick to move up in the second-round.

In 2021, the Detroit Red Wings moved up eight spots — from No. 22 to No. 14 — in a trade with the Dallas Stars. The cost: Detroit also send a second-round pick (No. 47) and a fifth-round pick (No. 137) to Dallas to make the transaction.
This feels a little closer to the Blackhawks looking to move up from 19 to a top-15 spot. And, considering the Blackhawks’ stockpile of draft assets, it feels achievable with what they have available. The Red Wings drafted goaltender Sebastian Cossa at 14. Dallas did well; they selected forward Wyatt Johnson at 22. The Stars also drafted Artem Grushnikov in the second round and Jack Bar in the fifth."

Anyone taking Seattle Kraken to win game seven (and the series) tonight?

I remain original choice with Dallas Stars
- jhawk59

Dallas is at home so they would be the obvious choice, but they only have one more regulation win than Seattle during the regular season.

What struck me during the playoffs is how often a team will get a few goals in quick succession. Seems like it is happening more often this year, or that may just be my impression. Seattle has done this a few times.

Seattle has playoff vet Grubauer in goal, and they play fast and have nothing to lose. They will have a chance if they can jump out to the lead.

Not bold enough to bet on them to win, but they have a decent chance. Wouldn't have bet on them to beat Colorado, either.

Thank you as always, BM. ..... The following copy and paste surprised me and caught my eye. If KD can find someone to drop looks like his #19 and a 2nd will make that work.


"There are a few examples of deals since the 2019 draft that were straight picks-for-picks transactions. With the Blackhawks owning four selections in the second round and two more in the third, this feels like a possible scenario for Davidson to investigate, so let’s consider what those deals were as benchmarks for the cost to jump a few spot.

In 2019, the Arizona Coyotes moved up three spots — from No. 14 to No. 11 — in a trade with the Philadelphia Flyers. The cost: Arizona included a mid-second round pick (No. 45) to make the transaction work for Philly.
Arizona drafted defenseman Victor Soderstrom at No. 11. Philadelphia drafted defenseman Cam York and No. 14 and packaged No. 45 with a third-round pick to move up in the second-round.

In 2021, the Detroit Red Wings moved up eight spots — from No. 22 to No. 14 — in a trade with the Dallas Stars. The cost: Detroit also send a second-round pick (No. 47) and a fifth-round pick (No. 137) to Dallas to make the transaction.
This feels a little closer to the Blackhawks looking to move up from 19 to a top-15 spot. And, considering the Blackhawks’ stockpile of draft assets, it feels achievable with what they have available. The Red Wings drafted goaltender Sebastian Cossa at 14. Dallas did well; they selected forward Wyatt Johnson at 22. The Stars also drafted Artem Grushnikov in the second round and Jack Bar in the fifth."
- Mr Ricochet

If that’s the cost then moving from 19 into the top-14 should be a lot more feasible than originally anticipated.

Anyone taking Seattle Kraken to win game seven (and the series) tonight?

I remain original choice with Dallas Stars
- jhawk59

Since it won't cost me a nickel to be wrong I'm going with the underdog, play hungry and fast Kraken. .. Plus, the Stars moved from the great hockey state of MN so I gotta root against them.

If that’s the cost then moving from 19 into the top-14 should be a lot more feasible than originally anticipated.
- TommyHawk

Surprised me too, TH. Not only that it only cost a 2nd and the 23rd overall to move to 14th, and also the other examples in the article., that a 2nd rd pick is that valuable to GM's.

And with 4 2nd rd picks seems KD has some options.

to be clear, I have no idea, just that things are different, and not sure it makes any sense for the player.
- vabeachbear

KD sends John Scott to play in his junior league with a new birth certificate. " I make you a deal you can't refuse."

Thank you as always, BM. ..... The following copy and paste surprised me and caught my eye. If KD can find someone to drop looks like his #19 and a 2nd will make that work.


"There are a few examples of deals since the 2019 draft that were straight picks-for-picks transactions. With the Blackhawks owning four selections in the second round and two more in the third, this feels like a possible scenario for Davidson to investigate, so let’s consider what those deals were as benchmarks for the cost to jump a few spot.

In 2019, the Arizona Coyotes moved up three spots — from No. 14 to No. 11 — in a trade with the Philadelphia Flyers. The cost: Arizona included a mid-second round pick (No. 45) to make the transaction work for Philly.
Arizona drafted defenseman Victor Soderstrom at No. 11. Philadelphia drafted defenseman Cam York and No. 14 and packaged No. 45 with a third-round pick to move up in the second-round.

In 2021, the Detroit Red Wings moved up eight spots — from No. 22 to No. 14 — in a trade with the Dallas Stars. The cost: Detroit also send a second-round pick (No. 47) and a fifth-round pick (No. 137) to Dallas to make the transaction.
This feels a little closer to the Blackhawks looking to move up from 19 to a top-15 spot. And, considering the Blackhawks’ stockpile of draft assets, it feels achievable with what they have available. The Red Wings drafted goaltender Sebastian Cossa at 14. Dallas did well; they selected forward Wyatt Johnson at 22. The Stars also drafted Artem Grushnikov in the second round and Jack Bar in the fifth."
- Mr Ricochet

I don't see Murphy's name in that deal.

The 4 2nd rounders got me to thinking back to the last time that happened: 2010

Blackhawks picks:
35 - Ludwig Rensfeldt - F - never came over from Sweden
54 - Justin Holl - D - never signed, played 1 yr Indy/Rockford, went to Toronto
58 - Kent Simpson - G - 1 career NHL game, went to NYI with Leddy in cap dump
60 - Stephen Johns - D - went to Dallas with Sharp in cap dump, did OK in Dallas, retired due to medical

1 NHL game for the Blackhawks between all 4, even though Holl and Johns played a lot after leaving. If I remember correctly, they had another #2 and traded it for Jimmy Hayes.

Blackhawks drafted Kevin Hayes #24 in Round 1, a pretty good pick but he never signed. 3 decent players, and 2 borderline NHLers, with 6 picks.

What if: Could they have traded #24 and #35 (and maybe something more) for #16 - Vladimir Tarasenko?

Since it won't cost me a nickel to be wrong I'm going with the underdog, play hungry and fast Kraken. .. Plus, the Stars moved from the great hockey state of MN so I gotta root against them.
- Mr Ricochet

Looks like that Dallas 3rd would move up 2 slots if Seattle wins, since FLA is in the ECF.

Hawk fans will like this from Elite Prospects in Nazar's draft yr titled "Why Frank Nazar has the highest offensive upside of any player in the 2022 NHL Draft".

https://www.youtube.com/w...ab_channel=EliteProspects

Looks like that Dallas 3rd would move up 2 slots if Seattle wins, since FLA is in the ECF.
- totem

Did not know this. Thanks, totem....... Go Kraken.

Looking at some film of Sam Honzek kid shows some really nice balanced skating, nimble feet and a nice short area quickness both in his hands and feet. Even jumps on his edges pretty good... Remember the kid is 6ft 4in but listed at 185 lbs and it usually takes bigger guys to grow out of being a bit uncoordinated. No such problem for Honzek.

Stats: https://www.eliteprospect...ayer/578968/samuel-honzek

Film: https://www.youtube.com/w...ab_channel=RecrutesHockey

Hawk fans will like this from Elite Prospects in Nazar's draft yr titled "Why Frank Nazar has the highest offensive upside of any player in the 2022 NHL Draft".

https://www.youtube.com/w...ab_channel=EliteProspects
- Mr Ricochet

Nice highlight videos. He looks pretty stable going through the middle and not getting bounced around. Hope he can continue that at higher levels.

Looking at some film of Sam Honzek kid shows some really nice balanced skating, nimble feet and a nice short area quickness both in his hands and feet. Even jumps on his edges pretty good... Remember the kid is 6ft 4in but listed at 185 lbs and it usually takes bigger guys to grow out of being a bit uncoordinated. No such problem for Honzek.

Stats: https://www.eliteprospect...ayer/578968/samuel-honzek

Film: https://www.youtube.com/w...ab_channel=RecrutesHockey
- Mr Ricochet

The youtube video shows why Honzek is moving up the draft boards. I saw him once this year here in Seattle and he was on the 3rd game in 3 days, so he started a little slow. He did have one monster PP shift, held the puck for most of it, dug it out behind the net, had 2 shots and passed to teammates for a couple more. No one could get the puck away from him.

Wrote post-game notes - was more impressed than I remembered being. See Dec 11 entry here:

https://www.hockeybuzz.co...read.php?thread_id=181442

Surprised me too, TH. Not only that it only cost a 2nd and the 23rd overall to move to 14th, and also the other examples in the article., that a 2nd rd pick is that valuable to GM's.

And with 4 2nd rd picks seems KD has some options.
- Mr Ricochet

VAN #11 and PIT #14 are two teams in that range without a 2nd round pick. Maybe they can be enticed to trade for #19 and get a 2nd.

Also WPG at #18 does not have a 2nd, but I don't think it will be worth it to trade a pick, unless it's a 4th or 5th, to move up a slot. Also would they be willing to trade given they are in the same division?

Looking at some film of Sam Honzek kid shows some really nice balanced skating, nimble feet and a nice short area quickness both in his hands and feet. Even jumps on his edges pretty good... Remember the kid is 6ft 4in but listed at 185 lbs and it usually takes bigger guys to grow out of being a bit uncoordinated. No such problem for Honzek.

Stats: https://www.eliteprospect...ayer/578968/samuel-honzek

Film: https://www.youtube.com/w...ab_channel=RecrutesHockey
- Mr Ricochet

Some more extensive film on Honzek who gets more and more interesting watching more of him. Skating really jumps out. Kid shows breakaway speed, a really nice burst in his first step and is very comfortable in open ice. Really quick hands, can dangle and shows nice vision. .. Like how he often follows his shot to the net. .. Kid is playing PK and helps get a couple shorties.

He's playing center too and seems responsibly doing so. .... A whole lot to like here.

https://www.youtube.com/w...Y&ab_channel=HSDProspects

The youtube video shows why Honzek is moving up the draft boards. I saw him once this year here in Seattle and he was on the 3rd game in 3 days, so he started a little slow. He did have one monster PP shift, held the puck for most of it, dug it out behind the net, had 2 shots and passed to teammates for a couple more. No one could get the puck away from him.

Wrote post-game notes - was more impressed than I remembered being. See Dec 11 entry here:

https://www.hockeybuzz.co...read.php?thread_id=181442
- totem

Forgot you were in SEA and posting notes on what you saw. You getting to playoff games? Saw 2 periods on the SEA-WPG series and plan on watching tomorrow night. Enjoying seeing Benson with WPG. ... Kid is as advertised, very tricky and dangerous offensively.

Forgot you were in SEA and posting notes on what you saw. You getting to playoff games? Saw 2 periods on the SEA-WPG series and plan on watching tomorrow night. Enjoying seeing Benson with WPG. ... Kid is as advertised, very tricky and dangerous offensively.
- Mr Ricochet

Actually haven't been getting to any games recently. This SEA-WPG series should be a good one though.

I am all in on #19 and #35 for VAN #11 if Benson were to drop that far.

Colby Barlow at 6ft 1in 187 lbs a LW showing some very nice speed, a power game, one helluva shot and lots of goals.

Stats: https://www.eliteprospect...layer/603562/colby-barlow

Film: https://www.youtube.com/w..._channel=bluechipprospect

Wiz,
Where to you have Gabriel Perreault going? Is he a possibility at #19? The son of former NHL'er Yanic put up crazy numbers for the USNT this year. 132 points in only 63 games this year. Looked like he put up good numbers for the Swedish national team too a few weeks ago too. I've seen some mock drafts that have him as high as #10, and some that didn't have him in the 1st round.
- spudrock512

I kinda doubt he gets to #19.
He was raised in teh Chicago burbs, is said to be the one player on the Will Smith - Ryan Leonard that is teh catalyst.

It has much to do with the fact he is a lightweight it will be a few more years before he adds girth.

He is still #11 on my seven round mock which I am doing the final revisions on...in Round six and changing the order, dropped out some prospects and added a few new ones.

Actually haven't been getting to any games recently. This SEA-WPG series should be a good one though.

I am all in on #19 and #35 for VAN #11 if Benson were to drop that far.
- totem

I wouldn't trade that #35 along with #19 and Benson is ^th on my new list with Barlow #7

We simply do not know who will go where after #5 and the more defenders off the board before #35, and before # 19 we win.