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Elbows15
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: I was going to do the math on this but I don't think it will help., IL
Joined: 08.04.2013

May 11 @ 5:38 PM ET
I get what you are saying, but they have that guy already signed. About seven of them. I'd much rather (and think this is the way they end up going) that they find some trade targets and FA's that can actually play further up in the lineup.
- Chunk

Yeah. i agree. No need to bring Juju back at all. Tho, while not a fan of his, he did play well on the line with Anderson and Katchouk to finish out the season.
LAHawk
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 11.02.2017

May 11 @ 5:55 PM ET
Yeah. i agree. No need to bring Juju back at all. Tho, while not a fan of his, he did play well on the line with Anderson and Katchouk to finish out the season.
- Elbows15


Hawks currently per cap friendly have 13 players signed and a cap hit of $41Mil. That doesn't include Soderblom, Reichel, and one of phillips or Vlasic which are 3 spots and $3 mil. more. Assume Kurashev gets $1.5 mil, Anderson gets $1 mil. that is now 18 players and approx $47 mil. You are still $16mil. below the floor and 5 spots.

That leaves room for 2 more defenseman and 3 forwards ( 2 of Phillips. Kaiser. Vlasic start in Rockford) This is assuming Bjork, Wagner, Mitchell, and C. Jones are not offered contracts and AA is not resigned.

Hawks need to spend some money on some NHL players. Will be interesting in who KD brings in.

jhawk59
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 02.15.2013

May 11 @ 6:04 PM ET
Let’s say Bedard is on the top line and Reichel is on the 2nd line. Assume KD signs or trades for two top six forwards. What two current Hawks fill out the top six? Tyler Johnson? Raddysh? D!ckinson?
Athansiou- just say No!
Kurashev- just say No!

- Ztra


The last two are affordable even if they stay for two seasons. Other than Domi, I would concentrate whatever assets is necessary to bring in the tough forward as Bedard linematte. As well, from AHL possibly tough even fringe NHL players who fill in due to injuries.

No need to move prospects, picks after you get the bodyguard(s) for Bedard. The players we don’t want will be moved sooner or later

The year after next is the first year to get sort of excited about the rebuild. This is due to the graduation and matriculation of dmen and forwards from the AHL. We begin to see their game develop and improve playing regularly in the NHL 2024/25

The best bets are: Vlasic, DelMastro, Phillips, Korchinski, one of our goaltender prospects, and just maybe a forward drafted in 2o23 and or 2024. A tier I top seven forward 2024 MIGHT step in right away? I do predict though that forwards drafted in 2023 and 2024 could benefit from some AHL development

Reichel, Domi, Bedard + who and how many forwards could we be happy to see in the top six?

The top six however may include an average to slightly below average wing riding shotgun with Bedard

Athansiou and Tinordi could still fit in their correct roles. To be honest, I rather retain Engeland than C Jones. As for other’s departure, surely Murphy who may change address next trade deadline

This all seem reasonable to you
SaskHawkFan
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: SK
Joined: 05.18.2014

May 11 @ 6:12 PM ET
Sorry I started answering and lost it before I finished...but will answer you soon.

Yager was always an astounding shot and the release is terrific. Gets it off in tight space. He really good while carrying, to adjust his positioning to get the goalie to bit and then he shots for where he was.
Solid up and down centre wing who isn't gonna woe you laterally as much a patrol up and down like centres have to do.
The size in under 5' 11" and 175+ but there isn't any dynamic take you out of your seat, but he is a terrific junior player whose attributes haven't faded as much as the mockers have found new flavors to drool over.

Yeah Brayden Yager there at #19/20? a lot of defenders would have to fill the space above that 319/20 for that to happen I think.

- wiz1901


Saw Vancouver's scouts here alot this season. i live close to the rink and walk past alot during game days. I would love to have Yager, doubt he falls to us at 19 though.
SaskHawkFan
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: SK
Joined: 05.18.2014

May 11 @ 6:15 PM ET
I was lucky enough to get to watch Bedard a handful of times this year. (my son got to almost all the Pats home games) and one thing i know from all the Regina people ive talked to. We are getting not only a very good hockey player but a VERY decent young man! Very community minded and down to earth. spent alot of time with the youngsters in Regina.
Popsghostly
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Wheaton, IL
Joined: 08.11.2017

May 11 @ 6:18 PM ET
The last two are affordable even if they stay for two seasons. Other than Domi, I would concentrate whatever assets is necessary to bring in the tough forward as Bedard linematte. As well, from AHL possibly tough even fringe NHL players who fill in due to injuries.

No need to move prospects, picks after you get the bodyguard(s) for Bedard. The players we don’t want will be moved sooner or later

The year after next is the first year to get sort of excited about the rebuild. This is due to the graduation and matriculation of dmen and forwards from the AHL. We begin to see their game develop and improve playing regularly in the NHL 2024/25

The best bets are: Vlasic, DelMastro, Phillips, Korchinski, one of our goaltender prospects, and just maybe a forward drafted in 2o23 and or 2024. A tier I top seven forward 2024 MIGHT step in right away? I do predict though that forwards drafted in 2023 and 2024 could benefit from some AHL development

Reichel, Domi, Bedard + who and how many forwards could we be happy to see in the top six?

The top six however may include an average to slightly below average wing riding shotgun with Bedard

Athansiou and Tinordi could still fit in their correct roles. To be honest, I rather retain Engeland than C Jones. As for other’s departure, surely Murphy who may change address next trade deadline

This all seem reasonable to you

- jhawk59


The Bruins may have cap issues if they try to resign Bertuzzi. What about a trade for Hall whose contract runs until 24-25? Given their cap issues, maybe he can be acquired for pennies on the dollar. He does a 10 NMC clause though. With his expiring contract, seems to be a perfect linemate for Bedard for this season.
SC116
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 08.29.2015

May 11 @ 6:21 PM ET
I was wondering how I can get the "Wizard 3" off my black Blackhawk sweater?
- wiz1901


Might not help you know with it - but always pay for them to be sown on a name plate --- if you ever feel the need to remove it, just slice off the threads where the plate is sewn on ... done. Otoh - Wizard 3 isn't terrible (unless you're selling it to someone) --- it isn't like having some flash in the pan, has-been, or never-was ... er, like I got a few

Good luck Wiz -you'll be fine, I'm sure. Where there is a will, there is a way, mate.
totem
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Seattle, WA
Joined: 06.14.2017

May 11 @ 6:23 PM ET
Saw Vancouver's scouts here alot this season. i live close to the rink and walk past alot during game days. I would love to have Yager, doubt he falls to us at 19 though.
- SaskHawkFan


If he got to #14, would you trade #19 + #44 (or #19 + #35) for him?
SC116
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 08.29.2015

May 11 @ 6:27 PM ET
The presentation of the draft was (frank)ed up. The draft itself was above board.
- paulr


Agreed - it was so clinical, it was really impressive. I saw the Bettman draw first (actually never saw the ESPN thing, and maybe making an entertainment show out of that is a silly idea) -I'd gather see the actual process instead of something clumsy and flashy- just all business.
SaskHawkFan
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: SK
Joined: 05.18.2014

May 11 @ 6:29 PM ET
If he got to #14, would you trade #19 + #44 (or #19 + #35) for him?
- totem


No i think if we were to use 19+35 we could possibly make it to 12. gonna all depend on who falls. We have the draft capital and i like the moving up idea.
totem
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Seattle, WA
Joined: 06.14.2017

May 11 @ 6:36 PM ET
No i think if we were to use 19+35 we could possibly make it to 12. gonna all depend on who falls. We have the draft capital and i like the moving up idea.
- SaskHawkFan


Think I would consider #19 + #44 to get Yager at #14, #19 + #35 does seem like a lot.

If Benson fell to #11, I would try to get there with #19 + #35.
TommyHawk
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 05.23.2013

May 11 @ 6:37 PM ET
Any NBA fans here? Heard a comparison that I now can’t get out of my head:

“McDavid is to LeBron as Bedard is to Steph Curry”.

I’m not sure why it makes sense. Maybe the razzle dazzle to Curry’s electrifying offense and shooting ability from anywhere is that of Connor’s incredible shot from anywhere?
SaskHawkFan
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: SK
Joined: 05.18.2014

May 11 @ 6:43 PM ET
Think I would consider #19 + #44 to get Yager at #14, #19 + #35 does seem like a lot.

If Benson fell to #11, I would try to get there with #19 + #35.

- totem



id make that deal all day long for Benson.

I love Yager and ive reffed him in bantam and hes a saskie. if hes there at 19 i would be thrilled.


Doubt Benson falls out of the top 10. but who knows anything can happen on draft day!
totem
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Seattle, WA
Joined: 06.14.2017

May 11 @ 6:55 PM ET
id make that deal all day long for Benson.

I love Yager and ive reffed him in bantam and hes a saskie. if hes there at 19 i would be thrilled.


Doubt Benson falls out of the top 10. but who knows anything can happen on draft day!

- SaskHawkFan


FWIW, here's one mock that has Benson at 12.

https://thehockeywriters....3-nhl-mock-draft-lottery/

Doesn't seem likely to me either, but it is the smaller guys that have a better chance of falling (DeBrincat, Teravainen, Caufield etc. notwithstanding).
ryanzlakings
Los Angeles Kings
Location: San diego, CA
Joined: 07.13.2010

May 11 @ 7:36 PM ET
fixed. thats what you are getting.
boilermaker100
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 06.23.2015

May 11 @ 7:41 PM ET
Hawks currently per cap friendly have 13 players signed and a cap hit of $41Mil. That doesn't include Soderblom, Reichel, and one of phillips or Vlasic which are 3 spots and $3 mil. more. Assume Kurashev gets $1.5 mil, Anderson gets $1 mil. that is now 18 players and approx $47 mil. You are still $16mil. below the floor and 5 spots.

That leaves room for 2 more defenseman and 3 forwards ( 2 of Phillips. Kaiser. Vlasic start in Rockford) This is assuming Bjork, Wagner, Mitchell, and C. Jones are not offered contracts and AA is not resigned.

Hawks need to spend some money on some NHL players. Will be interesting in who KD brings in.

- LAHawk


Sign
Domi 3x4.5M
Compher 3x4.5M
Reaves or Lemieux 2x2M

Try to trade for 1 of
Garland (VAN) 5M
Granlund (PIT) 5M
Mantha (WSH) 5.7M
Hopefully a sweetener comes along with them.

There's 16M

AA as a fallback 2x3.25M

Edit - See how desperate LA and TOR are to unload Petersen and Murray. Can bury or buy out either one adding a few million toward the cap floor.
Chunk
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Why did I move back here again?, IL
Joined: 11.06.2015

May 11 @ 7:42 PM ET
fixed. thats what you are getting.
- ryanzlakings


Is this that abstract art stuff where you have to figure out for yourself what it means?
Mr Ricochet
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Joliet, IL
Joined: 04.19.2009

May 11 @ 7:44 PM ET
When I research players on YouTube where they break down film I've found Elite Prospects to be the best at it. Here's something from EP they title "why is Bedard a hockey genius" where they break down film. Helpful and interesting IMO. https://www.youtube.com/w...ab_channel=EliteProspects
Matt_Foleys_bro
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 07.11.2012

May 11 @ 7:49 PM ET
Sorry to rehash this, but I'd like to throw in my opinion. We've heard all the rumblings that Bedard shouldn't come to Chicago because of the Beach incident. It was awful what happened, nobody doubts that. But everything's already out, fines levied, people fired, victim compensated, etc. But, because Chicago won the lottery, now it's an issue again. Would it have been an issue if we got the 2nd or 3rd pick? Highly doubtful. I didn't think there was this amount of whining and b1tching when this incident first came out. Although the haters say the penalties weren't enough, but the NHL decided the penalties, not the Hawks, the haters, or this blog site.

I'm sure this organization will have a microscope up its butt for some time looking into everything from who blows their nose to who's having what type of bowel movement. There is a completely new regime in charge making sure everything is right. I'm sure perception will remain an issue for some, and for some time. Because it happened here once, it will happen again kind of thing. I can see their issue. Then hearing it from washed up superstar who've been out of the limelight for too long. Geez. You win the lottery and the haters come out from under their rocks.

This all being said, wouldn't you think that this might actually be one of the "safest" (for lack of a better word) organizations to be part of now? Transparency will be their middle name.

Welcome Connor Bedard!
From a die-hard Blackhawks fan.
Elbows15
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: I was going to do the math on this but I don't think it will help., IL
Joined: 08.04.2013

May 11 @ 7:51 PM ET
Hawks currently per cap friendly have 13 players signed and a cap hit of $41Mil. That doesn't include Soderblom, Reichel, and one of phillips or Vlasic which are 3 spots and $3 mil. more. Assume Kurashev gets $1.5 mil, Anderson gets $1 mil. that is now 18 players and approx $47 mil. You are still $16mil. below the floor and 5 spots.

That leaves room for 2 more defenseman and 3 forwards ( 2 of Phillips. Kaiser. Vlasic start in Rockford) This is assuming Bjork, Wagner, Mitchell, and C. Jones are not offered contracts and AA is not resigned.

Hawks need to spend some money on some NHL players. Will be interesting in who KD brings in.

- LAHawk

Jesper Fast is a guy who would be a nice guy to bring in on a 2 year deal. Maybe overpay him a bit to entice him to sign. More of a 3rd line guy for sure but he plays exactly the way LR and KD are trying to build.

I think Mitchell will get either a 1 year deal or his rights will be part of a trade. LA is a team the Hawks could help out in a legit type of trade. Iaffalo may be a guy they can replace in house and he only has 2 years on his deal. I mean if they are looking to create some space to re-sign Gavrikov or Korpisalo.

I mean the UFA list isn't all that great and it seems like KD is looking to sign guys for a year or two at most.
Elbows15
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: I was going to do the math on this but I don't think it will help., IL
Joined: 08.04.2013

May 11 @ 7:55 PM ET
If he got to #14, would you trade #19 + #44 (or #19 + #35) for him?
- totem

Nah. There will still some very good options available at 19 to not give away any picks.

Elbows15
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: I was going to do the math on this but I don't think it will help., IL
Joined: 08.04.2013

May 11 @ 7:57 PM ET
Any NBA fans here? Heard a comparison that I now can’t get out of my head:

“McDavid is to LeBron as Bedard is to Steph Curry”.

I’m not sure why it makes sense. Maybe the razzle dazzle to Curry’s electrifying offense and shooting ability from anywhere is that of Connor’s incredible shot from anywhere?

- TommyHawk

I am thinking its more about their physical attributes than their playing styles. *shrugs*
paulr
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: YYZ
Joined: 06.26.2011

May 11 @ 7:58 PM ET
Jesper Fast is a guy who would be a nice guy to bring in on a 2 year deal. Maybe overpay him a bit to entice him to sign. More of a 3rd line guy for sure but he plays exactly the way LR and KD are trying to build.

I think Mitchell will get either a 1 year deal or his rights will be part of a trade. LA is a team the Hawks could help out in a legit type of trade. Iaffalo may be a guy they can replace in house and he only has 2 years on his deal. I mean if they are looking to create some space to re-sign Gavrikov or Korpisalo.

I mean the UFA list isn't all that great and it seems like KD is looking to sign guys for a year or two at most.

- Elbows15

LA, Vancouver and Toronto are three teams who will have to make moves. There is no way Toronto can keep Murray. Vancouver have to shed salary to be cap compliant and I think LA needs to shed salary to complete some signings. You mention Iaffalo from LA, what would you like to see come back from Toronto or Vancouver?
BetweenTheDots
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 06.13.2015

May 11 @ 8:01 PM ET
Sign
Domi 3x4.5M
Compher 3x4.5M
Reaves or Lemieux 2x2M

Try to trade for 1 of
Garland (VAN) 5M
Granlund (PIT) 5M
Mantha (WSH) 5.7M
Hopefully a sweetener comes along with them.

There's 16M

AA as a fallback 2x3.25M

Edit - See how desperate LA and TOR are to unload Petersen and Murray. Can bury or buy out either one adding a few million toward the cap floor.

- boilermaker100


You know that #11 pick is available i still think if you take Garland and Myers trade our 35th pick for that 11th i think they make that deal, you can have Bedard the 11th and most likely 19th pick
BetweenTheDots
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 06.13.2015

May 11 @ 8:07 PM ET
I am so very curious to see how things go this season, i look back on the generational players entering the league none of them had trouble putting points up, this will be very very interesting. I mean no one expects him to be a point per game player his rookie year? We'll see especially if his shot is better than McDavids.
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