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LAHawk
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 11.02.2017

May 10 @ 10:40 PM ET
Sure, as long as the prospect is Brandt Clarke.
- DarthKane


I would think more a forward Kupari, Kaliyev, Fergamo, or Anderson-Dolan.
jhawk59
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 02.15.2013

May 10 @ 11:07 PM ET
I would think more a forward Kupari, Kaliyev, Fergamo, or Anderson-Dolan.
- LAHawk

Kings should be picky who they move. They have a few young guys - including who you mention - and not each of them is going to figure prominently in Kings forwards top scorers. How to replace Kopitar (but when) and the goaltender situation is their top concern. Maybe one from that group but not two or one plus not too high draft choice - for Mrazek who is just ok but maybe a bit injury prone

That is from a Kings perspective

The Blackhawks could go out and sign someone to play goal as a stopgag measure so sure they listen. Not necessarily the exact type skill forwards KD wants?

And this is from Blackhawks perspective.
jhawk59
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 02.15.2013

May 10 @ 11:19 PM ET
Wow Toronto actually sacrificed the body to win a playoff game.
- BetweenTheDots

Don’t bet on Toronto winning three more even if they toughen up

Do not be surprised if Edmonton advances. Most teams in the league will have trouble containing the dynamic duo and Edm propensity to rush out of the gate to a big lead.

I think Dallas will stop Edmonton big push better then Vegas and I see Dallas stronger & deeper than Vegas. Tempted to say Florida looses to Dallas for the Holy Grail

I also believe if Edmonton gets ahead on the scoresheet vs Dallas, either same game or next game Dallas roars back. Edmonton cannot contain Dallas as well as they keep Vegas in check. Part of Edmonton staying ahead is puck control; the Oilers won’t win pick control vs Dallas.
paulr
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: YYZ
Joined: 06.26.2011

May 10 @ 11:46 PM ET
Apparently Vancouver is trying to move Conor Garland but need to add an incentive to make him go away. $4.9M for three more years.
ObeseOprah
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 01.17.2014

May 10 @ 11:53 PM ET
Apparently Vancouver is trying to move Conor Garland but need to add an incentive to make him go away. $4.9M for three more years.
- paulr

Sign me up. Guy is small but can score on very bad teams.
Another guy the hawks should sign/bring back is Tyler Motte. It’s Bedard’s favorite player from Vancouver and he’s a solid middle six board battler. There’s really not much top line talent available aside from Kane and O’Reilly. Maybe some of the cap strapped teams like Colorado, Toronto, Vegas, and Rangers need to move guys but we shouldn’t offer any picks, just relief.
jhawk59
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 02.15.2013

May 11 @ 12:06 AM ET
Sign me up. Guy is small but can score on very bad teams.
Another guy the hawks should sign/bring back is Tyler Motte. It’s Bedard’s favorite player from Vancouver and he’s a solid middle six board battler. There’s really not much top line talent available aside from Kane and O’Reilly. Maybe some of the cap strapped teams like Colorado, Toronto, Vegas, and Rangers need to move guys but we shouldn’t offer any picks, just relief.

- ObeseOprah

The Avalanche can subtract Landeskog, Niculishken, probably one more forward then how close to salary cap are they?

Soderblom re-signed cap hit $962K

If Blackhawks have rookies camp and or a pre training camp rookies tournament, may get first dibs on seeing Bedard
DarthKane
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 5.13.4.9
Joined: 02.23.2012

May 11 @ 12:16 AM ET
Sign me up. Guy is small but can score on very bad teams.
Another guy the hawks should sign/bring back is Tyler Motte. It’s Bedard’s favorite player from Vancouver and he’s a solid middle six board battler. There’s really not much top line talent available aside from Kane and O’Reilly. Maybe some of the cap strapped teams like Colorado, Toronto, Vegas, and Rangers need to move guys but we shouldn’t offer any picks, just relief.

- ObeseOprah


I’d support KD acquiring Garland, as long as the price isn’t too high. I wouldn’t part with #19/#20. Maybe one of the 2nd round picks, just not Chicago’s.
bjphawkfan
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Woodridge, IL
Joined: 07.02.2016

May 11 @ 12:21 AM ET
Sharp and Ladd were not drafted by the Hawks.
- LAHawk

I never said they were. I said we need those type of players.
bjphawkfan
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Woodridge, IL
Joined: 07.02.2016

May 11 @ 12:52 AM ET
I know. Versteeg wasn't our draft pick. These are the types of players I would like to see on the team. Along with a Shaw.
wiz1901
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: DraftSite com, IL
Joined: 05.14.2008

May 11 @ 1:30 AM ET
I know. Versteeg wasn't our draft pick..
- bjphawkfan



Or Ben Eager (PHX-PHilly-Chic) Cristael Huet (LAkings-Mont-Wash-Chic), Antti Niemi(Lahden Pelicans-Chic), Madden and sub Jordan Hendry(UofAlaska-Admirals of Norfolk, hawk affiliate-Chic)
35Tony0
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Springfield, IL
Joined: 05.10.2015

May 11 @ 6:55 AM ET
Can a player on their ELC get endorsement deals?
BetweenTheDots
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 06.13.2015

May 11 @ 7:02 AM ET
I’d support KD acquiring Garland, as long as the price isn’t too high. I wouldn’t part with #19/#20. Maybe one of the 2nd round picks, just not Chicago’s.
- DarthKane


How about a Garland, Myers, and we flip 1st round picks? TB 1st round pick for the 11th.
paulr
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: YYZ
Joined: 06.26.2011

May 11 @ 7:18 AM ET
I’d support KD acquiring Garland, as long as the price isn’t too high. I wouldn’t part with #19/#20. Maybe one of the 2nd round picks, just not Chicago’s.
- DarthKane

Because of Garland’s cap hit there’s speculation Vancouver will need to basically give him away because the NHL knows the Canucks have a cap situation next season. Unless he comes cheap there’s no need for Chicago to overpay
paulr
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: YYZ
Joined: 06.26.2011

May 11 @ 7:22 AM ET
I know. Versteeg wasn't our draft pick. These are the types of players I would like to see on the team. Along with a Shaw.
- bjphawkfan

The Hawks may have a Shaw type player in Sam Savoie similar size, a point a game player and a nuisance against opposing teams.
HawkintheD
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Sick Bay, MI
Joined: 02.22.2012

May 11 @ 8:28 AM ET
The Hawks may have a Shaw type player in Sam Savoie similar size, a point a game player and a nuisance against opposing teams.
- paulr


Possibly. I'm hoping they find a Bolland type somewhere in this draft.
DarthKane
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 5.13.4.9
Joined: 02.23.2012

May 11 @ 8:53 AM ET
Corey Pronman of the Athletic published his full first round 2023 mock draft today.

He has the Hawks taking Bedard with their first pick. This might be a bit of a stretch, but I could see KD taking a chance on #98.

With their second pick he has the Hawks selecting Brayden Yager. He may not be my first choice at this spot, but I’d be happy with Yager. Mind you, he has the Hawks picking #20, at #19 Pronman has the Jets taking Oliver Moore. Would the Hawks take Moore over Yager? Right now, I’d take Halttunen or Danielson with the Hawks second 1st round pick.

Pronman has the rest of the top five as; Fantilli, Smith, Carlsson, and Reinbacher. Michkov falls to Washington at #8. I could see this happening, I wouldn’t say it’s guaranteed but it’s possible.

kmw4631
Location: CHICAGO
Joined: 02.27.2015

May 11 @ 9:19 AM ET
How about a Garland, Myers, and we flip 1st round picks? TB 1st round pick for the 11th.
- BetweenTheDots


from what im reading I think if we took garland and sawp picks that would be about it. teams do not want term for guys that are being over paid. 3years is alot at nearly 5 mil for a small 3rd line player. I would sawp picks and take garland. LA could be a fit with peterson coming back to CHi. I know it general alot of this happens startign the day before the draft thru UFA starting. But im bored if they could start making one trade a week I would apprecaite it.
LAHawk
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 11.02.2017

May 11 @ 9:24 AM ET
Because of Garland’s cap hit there’s speculation Vancouver will need to basically give him away because the NHL knows the Canucks have a cap situation next season. Unless he comes cheap there’s no need for Chicago to overpay
- paulr


I would not take Garland, unless a #1 draft pick is attached. Not with 3 years left, and the fact the cash outlay is more than the cap hit. With that contract, the only way he would be flippable at the TDL is if the Hawks retain, and they already retain on Mc Cabe for 2 more years.
boilermaker100
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 06.23.2015

May 11 @ 9:29 AM ET
Can a player on their ELC get endorsement deals?
- 35Tony0


Don't see why not. He's a professional athlete and can get paid for endorsement deals.

I can see the Chicagoland Chevrolet Dealers Association approaching him to replace Kane and Toews in their ads.
scottak
Location: I am serious. And don't call me Shirley!
Joined: 08.06.2010

May 11 @ 9:42 AM ET
Sharp and Ladd were not drafted by the Hawks.
- LAHawk

FWIW, Ladd is a FA this summer.

Maybe not a popular opinion, but I'd love to see KD bring back Toews on a 3 year deal. I can't think of anyone better to mentor #98. Having a future 1st ballot HOFer in the room is a positive for a young, developing team.
paulr
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: YYZ
Joined: 06.26.2011

May 11 @ 10:16 AM ET
I would not take Garland, unless a #1 draft pick is attached. Not with 3 years left, and the fact the cash outlay is more than the cap hit. With that contract, the only way he would be flippable at the TDL is if the Hawks retain, and they already retain on Mc Cabe for 2 more years.
- LAHawk

The thought is that Vancouver may have to do something like that, not sure they could stomach their first but they may have no choice.
DarthKane
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 5.13.4.9
Joined: 02.23.2012

May 11 @ 10:51 AM ET
The thought is that Vancouver may have to do something like that, not sure they could stomach their first but they may have no choice.
- paulr


I doubt Vancouver will have to add assets to move Garland or Boeser, they both have value. That being said, the return will be below expectations but I don’t see them adding picks/prospects. A team like Buffalo would take either or both of these guys and have the assets to do so.
SteveRain
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Connor Murphy Sucks, IL
Joined: 05.07.2010

May 11 @ 10:58 AM ET
Good morning everyone!

I have put down my Austin Matthews flag....so no worries there.......

My largest concern is opening night and the 81 games that follow. By that I mean, I cringe at the thought of the Hawks leaving Bedard on an island with linemates of Reichel and Tyler Johnson. I just don't see how that works and helps this kid grow. i get and hope he sniffs even half the hype/expectations on him and can propel guys but for a 17-18 yr old I think that's a VERY tall task as of now.

i think most of us can agree that on the team that finished game 82 last year.....we have maybe Reichel (so far so good) and Seth Jones as givens to be on this team when the window to win opens in 3-5 years. Maybe Raddysh as well. A guys like Kurashev is still too up/down for me and could be replaced by a cheaper, younger kid they draft this year or next year.

The rest of these guys are really just place holders and hopefully can be sold off at highest value for a prospect and/or pick.

The other thing I have to keep reminding myself is that when Toews/Kane hit the show in 2007-08....this team already had Sharp, Havlat, Keith, Seabrook, a veteran proven goalie in Khabibulin, and the depth pieces were already getting time...hammer, Bolland, Brouwer, Buff, Burish, Barker, etc.

So therein lies the issue.....I am almost in the camp to leave Bedard in Juniors another year, assuming it doesn't royally piss him off LT, and shoot for another top end pick. Have the kid get bigger/stronger or put in the AHL if he has accomplished all he has to at his current level.

I also feel given the above, I don't see the reasoning in taking #19 or #20 +plus picks to move up in the draft unless some can't miss kid tumbles...say the Russian kid. Otherwise, and all the draft gurus can correct me, is the gap between say prospect #6-#20 negligible or is a steep drop off?
SteveRain
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Connor Murphy Sucks, IL
Joined: 05.07.2010

May 11 @ 11:01 AM ET
FWIW, Ladd is a FA this summer.

Maybe not a popular opinion, but I'd love to see KD bring back Toews on a 3 year deal. I can't think of anyone better to mentor #98. Having a future 1st ballot HOFer in the room is a positive for a young, developing team.

- scottak



I brought this up yesterday and while I LOVE JT....if they were going to do it, and IF, the player was onboard with it...>I would bring back Kane.

Kane can 100% relate to Bedard. Young, cocky, all skill, etc.....kane can help him and be there when the kid runs into adjustments the league will make on him and how to adapt, how to avoid getting killed until he grows into his body, etc.

Again....all for moot as I feel both are long gone. JT had his goodbye.....and Kane likely did as well. Just hope the Hawks don't leave Bedard on an island in a room with Tyler Johnson, Murphy and Seth Jones....
boilermaker100
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 06.23.2015

May 11 @ 11:01 AM ET
Lots of secenarios involving cap dumps.

If Dubas is still around with Toronto this summer, will he attempt to trade Matt Murray this summer? Owed 8M cash on the last year of his deal even though the cap hit is 6.25M. Will Dubas and KD attempt another Mrazek type trade? Toronto's Boston 1st rounder (#28) for a late 2nd or 3rd round pick? Hawks move up 25-40 spots in the draft.

LA wants to resign Gavrikov and possibly Korpisalo (or look for a goalie on the market) and need the cap space. Petersen, two more years at 5M plus at least a 2nd or prospect for future considerations?

We spoke earlier about Garland from the Canucks. Relieving VAN of 3 more years at 4.9M should earn the Hawks a sweetener. Similar to taking on T. Johnson from Tampa Bay a couple of years ago when he had 3 years at 5M remaining on his contract. Hawks got a 2nd at the time with Seabrook going the other way.

Mantha from WSH and Bailey from NYI will be on expiring contracts. They may be just as easily be bought on by their respective teams rather than be traded away along with an asset.

Do the Rangers want to move Goodrow Barclay? 4 more years at 3.6M?

Probably a few more out there.
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