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manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

May 18 @ 5:47 PM ET
Craig Button has Matthew Wood in the 11 spot because of Tage Thompson comparison.

Everybody okay to wait 6 years before an 11th overall pick “hits” like Tage Thompson did?
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

May 18 @ 5:48 PM ET
That’s a good plan by you to trade the teams toughest top 6 forward so you have more reasons to complain about how soft the team is.

#canucksfansgetwhattheydeserve right?

- manvanfan

I think CBJ would want Miller and the first of the Canucks if they are giving up the third OA.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

May 18 @ 6:00 PM ET
I think CBJ would want Miller and the first of the Canucks if they are giving up the third OA.
- VANTEL

John Davidson did say they were after a center in the draft. That would be a steep price. Miller and 11th for 3oa.

Miller 21st highest ppg over the past 4 years. Maybe if Cole Sillinger was coming back with the 3 oa.
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

May 18 @ 6:02 PM ET
Craig Button has Matthew Wood in the 11 spot because of Tage Thompson comparison.

Everybody okay to wait 6 years before an 11th overall pick “hits” like Tage Thompson did?

- manvanfan

I'm pretty sure Aquilini will be fine with that.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

May 18 @ 6:03 PM ET
Never mind.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

May 18 @ 6:06 PM ET
John Davidson did say they were after a center in the draft. That would be a steep price. Miller and 11th for 3oa.

Miller 21st highest ppg over the past 4 years. Maybe if Cole Sillinger was coming back with the 3 oa.

- manvanfan


It would be very costly to acquire the 3OA. Price of doing business.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

May 18 @ 6:20 PM ET
It would be very costly to acquire the 3OA. Price of doing business.
- VANTEL

The price for a signed 80 plus point center in the league is pricey, there is only 3 players since 2018 draft to break 80 points so far. Stuzle, turtlechuk, J. Hughes.

Carlsson projects as a very good player but he’s not Bedard level and there is a big risk. Would you trade Miller straight for up Kirby Dach?

2016 3oa pick PLD has broken 60 points just barely 3 times now.

Obviously there are some upsides to 3 year elc. Could be looking 5-7 years before that 3oa shows up though.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

May 18 @ 6:22 PM ET
Abbotsford signs Cooper Walker.

https://www.eliteprospect...ayer/505198/cooper-walker
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

May 18 @ 6:22 PM ET
Reports Gavrikov close to signing extension in LA
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

May 18 @ 6:23 PM ET
The price for a signed 80 plus point center in the league is pricey, there is only 3 players since 2018 draft to break 80 points so far. Stuzle, turtlechuk, J. Hughes.

Carlsson projects as a very good player but he’s not Bedard level and there is a big risk. Would you trade Miller straight for up Kirby Dach?

2016 3oa pick PLD has broken 60 points just barely 3 times now.

Obviously there are some upsides to 3 year elc. Could be looking 5-7 years before that 3oa shows up though.

- manvanfan


This would be the main POI. I don't believe it will happen but if it did, this is what kind of price you would need to pay. I think CBJ would be leery about the last three years of JTMs contract.



A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

May 18 @ 6:23 PM ET
The price for a signed 80 plus point center in the league is pricey, there is only 3 players since 2018 draft to break 80 points so far. Stuzle, turtlechuk, J. Hughes.

Carlsson projects as a very good player but he’s not Bedard level and there is a big risk. Would you trade Miller straight for up Kirby Dach?

2016 3oa pick PLD has broken 60 points just barely 3 times now.

Obviously there are some upsides to 3 year elc. Could be looking 5-7 years before that 3oa shows up though.

- manvanfan

In 5 years Miller will be a 30 pt 8 mil dollar anchor.
LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

May 18 @ 6:23 PM ET
Not to pile on but…..,..😂😂😂

- Shuswap Wap

LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

May 18 @ 6:24 PM ET
Slide Hwy 97 just north of Penticton in Summerland.



- VanHockeyGuy

Yipes. Hopefully no one hurt.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

May 18 @ 6:40 PM ET
This would be the main POI. I don't believe it will happen but if it did, this is what kind of price you would need to pay. I think CBJ would be leery about the last three years of JTMs contract.
- VANTEL

I’d say try not to look at an individual stand point of Millers contract. Point would be to help out the current contracts of Laine, Werenski, Jenner before they expire in 5 years and Jonny hockey near entire contract gone to waste.

To ASL of the last few years of Millers contract. GMs have been handing these types of contracts out for forever and it’s not changing or stopping. Obviously they don’t care. They really don’t care.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

May 18 @ 6:45 PM ET
That’s a good plan by you to trade the teams toughest top 6 forward so you have more reasons to complain about how soft the team is.

#canucksfansgetwhattheydeserve right?

- manvanfan

Yup I don’t get it this trade JTM stuff. This contract fixation fanbase doesn’t apply to all players.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

May 18 @ 6:51 PM ET
Yup I don’t get it this trade JTM stuff. This contract fixation fanbase doesn’t apply to all players.
- Nighthawk

Brought the coach in for him.

I could see a larger deal say

Miller, 11th, Hoglander

For

3oa, Roslovic, Boqvist.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

May 18 @ 6:54 PM ET
Brought the coach in for him.

I could see a larger deal say

Miller, 11th, Hoglander

For

3oa, Roslovic, Boqvist.

- manvanfan


If you could do that trade I would.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

May 18 @ 7:00 PM ET
Brought the coach in for him.

I could see a larger deal say

Miller, 11th, Hoglander

For

3oa, Roslovic, Boqvist.

- manvanfan

I’ve a different valuation on JTM ignoring the flat cap which will change drastically in upcoming years if not immediately. Just cuz other contracts are poor to bad value I don’t go to next contract up. His personality bugs most fans but not mine. I don’t want choir boys I want old school player types who hate losing & play with an edge. The D lacks that & the F’s not enough of it. Miller will age well imo but I agree in the latter years the points will fall off but he’ll still contribute in many ways.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

May 18 @ 7:01 PM ET
Craig Button has Matthew Wood in the 11 spot because of Tage Thompson comparison.

Everybody okay to wait 6 years before an 11th overall pick “hits” like Tage Thompson did?

- manvanfan

Woods I like but a lil later & he has to work on skating yesterday. He will surprise lots of people. Better he could become a C but that’s a wish.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

May 18 @ 7:02 PM ET
Reports Gavrikov close to signing extension in LA
- manvanfan

Next up for me then is Soucy.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

May 18 @ 7:05 PM ET
I’ve a different valuation on JTM ignoring the flat cap which will change drastically in upcoming years if not immediately. Just cuz other contracts are poor to bad value I don’t to next contract up. His personality bugs most fans but not mine. I don’t want choir boys I want old school player types who hate losing & play with an edge. The D lacks that & the F’s not enough of it. Miller will age well imo but I agree in the latter years the points will fall off but he’ll still contribute in many ways.
- Nighthawk

Canucks don’t have a prospect or another player in he top 6 like him.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

May 18 @ 7:05 PM ET
Brought the coach in for him.

I could see a larger deal say

Miller, 11th, Hoglander

For

3oa, Roslovic, Boqvist.

- manvanfan

Not big on Roslovic but it’s a start to work out a better deal.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

May 18 @ 7:06 PM ET
Canucks don’t have a prospect or another player in he top 6 like him.
- manvanfan

Exactly & dumb fans don’t get that.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

May 18 @ 7:12 PM ET
Woods I like but a lil later & he has to work on skating yesterday. He will surprise lots of people. Better he could become a C but that’s a wish.
- Nighthawk

Wood doesn’t make me think Tage Thompson but more Oliver Wahlstrom.

Wahlstrom was actually drafted 11th in 2018. In a re-draft I’d say he would still be more a 15-20 pick.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

May 18 @ 7:13 PM ET
Not big on Roslovic but it’s a start to work out a better deal.
- Nighthawk

Neither am I but he expires next season and is a center. Kind of like getting Beauvillier.
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