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ses111
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.07.2008

Apr 29 @ 12:27 PM ET
I can care less if they fire Lane and his assistants or not. I don’t think I’ve ever been more indifferent to a coach since I started watching this team. With that said I don’t think any coach is going to do anything spectacular with this roster. That’s probably why I’m indifferent to Lambert.
- Cptmjl



If only it were as easy as firing the coach.
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Apr 29 @ 12:29 PM ET
Sophomore slump. He’s gonna be legit, they just gave him too much responsibility. I still don’t get why Pulock wasn’t out there on the PP to keep it simple and get pucks on net.
- kindlyrick

I agree about Pulock. Mentioned it multiple times. He was 100% our best puck mover the entire series.
ses111
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.07.2008

Apr 29 @ 12:31 PM ET
I agree about Pulock. Mentioned it multiple times. He was 100% our best puck mover the entire series.
- Cptmjl


Shocking how Pulock finally found his game this series.
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Apr 29 @ 12:31 PM ET
They need to address the PP. Period. Be it by trade, signing, however. Get some proven PP guys and I would find whatever coach specializes in this aspect of the game. Can’t get any worse
- kindlyrick

Like I said already I don’t really see how this happens.
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Apr 29 @ 12:32 PM ET
Shocking how Pulock finally found his game this series.
- ses111

Yeah he had a god awful regular season imo but he was money this series.
kindlyrick
New York Islanders
Location: Dallas, TX
Joined: 06.21.2007

Apr 29 @ 12:34 PM ET
I agree about Pulock. Mentioned it multiple times. He was 100% our best puck mover the entire series.
- Cptmjl


Again, coaches unwillingness to change things. Wonder if that came from up top? One could make an argument as they kept going with the highest paid players….even when it continued to get stifled.
ses111
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.07.2008

Apr 29 @ 12:46 PM ET
Again, coaches unwillingness to change things. Wonder if that came from up top? One could make an argument as they kept going with the highest paid players….even when it continued to get stifled.
- kindlyrick



Islanders are all pretty much high paid players. They do not exactly have younger cheaper players to use.
kindlyrick
New York Islanders
Location: Dallas, TX
Joined: 06.21.2007

Apr 29 @ 12:50 PM ET
Islanders are all pretty much high paid players. They do not exactly have younger cheaper players to use.
- ses111


There’s a big gap between Lee, Horvat and Barzal and the rest of the forwards.
ses111
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.07.2008

Apr 29 @ 12:58 PM ET
There’s a big gap between Lee, Horvat and Barzal and the rest of the forwards.
- kindlyrick


Big difference in talent as well even when these 3 struggle.
chazpet
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.22.2010

Apr 29 @ 1:12 PM ET
Time to break up the "core". 2 of the following should be traded.
Lee. Nelson. Pelech. Puloch. Casey. JG.
All would bring back something different. Young speedy wingers would be optimal return.
Don't know wh the GM is going to be but whoever it is has to do something .
Also Bailey gone . Best way possible.
chazpet
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.22.2010

Apr 29 @ 1:15 PM ET
Also anybody else on the roster not named Sorokin , Barzal or Horvat. Although id trade horvat also. don't see much value in anyone else except maybe Dobson.
potvin05
New York Islanders
Location: Snow's World (I just live in it), NY
Joined: 06.21.2008

Apr 29 @ 1:15 PM ET
Lee and Horvat looked really slow this series with no jump at all. Nelson and Pageau were very disappointing as well.
- ses111

Like…I want to think Lee is hurt or something. We know he’s not a skater, he never was. Yeah, he’s a streaky scorer and he has his down stretches, but the last 10 or so regular season games plus the series were…scary. If we’re paying him $7mil/yr and this is the Lee we get moving forward, that’s frightening.

Barzal was not 100% obviously. I really hope he and Horvat can find that initial chemistry they had because, for better or worse, the next few years depend on that. I, also, want to see what Wahlstrom can do. Hell, we don’t even know exactly what happened to him. But, he’s still young and he could be exactly what this power play needs.
Nfdbulldawg
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 06.29.2007

Apr 29 @ 1:16 PM ET
Keep, Move, or Bubble

Brock Nelson - Keep - most consistent foward.
Mathew Barzal - Keep
Anders Lee - Keep - Not a top line guy. 2nd line.
Noah Dobson - Bubble looked completely lost in playoffs.
Jean-Gabriel Pageau - Keep no he did not have a good playoffs.
Zach Parise - Keep He has not slowed down. I would give him another yr.
Kyle Palmieri - Bubble good playoffs. Injuries slowed him down last 2yrs.
Ryan Pulock - Keep
Josh Bailey - Move
Scott Mayfield - Move Will cost too much to sign.
Sebastian Aho - Bubble Not top six
Alexander Romanov - Keep rounds out top 4
Casey Cizikas - Keep
Adam Pelech - Keep
Hudson Fasching - Keep need to find a way to keep him.
Matt Martin - Bubble
Oliver Wahlstrom - Bubble Injuries are having an impact.
Bo Horvat - Keep Needs to be better. Game tailed off greatly Playoff no show.
Cal Clutterbuck - Bubble Age and Injury history.
Simon Holstrom - Bubble Has shown he can play.
Pierre Engvall - Bubble may cost too much to keep. Prefer to keep.
Samuel Bolduc - Bubble needs more work in minors.
Ross Johnston - Move unless your moving martin. too much money to sit.
Parker Wotherspoon - Bubble do not know enough
Ilya Sorokin - Keep He should spend next 10 years here.
Semyon Varlamov - Move to expensive to keep. move at draft to picks.
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Apr 29 @ 1:18 PM ET
Time to break up the "core". 2 of the following should be traded.
Lee. Nelson. Pelech. Puloch. Casey. JG.
All would bring back something different. Young speedy wingers would be optimal return.
Don't know wh the GM is going to be but whoever it is has to do something .
Also Bailey gone . Best way possible.

- chazpet

Most of the players you mentioned nobody is taking. We would have to add a pick for a team to take them off our hands due to their salary. Either that or they are the better players we have like Nelson and it would make little sense to get rid of them. The opportunity to do a mini rebuild was this past deadline. We traded for and signed Horvat instead. That opportunity has passed.
potvin05
New York Islanders
Location: Snow's World (I just live in it), NY
Joined: 06.21.2008

Apr 29 @ 1:19 PM ET
Time to break up the "core". 2 of the following should be traded.
Lee. Nelson. Pelech. Puloch. Casey. JG.
All would bring back something different. Young speedy wingers would be optimal return.
Don't know wh the GM is going to be but whoever it is has to do something .
Also Bailey gone . Best way possible.

- chazpet

I know Pelech (frank)ed up last night but I don’t trade him. I don’t trade Nelson either. Even though I’ve yelled at him a lot, I’m not trading Dobson either. He’s still young, he’ll get stronger and smarter. Pulock had a good series and you have to try to extent Sorokin.

Saying that…no one else on this team is getting you more than a bag of pucks. We’re going into this season with a lot of the same players no matter what and the only time most of these guys will be worth something is at the trade deadline.
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Apr 29 @ 1:26 PM ET
I know Pelech (frank)ed up last night but I don’t trade him. I don’t trade Nelson either. Even though I’ve yelled at him a lot, I’m not trading Dobson either. He’s still young, he’ll get stronger and smarter. Pulock had a good series and you have to try to extent Sorokin.

Saying that…no one else on this team is getting you more than a bag of pucks. We’re going into this season with a lot of the same players no matter what and the only time most of these guys will be worth something is at the trade deadline.

- potvin05

Yep, pretty much. The trade deadline to move out what we could’ve just passed. That was the time to do it with this draft imo. We wouldn’t have gotten a ton for what we had to trade but we could’ve kept our first and had some assets to move at the very least. We didn’t which was a huge misstep that may really hurt us for the foreseeable future. I honestly feel bad for Sorokin.
kindlyrick
New York Islanders
Location: Dallas, TX
Joined: 06.21.2007

Apr 29 @ 1:33 PM ET
Big difference in talent as well even when these 3 struggle.
- ses111


I don’t know, the lonely goal was from PP2. Gotta change it up if it’s not working
Nfdbulldawg
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 06.29.2007

Apr 29 @ 1:42 PM ET
Yep, pretty much. The trade deadline to move out what we could’ve just passed. That was the time to do it with this draft imo. We wouldn’t have gotten a ton for what we had to trade but we could’ve kept our first and had some assets to move at the very least. We didn’t which was a huge misstep that may really hurt us for the foreseeable future. I honestly feel bad for Sorokin.
- Cptmjl


See what deals you can work out with Buffalo, Arizona and the Ducks.
Nfdbulldawg
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 06.29.2007

Apr 29 @ 1:45 PM ET
Like…I want to think Lee is hurt or something. We know he’s not a skater, he never was. Yeah, he’s a streaky scorer and he has his down stretches, but the last 10 or so regular season games plus the series were…scary. If we’re paying him $7mil/yr and this is the Lee we get moving forward, that’s frightening.

Barzal was not 100% obviously. I really hope he and Horvat can find that initial chemistry they had because, for better or worse, the next few years depend on that. I, also, want to see what Wahlstrom can do. Hell, we don’t even know exactly what happened to him. But, he’s still young and he could be exactly what this power play needs.

- potvin05


Be careful you may get a lot of negative feed back on that one. I for one agree...But not many do.
ses111
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.07.2008

Apr 29 @ 1:45 PM ET
Like…I want to think Lee is hurt or something. We know he’s not a skater, he never was. Yeah, he’s a streaky scorer and he has his down stretches, but the last 10 or so regular season games plus the series were…scary. If we’re paying him $7mil/yr and this is the Lee we get moving forward, that’s frightening.

Barzal was not 100% obviously. I really hope he and Horvat can find that initial chemistry they had because, for better or worse, the next few years depend on that. I, also, want to see what Wahlstrom can do. Hell, we don’t even know exactly what happened to him. But, he’s still young and he could be exactly what this power play needs.

- potvin05


Lee is a great person and seems like a fine teammate, but his lack of speed and his not being able to make plays is a concern in today’s NHL.

Barzal has things he needs to cleanup about his game. I still like Barzal as a player.

I’m more concerned with Bo. Bo seems limited as a player and seems to need others to make things happen.
ses111
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.07.2008

Apr 29 @ 1:48 PM ET


Be careful you may get a lot of negative feed back on that one. I for one agree...But not many do.

- Nfdbulldawg


Lee has his fans for sure, but nothing Potvin stated is untrue. We need to tell the truth about this team and their flaws. Same for Lou regardless of him being a Hall of Famer.
nyisles7
New York Islanders
Location: Magical Lou, NY
Joined: 01.20.2009

Apr 29 @ 1:49 PM ET
Tough loss last night.
Bottom line the only Islanders to pick up the level of their game in the POs were Pulock and to a lesser extent Palms with honorable mention to Engvail. No one else elevated their game including sOrOkin. Not blaming the loss on him just stating that he wasn’t the beast we all hoped for or expected in the POs in my opinion.
Whether it’s Lou or L and M want to change things up from the top and get a new Press/GM. There will be changes made. Whether it’s a total strip down and rebuild needs to be seen, but there will and needs to be changes. It’s going to be an interesting and important off season.
As far as coaching I think Brind’Amour was the more effective coach with his matchups and goaltending decisions he made. Starting Raanta and then going to Anderson were both bold moves that paid off.
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Apr 29 @ 1:50 PM ET
See what deals you can work out with Buffalo, Arizona and the Ducks.
- Nfdbulldawg

I can’t see any of these teams, especially Buffalo, taking on anyone we would want to give up. We would have to give up assets we don’t have for the Ducks and or Arizona to take on a player like Lee for example. Everyone else sees exactly what we do and knows exactly why we would want to get rid of some of these guys. Couple that with their salary and term(for some players) they are pretty much unmovable. I can’t see it.
Pelech and Pulock a team like Buffalo could want but are we really giving up either of them. They didn’t have the best season but trading them would pretty much render our team useless.
potvin05
New York Islanders
Location: Snow's World (I just live in it), NY
Joined: 06.21.2008

Apr 29 @ 1:51 PM ET
Lee is a great person and seems like a fine teammate, but his lack of speed and his not being able to make plays is a concern in today’s NHL.

Barzal has things he needs to cleanup about his game. I still like Barzal as a player.

I’m more concerned with Bo. Bo seems limited as a player and seems to need others to make things happen.

- ses111

Like i said this morning, he needs a quick start or it’s gonna be ugly. You are what your stats say, so I’m gonna assume, today, he gets his 30/30/60pts but a lot of you already hit the nail on the head…we haven’t seen that guy bar the first week or so. You’re making $8mil/yr…60 points is the least you could do.

With Lee, on top of what I mentioned earlier, he wasn’t winning battles on the boards, he could barely complete a pass, some of his shots were woefully inaccurate…just a poopshow of a month for him.
Upstate_isles
New York Islanders
Location: Bitch Lasagna , NY
Joined: 05.12.2016

Apr 29 @ 2:27 PM ET
Tough loss last night.
Bottom line the only Islanders to pick up the level of their game in the POs were Pulock and to a lesser extent Palms with honorable mention to Engvail. No one else elevated their game including sOrOkin. Not blaming the loss on him just stating that he wasn’t the beast we all hoped for or expected in the POs in my opinion.
Whether it’s Lou or L and M want to change things up from the top and get a new Press/GM. There will be changes made. Whether it’s a total strip down and rebuild needs to be seen, but there will and needs to be changes. It’s going to be an interesting and important off season.
As far as coaching I think Brind’Amour was the more effective coach with his matchups and goaltending decisions he made. Starting Raanta and then going to Anderson were both bold moves that paid off.

- nyisles7

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