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LeftCoaster
Location: Valley Of The Sun
Joined: 07.03.2009

Apr 25 @ 7:02 PM ET
People just need to look at the 50+ year draft position VAN has had.

Give your heads a shake!

- VanHockeyGuy

This is kinda random, but, I just looked at a few teams and their top three drafting history. How many times they’ve had a top three pick and how many of those were first overall. Since 1970 the Canucks have actually had the most top three picks out of the eight teams I looked at, no first overall picks though, which means they’re missing out on that franchise type of player so many of these other teams have had.

Vancouver - 8 top three picks, none first overall.
Chicago - 6 top three picks, one first overall.
Pittsburg - 7 top three picks, three first overall.
Philadelphia - 3 top three picks, one first overall.
Tampa - 7 top three picks since 1992, three first overall.
Edmonton - 5 top three picks since 1979, four first overall.
Buffalo - 6 top three picks, three first overall.
Colorado - 7 top three picks since 1979, four first overall.
Load Management
Season Ticket Holder
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Billings Spit, BC
Joined: 09.22.2019

Apr 25 @ 7:18 PM ET
Maybe in a Bowser form

I've seen lots of public analysts comments that he is a good skater but I've never seen a scout comment to say that.

I'd say his edges are poor, his acceleration is poor, and his straight line speed is okay if he is unimpeded from a skating start behind his own net all the way to the other teams blue line.

- manvanfan


His edgework is smooth. It's the quick chop steps when he is pushed laterally and crossovers that seemed to need work when I saw him.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Apr 25 @ 8:01 PM ET
My trade down was poor I agree. Just trying to gauge for a return. Not suggesting moving 2oa just what value it has.
VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Apr 25 @ 8:37 PM ET
Don was right, CAR is soft AF this series. I thought VAN was soft???
VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Apr 25 @ 9:12 PM ET
Tankathon x 10...

11, 11, 11, 11, 11, 11, 11, 11, 11, 11.

Marwood
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Apr 25 @ 9:18 PM ET
Tankathon x 10...

11, 11, 11, 11, 11, 11, 11, 11, 11, 11.

- VanHockeyGuy

So Spinal Tap.
VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Apr 25 @ 9:22 PM ET
So Spinal Tap.
- Marwood


I tried it last week and got 12 twice, 2nd once, the rest all 11.
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Apr 25 @ 9:28 PM ET
Seems obvious, it's surprising to me anyone thinks otherwise.
- NorthNuck


Exactly. The kid will probably score 80 points next year for $900k. Macdavid might score 140 for $11MM or whatever he makes. Not to mention he is under control for 7 years. There is no package a team can offer to get Bedard.
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Apr 25 @ 9:30 PM ET
Don was right, CAR is soft AF this series. I thought VAN was soft???
- VanHockeyGuy

And I thought Corsi could win scrums and board battles 🫠
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Apr 25 @ 10:31 PM ET
Jack Han

Incredible info from Derek Lalonde (fmr TBL asst coach) on Vasilevskiy's weakness:

"We did a study...he was one of the lower-percentage goalies in finding pucks from the point...we changed our entire Dzone (coverage)."

Tampa Bay using analytics to win multiple Stanley cups.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Apr 25 @ 10:34 PM ET
And I thought Corsi could win scrums and board battles 🫠
- CanuckDon

Testing out a new drug tonight are you?
Shuswap Wap
Location: BC
Joined: 02.07.2018

Apr 26 @ 12:46 AM ET
Tankathon x 10...

11, 11, 11, 11, 11, 11, 11, 11, 11, 11.

- VanHockeyGuy

Canucks finally won it on my 13th try!
Edit: I reset it again and got 1st on my first try🧨
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Apr 26 @ 1:49 AM ET
Tankathon x 10...

11, 11, 11, 11, 11, 11, 11, 11, 11, 11.

- VanHockeyGuy


10x
11 11 12 11 12 12 11 12 12 11
I-own_da-Northwest
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cariboo, BC
Joined: 08.08.2009

Apr 26 @ 7:33 AM ET
Canucks finally won it on my 13th try!
Edit: I reset it again and got 1st on my first try🧨

- Shuswap Wap


Even if Canucks somehow won it, they’d skip Bedard and draft Leo.
NewYorkNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 07.11.2015

Apr 26 @ 7:57 AM ET
Even if Canucks somehow won it, they’d skip Bedard and draft Leo.
- I-own_da-Northwest


If the Canucks win 1OA and get Bedard, I think you'll see them push alllllll the chips in: OEL buyout, trade Myers, trade Garland, sign some UFAs...
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Apr 26 @ 8:32 AM ET
Columbus be looking for a top 6 center this summer.

Lots of prospects (including centers), extra picks(1st rounders 23oa which is likely to remain there), extra defensemen as well.

Canucks could get Lane Pederson back as part of that trade too.

Interesting development
They’re also likely to add Dmitry Voronkov for next season although he won’t be ready to play in the top six right away either.

6'4" RUSSIAN!
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Apr 26 @ 8:55 AM ET
Thinking of possibilities of re-shaping the defence but remember OEL still signed and going to come back "better, faster" next season

Chicago might be a team they could trade with. 40M in cap space for next season.

Connor Murphy 6'4" 210 lb right shot D. 4.4 signed for 3 more seasons. M-ntc 10 team Van might not be on the list.

Trade for Myers, straight up Van saves 1.4M in cap, Myers used for extra cap for them and trade asset at the TDL. Quite possibly if they would take on Garland for 1 of there 4 seconds this year as well, to get to the cap floor obviously.

So Murphy and 2nd for Myers and Garland. Okay it's like a dream scenario for Van fans but still. Well not really, I mean they could get more individually.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Apr 26 @ 9:10 AM ET
Chris Peters
@chrismpeters
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43m
Per Sportbladet, cost to insure Elias Pettersson for the Men’s World Championship prohibitive for Swedish federation. He won’t be able to join the team for the tournament as a result.

Probably a good thing so he doesn't get hurt.
Jkuzzi
Joined: 12.14.2016

Apr 26 @ 10:19 AM ET
Didn't that genius benning gives Myers a partial NTC
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Apr 26 @ 10:28 AM ET
Didn't that genius benning gives Myers a partial NTC
- Jkuzzi

10 team No trade list. Let's hope Chicago isn't on it.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Apr 26 @ 10:38 AM ET
Eastern Conference Scout on Dalibor Dvorsky

"He's a work horse. Drives play up and down the ice. Defends well. Won't be a big point guy, but has an energy line future."


He doesn't have the best comparables from where he has played. Drance had mentioned Jacob De La Rose. I think he has a lot more skilled than he did.

If he is still on the board at 11. He may not be the prettiest player on the board but he's more of what Van need than they don't.
Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Apr 26 @ 11:13 AM ET
Tampa Bay using analytics to win multiple Stanley cups.
- manvanfan



On drugs again, I see.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Apr 26 @ 11:17 AM ET
On drugs again, I see.
- Reubenkincade

I'm on drugs because the asst coach of the TB lighting said they did?

LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Apr 26 @ 11:18 AM ET
Don was right, CAR is soft AF this series. I thought VAN was soft???
- VanHockeyGuy

It's weird as CAR played tougher/heavier Hockey during the reg. season but now they look like a team full of Horvats. Better get their sh!t together.
Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Apr 26 @ 11:35 AM ET
I'm on drugs because the asst coach of the TB lighting said they did?
- manvanfan


No, because you aren't bright enough to realize that analytics have been used for more than 50 years, by many nhl teams, who have won the cup.



But, pretty typical of the new age analytic types, thinking it is something new.
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