It's quite a bit ahead, it's a mens league. Allsvenskan would be ahead of NCAA but behind the AHL in terms of quality.

Here's an NHLe project Patrick Bacon did in 2021 on how players project from different leagues around the world.

League ║ NHLe ║
╠══════════════════╬═══════╣
║ NHL ║ 1 ║
║ KHL ║ 0.772 ║
║ Czech ║ 0.583 ║
║ SHL ║ 0.566 ║
║ NLA ║ 0.459 ║
║ Liiga ║ 0.441 ║
║ AHL ║ 0.389 ║
║ DEL ║ 0.352 ║
║ Allsvenskan ║ 0.351


NCAA ║ 0.194
OHL ║ 0.144
USHL ║ 0.143
WHL ║ 0.141
USDP ║ 0.121 ║
║ QMJHL ║ 0.113
- manvanfan

WHL should be higher, great players develop there!!

WHL should be higher, great players develop there!!
- LeftCoaster

Wellity well....Couldn't help but notice the USHL is slightly ahead of the W.

It's quite a bit ahead, it's a mens league. Allsvenskan would be ahead of NCAA but behind the AHL in terms of quality.

Here's an NHLe project Patrick Bacon did in 2021 on how players project from different leagues around the world.

League ║ NHLe ║
╠══════════════════╬═══════╣
║ NHL ║ 1 ║
║ KHL ║ 0.772 ║
║ Czech ║ 0.583 ║
║ SHL ║ 0.566 ║
║ NLA ║ 0.459 ║
║ Liiga ║ 0.441 ║
║ AHL ║ 0.389 ║
║ DEL ║ 0.352 ║
║ Allsvenskan ║ 0.351


NCAA ║ 0.194
OHL ║ 0.144
USHL ║ 0.143
WHL ║ 0.141
USDP ║ 0.121 ║
║ QMJHL ║ 0.113
- manvanfan

Wow I wouldn't have expected the AHL to be so low on the list, and the Czech League being above the SHL is weird, I wonder if that's just due to small sample size.

Wow I wouldn't have expected the AHL to be so low on the list, and the Czech League being above the SHL is weird, I wonder if that's just due to small sample size.
- NorthNuck

I don't think the gap is as big as those numbers made it out to be but Allsvenskan is a men's league, many more older players than NCAA and better than teenagers of the CHL leagues.
Seems as if the good NCAA players that have trouble in the AHL are better players in the Allsvenskan.

This is another one I just found today written 2020 by someone who I never read his stuff before. His is a bit different than Patrick Bacon. NCAA is split into divisions in his.
khl 0.617
shl 0.489
ahl 0.412
czech 0.397
nla 0.375
liiga 0.362
del 0.286
vhl 0.269
big-ten 0.231
allsvenskan 0.218
slovakia 0.208
h-east 0.204
whl 0.162
qmjhl 0.159
ohl 0.155
echl 0.154
ushl 0.118

Wow I wouldn't have expected the AHL to be so low on the list, and the Czech League being above the SHL is weird, I wonder if that's just due to small sample size.
- NorthNuck

It’s absolute horse sh!t written by the worlds biggest clown. The K is dominated by players that couldn’t hack it in the AHL. The AHL is the second most difficult league in the world and it’s not that close

WHL should be higher, great players develop there!!
- LeftCoaster

It's a very hard thing to specifically determine. A mens' league is better than a kids league. Doesn't mean all kids in men's leagues are better than kids in kids leagues.

NHLe is about scoring. Patrick Bacon's model was to try and add in age, height, weight and other factors.

Byron Bader's model is mostly scoring. He does have I believe over 20 teams subscribed to his work now a days though. Here is the NHLe for some of the top prospects this year.
https://twitter.com/NHLRa...50821960576774144/photo/1


I've always thought NHLe has been outrageous in the numbers. I mean 151 and 155 points in the NHL up until this year has been pretty ludicrous.

NHLe is just another tool to use when looking at prospects, not the be all end all.

NFL draft day!

I remember when I used to enjoy the NHL draft.

NFL draft day!

I remember when I used to enjoy the NHL draft.
- VanHockeyGuy

I remember when Denver didn't throw picks away like Jim (frank)en Benning and got to actually add talent instead of washed up bums.

I remember when Denver didn't throw picks away like Jim (frank)en Benning and got to actually add talent instead of washed up bums.
- manvanfan

Big day for the Seahawks because of that! Hearing they take Carter at #5. Should be an interesting night!

It's a very hard thing to specifically determine. A mens' league is better than a kids league. Doesn't mean all kids in men's leagues are better than kids in kids leagues.

NHLe is about scoring. Patrick Bacon's model was to try and add in age, height, weight and other factors.

Byron Bader's model is mostly scoring. He does have I believe over 20 teams subscribed to his work now a days though. Here is the NHLe for some of the top prospects this year.
https://twitter.com/NHLRa...50821960576774144/photo/1


I've always thought NHLe has been outrageous in the numbers. I mean 151 and 155 points in the NHL up until this year has been pretty ludicrous.

NHLe is just another tool to use when looking at prospects, not the be all end all.
- manvanfan

Why does he show us drafting 18th for NYI instead of Detroit?

EDIT: Apprently there is a rumor MTL may take Reinbacher at 5OA

Why does he show us drafting 18th for NYI instead of Detroit?
- Retinalz

I couldn't tell you.

To your edit: I haven't heard that. It wouldn't surprise me. As was mentioned this morning during the Slovak game. MTL GM was in attendance and most likely to watch Dvorsky. He also coached Will Smith in junior leagues supposedly.

After watching some u18s and playoffs, I feel as if the top 10-12 might be more consensus than a couple months earlier.

Martin is 27
- NorthNuck

Yeah I know, but he was definitely their best player last night. Hoglander was decent, Klimovich was invisible, Woo is a bust, you guys should hope he never plays for the Canucks. Couple of the other Canuck callups had moments, neither team looked in control of the game. Pretty amateur broadcasting, the Wrangler colour guy seemed to nod off for long periods leaving the play by play lady scrambling.

Big day for the Seahawks because of that! Hearing they take Carter at #5. Should be an interesting night!
- VanHockeyGuy

Washington Capitals

@Capitals
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NEWS | The Washington Capitals have signed defenseman Hardy Häman Aktell to a one-year, two-way entry-level contract ($775,000/$82,500).

Washington Capitals

@Capitals
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NEWS | The Washington Capitals have signed defenseman Hardy Häman Aktell to a one-year, two-way entry-level contract ($775,000/$82,500).
- manvanfan

Devastating

Daniel Gee
@DanielGScouting
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Apr 26
#Canucks Lekkerimäki scores in the third period. He now has 14 points (5 goals - 9 assists) in 13* games.

Side note: I am writing a piece on his playoffs and #Canucks fans will be pleased with what they see. Looks like a different player in terms of execution and engagement

Daniel Gee
@DanielGScouting
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Apr 26
#Canucks Lekkerimäki scores in the third period. He now has 14 points (5 goals - 9 assists) in 13* games.

Side note: I am writing a piece on his playoffs and #Canucks fans will be pleased with what they see. Looks like a different player in terms of execution and engagement
- manvanfan

Not hard to please Canuck fans when most were already calling him a bust. Hoglander 2-0

Not hard to please Canuck fans when most were already calling him a bust. Hoglander 2-0
- K-man25

Hoglander kind of reminds me of Baertschi, I think he stands a better chance of sticking around than Sven did though

Hoglander kind of reminds me of Baertschi, I think he stands a better chance of sticking around than Sven did though
- NorthNuck

Sven would have been a decent 50pt player if his brain didn't turn to mush.

Sven would have been a decent 50pt player if his brain didn't turn to mush.
- Retinalz

Same with Markstrom

Sven would have been a decent 50pt player if his brain didn't turn to mush.
- Retinalz

True. I really wanted to see him succeed but it just wasn't meant to be

Hoglander kind of reminds me of Baertschi, I think he stands a better chance of sticking around than Sven did though
- NorthNuck

Burke hurt poor Sven’s feelings. Said he wouldn’t sign in Calgary and forced his way out of town. I’ll take Rasmus Anderson any day of the week, thanks Jim Benning!

Same with Markstrom
- VANTEL

Keep lobbing them out there, eventually someone will take a swing.

True. I really wanted to see him succeed but it just wasn't meant to be
- NorthNuck

Another entitled pos. What’s wrong with these guys?
Guy has a great junior career with the Winterhawks, gets called up on an emergency recall. Scores 5 goals, then figures this is easy and stops working.

The Rangers are a fun team to watch, but no one can deny a huge part of them being where they are is having a future norris winning Dman demand to be traded to them for basically nothing.
- NorthNuck

Yeah, I don’t like when players collude like that. They always want to play in NY. Even naslund did it.