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CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Apr 14 @ 1:11 AM ET
it’s one game against Arizona. That guy is so useless 80% of the games, he should give 80% of his salary back. Although he was better under Tocchet, like most players.
- LeftCoaster

He is better than Brock. Low bar of course
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Apr 14 @ 1:12 AM ET
You're a good poster, happy birthday!!
- Marwood

Thx man! Cocktails on me at the picnic
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Apr 14 @ 1:14 AM ET
Happy BDay
- VANTEL

Cheers buddy: you are all good posters. Good night, I’m going to do some bath salts and slip into a comma thinking about tonight’s epic moral victory
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Apr 14 @ 1:26 AM ET
Cheers buddy: you are all good posters. Good night, I’m going to do some bath salts and slip into a comma thinking about tonight’s epic moral victory
- CanuckDon

NewYorkNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 07.11.2015

Apr 14 @ 1:59 AM ET
God I hate this franchise.



Suck at being good, suck at being bad.
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Apr 14 @ 2:02 AM ET
All the Canucks superstars out to cause that goal against. Great coaching
- Reubenkincade

Do you think a 2 day training camp can fix that?
NewYorkNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 07.11.2015

Apr 14 @ 2:05 AM ET
From Harm/Athletic:

Early timing of Rick Tocchet’s hiring and extreme deployment cost the Canucks a higher draft pick

Depending on how the final games play out, the Canucks could draft as low as No. 11 in June. A big chunk of that has to do with the softening schedule and Demko’s return. Part of it also relates to the early timing of Rick Tocchet’s hiring with 36 games left to go — as well as the typical new coach bump — and the extreme deployment for top players down the stretch.

As soon as you make a coaching change, it jolts the team because players are suddenly very motivated to make a good impression on the new boss. Every player gets a fresh start and is fighting hard for new special team opportunities, roles up the lineup and extra minutes, all of which impact how much they get paid on their next contract. It raises the internal competition, the incoming coach’s message is fresh and they can make notable changes to the team’s play style that pay dividends. It’s usually a recipe for the type of improvement the Canucks have seen down the stretch.

Vancouver needed to relieve Boudreau when they did, but it was fascinating that they opted to immediately hire Tocchet rather than say promote Mike Yeo as an interim.

With an interim coach, you often don’t get the same bump because players know this isn’t the long-term boss and you don’t see radical changes in strategy or deployment either. The Canucks could have brought Tocchet in with let’s say 5-10 games to go — enough for him to instill new philosophies and set expectations for training camp, but not too long to where it could hurt their draft pick. Heck, they could have waited until the end of the season.

The last time a draft class was as star-studded as this one was in 2015. The Leafs fired Randy Carlyle in early January of that year and promoted assistant Peter Horachek as an interim head coach rather than naming a long-term replacement. The Leafs had the second-worst record in the NHL from that point on which helped them net the No. 4 selection that they used to draft Mitch Marner.

I don’t think it’s a coincidence that no NHL team besides the Canucks decided to make a midseason coaching change this year. Vancouver presumably wanted to give Tocchet a head start in working with the group, improving their habits and implementing some of his philosophical changes. But was a 36-game runway necessary? It’s not like Boudreau’s extended stint in 2021-22 carried over to this season.

We also saw many head coaching changes this past summer where a new boss came in, made drastic systems changes with just a training camp and preseason to prepare and the team ended up very successful. That includes Jim Montgomery in Boston, Pete DeBoer in Dallas and Bruce Cassidy in Vegas. Those teams had good rosters, fair, but Rick Bowness did the same thing with an average Jets team that missed the playoffs in 2021-22. He had a lot of work to do to fix the club’s defensive form and systems.

On top of that, Vancouver ran Pettersson, Hughes, J.T. Miller and Demko as if their playoff lives depended on it.

Hughes played the most minutes of any NHL player down the stretch in the last 25 games (27:30 per game). Pettersson ranked fourth among all NHL forwards in minutes in that span and Miller was eighth. Demko played 17 of the last 22 games prior to the final game against Arizona. Nobody’s arguing that these guys should have played low minutes, they just shouldn’t have been pushed to the extreme in the pursuit of squeaking out extra wins.

Hopefully the Canucks are successful next season because otherwise, the decisions that harmed this year’s draft positioning will look worse.


So very Canuck. Short term thinking after short term thinking.
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Apr 14 @ 2:08 AM ET
They need to rid themselves of all Bennings garbage.
- Reubenkincade

boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Apr 14 @ 2:46 AM ET
So now all that's left is to wait for these retards to pick our next soft winger with a good wrist shot in the 1st round. Go Canucks.
NewYorkNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 07.11.2015

Apr 14 @ 2:59 AM ET
So now all that's left is to wait for these retards to pick our next soft winger with a good wrist shot in the 1st round. Go Canucks.
- boonerbuck


Hopefully they can package it to dump OEL's contract to overpay on some UFAs
LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Apr 14 @ 8:09 AM ET
Thanks Mike!

LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Apr 14 @ 8:11 AM ET
I'm glad that this train wreck of a season is over. I've never been more disenfranchised with this team. We're watching this last game to hear Cheech's last kick at the can with this eternally disappointing team.
- Marwood

LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Apr 14 @ 8:15 AM ET
Unbelievable season by Karlsson this year.
- LeftCoaster

Ridiculous scoring by a Dman this year. Almost on par or comparable to McDavid over 150 points in this era. Remarkable on both counts.
LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Apr 14 @ 8:20 AM ET
Danielson.
- Load Management

Very possible.
LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Apr 14 @ 8:31 AM ET
He is better than Brock. Low bar of course
- CanuckDon

74 games w/55 points tell us all how you really feel Donny...

https://www.hockeydb.com/...s/pdisplay.php?pid=172649
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Apr 14 @ 8:55 AM ET
I don't think Canucks will have the pick, but Donaldson is a player I mentioned early in the year, of course Minivan cut him down.
Much rather get Reinbacher, as it shows on that site, but I highly doubt he is there.

- Reubenkincade

Your scouting ego has gotten so big, you don't even listen to what anyone else says. I never "cut him down" that's what you do. I just didn't rank him as a top 10 players as you said he should be, I ranked him as a top 15 players.

manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Apr 14 @ 9:10 AM ET
74 games w/55 points tell us all how you really feel Donny...

https://www.hockeydb.com/...s/pdisplay.php?pid=172649

- LordHumungous

At a minus 20 on the season. That's doesn't affect the game defensively in a good way. Unfortunately, that's a 5m winger not a 6.65
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Apr 14 @ 9:50 AM ET
Jeff Paterson

#Canucks finished the season 8-4-2 with one win over a playoff team. They were 13-5-2 over final 20 games with 3 wins over playoff teams. Just remember that in your evaluation of late stages

K-man25
Calgary Flames
Location: K Town
Joined: 09.02.2014

Apr 14 @ 9:54 AM ET

- manvanfan

The Lefty ranking. Brick by brick.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Apr 14 @ 9:54 AM ET
𝗖𝗵𝗿𝗶𝘀 Faber 🔥🎙

The Canucks have a 3% chance of winning the draft lottery.

No eligible team has worse odds to win the first overall pick.

They are totally getting Bedard.
Marwood
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Apr 14 @ 10:08 AM ET
Hopefully they can package it to dump OEL's contract to overpay on some UFAs
- NewYorkNuck

That would be awesome, use a 1st to move a horrendous contract.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Apr 14 @ 10:14 AM ET
The Lefty ranking. Brick by brick.
- K-man25

Creating a winning culture is key
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Apr 14 @ 10:23 AM ET
Cody Severtson

From 2017-2020, Detroit drafted 44 players (9 in the first 2 rounds), they didn't get the difference makers needed to contend and are committing to ANOTHER stockpile of
picks because Seider/Raymond/Berggren isn't enough to declare "mission accomplished"

Stevie going to do better 2nd time around.
NewYorkNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 07.11.2015

Apr 14 @ 10:32 AM ET
Don is going to be the biggest fan of Shane O"Brien now

https://www.reddit.com/r/..._tears_into_bo_horvat_for

(Can't embed a reddit video, but it's him absolutely laying into Bo for his comments and how poop of a captain he was)
LeftCoaster
Location: Valley Of The Sun
Joined: 07.03.2009

Apr 14 @ 10:41 AM ET
Stevie going to do better 2nd time around.
- manvanfan

Yzerman wasn’t hired in Detroit until April 19, 2019, which means he’s only responsible for the 2019 & 2020 kids on your comment. Which includes Seider and Raymond. The rest of those kids are still developing. Very disingenuous of you, not to mention incorrect. Yzerman is the king!!
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