CanuckDon
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Location: Las Vegas Joined: 08.05.2014
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it’s one game against Arizona. That guy is so useless 80% of the games, he should give 80% of his salary back. Although he was better under Tocchet, like most players. - LeftCoaster
He is better than Brock. Low bar of course |
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CanuckDon
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Location: Las Vegas Joined: 08.05.2014
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You're a good poster, happy birthday!! - Marwood
Thx man! Cocktails on me at the picnic |
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CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: Las Vegas Joined: 08.05.2014
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Happy BDay - VANTEL
Cheers buddy: you are all good posters. Good night, I’m going to do some bath salts and slip into a comma thinking about tonight’s epic moral victory |
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Cheers buddy: you are all good posters. Good night, I’m going to do some bath salts and slip into a comma thinking about tonight’s epic moral victory - CanuckDon
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NewYorkNuck
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: New York, NY Joined: 07.11.2015
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God I hate this franchise.
Suck at being good, suck at being bad. |
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All the Canucks superstars out to cause that goal against. Great coaching - Reubenkincade
Do you think a 2 day training camp can fix that? |
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NewYorkNuck
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: New York, NY Joined: 07.11.2015
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From Harm/Athletic:
Early timing of Rick Tocchet’s hiring and extreme deployment cost the Canucks a higher draft pick
Depending on how the final games play out, the Canucks could draft as low as No. 11 in June. A big chunk of that has to do with the softening schedule and Demko’s return. Part of it also relates to the early timing of Rick Tocchet’s hiring with 36 games left to go — as well as the typical new coach bump — and the extreme deployment for top players down the stretch.
As soon as you make a coaching change, it jolts the team because players are suddenly very motivated to make a good impression on the new boss. Every player gets a fresh start and is fighting hard for new special team opportunities, roles up the lineup and extra minutes, all of which impact how much they get paid on their next contract. It raises the internal competition, the incoming coach’s message is fresh and they can make notable changes to the team’s play style that pay dividends. It’s usually a recipe for the type of improvement the Canucks have seen down the stretch.
Vancouver needed to relieve Boudreau when they did, but it was fascinating that they opted to immediately hire Tocchet rather than say promote Mike Yeo as an interim.
With an interim coach, you often don’t get the same bump because players know this isn’t the long-term boss and you don’t see radical changes in strategy or deployment either. The Canucks could have brought Tocchet in with let’s say 5-10 games to go — enough for him to instill new philosophies and set expectations for training camp, but not too long to where it could hurt their draft pick. Heck, they could have waited until the end of the season.
The last time a draft class was as star-studded as this one was in 2015. The Leafs fired Randy Carlyle in early January of that year and promoted assistant Peter Horachek as an interim head coach rather than naming a long-term replacement. The Leafs had the second-worst record in the NHL from that point on which helped them net the No. 4 selection that they used to draft Mitch Marner.
I don’t think it’s a coincidence that no NHL team besides the Canucks decided to make a midseason coaching change this year. Vancouver presumably wanted to give Tocchet a head start in working with the group, improving their habits and implementing some of his philosophical changes. But was a 36-game runway necessary? It’s not like Boudreau’s extended stint in 2021-22 carried over to this season.
We also saw many head coaching changes this past summer where a new boss came in, made drastic systems changes with just a training camp and preseason to prepare and the team ended up very successful. That includes Jim Montgomery in Boston, Pete DeBoer in Dallas and Bruce Cassidy in Vegas. Those teams had good rosters, fair, but Rick Bowness did the same thing with an average Jets team that missed the playoffs in 2021-22. He had a lot of work to do to fix the club’s defensive form and systems.
On top of that, Vancouver ran Pettersson, Hughes, J.T. Miller and Demko as if their playoff lives depended on it.
Hughes played the most minutes of any NHL player down the stretch in the last 25 games (27:30 per game). Pettersson ranked fourth among all NHL forwards in minutes in that span and Miller was eighth. Demko played 17 of the last 22 games prior to the final game against Arizona. Nobody’s arguing that these guys should have played low minutes, they just shouldn’t have been pushed to the extreme in the pursuit of squeaking out extra wins.
Hopefully the Canucks are successful next season because otherwise, the decisions that harmed this year’s draft positioning will look worse.
So very Canuck. Short term thinking after short term thinking. |
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They need to rid themselves of all Bennings garbage. - Reubenkincade
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boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: Not Quesnel, BC Joined: 10.11.2005
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So now all that's left is to wait for these retards to pick our next soft winger with a good wrist shot in the 1st round. Go Canucks. |
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NewYorkNuck
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Location: New York, NY Joined: 07.11.2015
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So now all that's left is to wait for these retards to pick our next soft winger with a good wrist shot in the 1st round. Go Canucks.  - boonerbuck
Hopefully they can package it to dump OEL's contract to overpay on some UFAs |
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LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla! Joined: 08.15.2014
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Thanks Mike!
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LordHumungous
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Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla! Joined: 08.15.2014
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I'm glad that this train wreck of a season is over. I've never been more disenfranchised with this team. We're watching this last game to hear Cheech's last kick at the can with this eternally disappointing team.  - Marwood
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LordHumungous
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Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla! Joined: 08.15.2014
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Unbelievable season by Karlsson this year. - LeftCoaster
Ridiculous scoring by a Dman this year. Almost on par or comparable to McDavid over 150 points in this era. Remarkable on both counts. |
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LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla! Joined: 08.15.2014
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Danielson. - Load Management
Very possible. |
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LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla! Joined: 08.15.2014
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manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: MB Joined: 01.21.2012
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I don't think Canucks will have the pick, but Donaldson is a player I mentioned early in the year, of course Minivan cut him down.
Much rather get Reinbacher, as it shows on that site, but I highly doubt he is there. - Reubenkincade
Your scouting ego has gotten so big, you don't even listen to what anyone else says. I never "cut him down" that's what you do. I just didn't rank him as a top 10 players as you said he should be, I ranked him as a top 15 players.
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manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: MB Joined: 01.21.2012
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manvanfan
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Location: MB Joined: 01.21.2012
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Jeff Paterson
#Canucks finished the season 8-4-2 with one win over a playoff team. They were 13-5-2 over final 20 games with 3 wins over playoff teams. Just remember that in your evaluation of late stages
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K-man25
Calgary Flames |
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Location: K Town Joined: 09.02.2014
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 - manvanfan
The Lefty ranking. Brick by brick. |
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manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: MB Joined: 01.21.2012
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𝗖𝗵𝗿𝗶𝘀 Faber 🔥🎙
The Canucks have a 3% chance of winning the draft lottery.
No eligible team has worse odds to win the first overall pick.
They are totally getting Bedard. |
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Marwood
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Location: Cumberland, BC Joined: 03.18.2010
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Hopefully they can package it to dump OEL's contract to overpay on some UFAs  - NewYorkNuck
That would be awesome, use a 1st to move a horrendous contract. |
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manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: MB Joined: 01.21.2012
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The Lefty ranking. Brick by brick. - K-man25
Creating a winning culture is key |
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manvanfan
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Location: MB Joined: 01.21.2012
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Cody Severtson
From 2017-2020, Detroit drafted 44 players (9 in the first 2 rounds), they didn't get the difference makers needed to contend and are committing to ANOTHER stockpile of
picks because Seider/Raymond/Berggren isn't enough to declare "mission accomplished"
Stevie going to do better 2nd time around. |
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NewYorkNuck
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: New York, NY Joined: 07.11.2015
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LeftCoaster
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Location: Valley Of The Sun Joined: 07.03.2009
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Stevie going to do better 2nd time around. - manvanfan
Yzerman wasn’t hired in Detroit until April 19, 2019, which means he’s only responsible for the 2019 & 2020 kids on your comment. Which includes Seider and Raymond. The rest of those kids are still developing. Very disingenuous of you, not to mention incorrect. Yzerman is the king!!
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