As has been discussed at length, the Canucks have to be one of the poorest NHL franchises at drafting and developing their own defencemen in NHL history. That definitely needs to change.
- LeftCoaster

Aside from QH & OJ you go back all the way to 2005 (Luc Bourdon) when VAN prioritized drafting a D in round one.

New regime, new plan! (I hope)
- LeftCoaster

Retooling sounds like an innovative and creative way to becoming a contender. Let's see how this new way of doing things works out.

Aside from QH & OJ you go back all the way to 2005 (Luc Bourdon) when VAN prioritized drafting a D in round one.
- VanHockeyGuy

Maybe this is the year? I wonder if Reinbacher or Pellikka will be available in their slot?

Retooling sounds like an innovative and creative way to becoming a contender. Let's see how this new way of doing things works out.
- Marwood

I don’t know what their plans are, I just hope whatever they are, they’re more successful at it than the last idiot who ran things into the ground. In his defence though, all the important core players, if you will, on the team are a product of his tenure and all his losing.

Retooling sounds like an innovative and creative way to becoming a contender. Let's see how this new way of doing things works out.
- Marwood

I get it, I wanted a rebuild as well. That said it's not happening, so as long as we're trading first's, do it again ++ and add another quality piece to the defence.

The future is now, the team can't wait for a quality D to come out of their system. They have to trade for one, or go the UFA route.

The cost of retooling while trying to stay competitive. Similar to treading water.
- Marwood

Yeah it's (frank)ing ridiculous. Giving away 1st and 2nd round picks like it's Halloween.

Aside from QH & OJ you go back all the way to 2005 (Luc Bourdon) when VAN prioritized drafting a D in round one.
- VanHockeyGuy

Been saying this for years, hopefully they can get one of the top 2 guys on d. Would be a good step.

I get it, I wanted a rebuild as well. That said it's not happening, so as long as we're trading first's, do it again ++ and add another quality piece to the defence.

The future is now, the team can't wait for a quality D to come out of their system. They have to trade for one, or go the UFA route.
- VanHockeyGuy

It really doesnt take for one to develop, i completely disagree with this logic. Fix the cap and draft a d. See if you can land a decent ufa dman. Id be very happy with an offseason like that.

It really doesnt take for one to develop, i completely disagree with this logic. Fix the cap and draft a d. See if you can land a decent ufa dman. Id be very happy with an offseason like that.
- neem55

These guys aren't ready, or were they just bad picks?

So what's a reasonable timeline then 4-8 years??

Jett Woo (2018)
Toni Utunen (2018)
Jack Rathbone (2017)
Guillaume Brisebois (2015)

Here are the D drafted in the first 3 rounds since 2009. Make no wonder.

2022 Elias Pettersson 2nd
2020 Joni Jurmo 3rd
2018 Quinn Hughes 1st
2018 Jett Woo 2nd
2016 Olli Juolevi 1st
2014 Nikita Tryamkin 3rd
2009 Kevin Connauton 3rd

Here are the D drafted in the first 3 rounds since 2009. Make no wonder.

2022 Elias Pettersson 2nd
2020 Joni Jurmo 3rd
2018 Quinn Hughes 1st
2018 Jett Woo 2nd
2016 Olli Juolevi 1st
2014 Nikita Tryamkin 3rd
2009 Kevin Connauton 3rd
- VanHockeyGuy

Without McWard and Johansson. Woo only righty.

Viktor Persson might have quit playing hockey mid season or the Pelicans just thought it better to not include him anymore

Without McWard and Johansson. Woo only righty.

Viktor Persson might have quit playing hockey mid season or the Pelicans just thought it better to not include him anymore
- manvanfan

If you go through the list it's clear they didn't value D until the later rounds for several years.

2019 draft (9 picks)---->>>NONE!

https://www.hockeydb.com/...aft/teams/dr00008756.html

Here are the D drafted in the first 3 rounds since 2009. Make no wonder.

2022 Elias Pettersson 2nd
2020 Joni Jurmo 3rd
2018 Quinn Hughes 1st
2018 Jett Woo 2nd
2016 Olli Juolevi 1st
2014 Nikita Tryamkin 3rd
2009 Kevin Connauton 3rd
- VanHockeyGuy

Gotta make better picks, plain and simple.

Gotta make better picks, plain and simple.
- LeftCoaster

That's only part of the issue, they didn't value D.

That's only part of the issue, they didn't value D.
- VanHockeyGuy

Probably a bigger issue, yes.

Probably a bigger issue, yes.
- LeftCoaster

Teams like CAR LAK for example have a different philosophy. The result is post season play.

If you go through the list it's clear they didn't value D until the later rounds for several years.

2019 draft (9 picks)---->>>NONE!

https://www.hockeydb.com/...aft/teams/dr00008756.html
- VanHockeyGuy

Why waste time drafting defense, when you can just sign 1st round failures like Johansson, or trade multiple picks to acquire one.

Why waste time drafting defense, when you can just sign 1st round failures like Johansson, or trade multiple picks to acquire one.
- Reubenkincade

Is this a PA burner account?

These guys aren't ready, or were they just bad picks?

So what's a reasonable timeline then 4-8 years??

Jett Woo (2018)
Toni Utunen (2018)
Jack Rathbone (2017)
Guillaume Brisebois (2015)
- VanHockeyGuy

They all have one thing in common

From what I know about Hronek so far, I like him.

If he comes as advertised why not pull off another similar deal?

They all have one thing in common
- neem55

Benning

Teams like CAR LAK for example have a different philosophy. The result is post season play.
- VanHockeyGuy

This kid should help bring them over the top.


https://www.capfriendly.c.../players/domenick-fensore

One attempt on tankathon, Canucks move down 2, draft 13th.

I get it, I wanted a rebuild as well. That said it's not happening, so as long as we're trading first's, do it again ++ and add another quality piece to the defence.

The future is now, the team can't wait for a quality D to come out of their system. They have to trade for one, or go the UFA route.
- VanHockeyGuy

👍🏻

Retooling sounds like an innovative and creative way to becoming a contender. Let's see how this new way of doing things works out.
- Marwood

Many teams that rebuild don’t succeed so it goes with retools as well. Doesn’t mean anything wrong with either method.