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Mancalledsting
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 10.12.2008

Apr 5 @ 12:27 PM ET
Probably my mistake but I’m going to go with these guys will play a little more inspired hockey and go 3-1. I’m prepared to be wrong.
- Cptmjl


3-1 The loss will be against Tampa but it could be Montreal knowing this team
ses111
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.07.2008

Apr 5 @ 12:38 PM ET
3-1 The loss will be against Tampa but it could be Montreal knowing this team

- Mancalledsting


Would have to play Tampa again.
nyisles7
New York Islanders
Location: Magical Lou, NY
Joined: 01.20.2009

Apr 5 @ 1:07 PM ET
Beauvillier that “barely a 3rd line player “ has found himself a home in Vancouver. 19 points with 9 goals in 28 games.
chazpet
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.22.2010

Apr 5 @ 1:12 PM ET
The home crowd will stay with them until they get a PP. When they can't even get the puck into the zone, that's when the crowd will turn, and who can blame them.
keaner17
New York Islanders
Location: REJECTED REFEREE
Joined: 07.12.2007

Apr 5 @ 1:37 PM ET
Beauvillier that “barely a 3rd line player “ has found himself a home in Vancouver. 19 points with 9 goals in 28 games.
- nyisles7

3g and 5a over his last 17 games. He's coming back to earth. We all knew he would do this. I hope he does well, but I'm fine with having moved him. It remains to be seen if the overall deal was the right decision.
keaner17
New York Islanders
Location: REJECTED REFEREE
Joined: 07.12.2007

Apr 5 @ 1:39 PM ET
Probably my mistake but I’m going to go with these guys will play a little more inspired hockey and go 3-1. I’m prepared to be wrong.
- Cptmjl

A little late on this, but no Pierre Engvall at practice. #Isles 
😬 (its a maintenance day, reportedly)
UIF
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 01.09.2009

Apr 5 @ 1:52 PM ET
3g and 5a over his last 17 games. He's coming back to earth. We all knew he would do this. I hope he does well, but I'm fine with having moved him. It remains to be seen if the overall deal was the right decision.
- keaner17


I agree. I don't know who said Beau was barely a 3rd liner...I'd have said he's stuck somewhere between a second and third liner. The problem is that describes too many of the Isles' forwards and they needed something beyond that. They had to move someone to shake things up, and Beau was probably the only real tradable asset they had out of that pack of forwards. If he takes off in Vancouver, God bless him. It's not like he wasn't given a fair chance to do that here.

The real question, as you said, is, was Horvat the right guy to get in that deal? I guess it's not looking so great at the moment, but time will tell.
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Apr 5 @ 1:52 PM ET
The home crowd will stay with them until they get a PP. When they can't even get the puck into the zone, that's when the crowd will turn, and who can blame them.
- chazpet

It’s funny the last few games I’ve been too the crowd barely cheers when they get a PP. Then the unit gets on the ice which of course leads to booing when they invariably cough up the puck and or can’t get anything to the net. Then the crowd completely turns on them which I’m sure makes it even more difficult for them to do anything productive.
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Apr 5 @ 1:52 PM ET
A little late on this, but no Pierre Engvall at practice. #Isles 
😬 (its a maintenance day, reportedly)

- keaner17



Perfect
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Apr 5 @ 1:56 PM ET
I agree. I don't know who said Beau was barely a 3rd liner...I'd have said he's stuck somewhere between a second and third liner. The problem is that describes too many of the Isles' forwards and they needed something beyond that. They had to move someone to shake things up, and Beau was probably the only real tradable asset they had out of that pack of forwards. If he takes off in Vancouver, God bless him. It's not like he wasn't given a fair chance to do that here.

The real question, as you said, is, was Horvat the right guy to get in that deal? I guess it's not looking so great at the moment, but time will tell.

- UIF

The guy wasn’t doing anything here it was time to move on. Maybe him not doing anything is a deeper problem within the organization who knows. Like you said he was given every opportunity to succeed here and didn’t to the point he was more a salary dump aspect of the trade then anything else. I’m sure there will be revisionist history on here like there always is. I wish him well and am happy he’s doing well in the western conference but don’t regret for a second him being gone even with Horvat not really demonstrating a whole heck of a lot.

As far as Horvat goes I’ll say what I said since the trade happened. If this deal was done two years ago I would’ve loved it. But for a team that didn’t make the playoffs last year and may miss again this year, with an aging roster, I think it was ill conceived especially with giving up a first in this draft.
UIF
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 01.09.2009

Apr 5 @ 1:57 PM ET
It’s funny the last few games I’ve been too the crowd barely cheers when they get a PP. Then the unit gets on the ice which of course leads to booing when they invariably cough up the puck and or can’t get anything to the net. Then the crowd completely turns on them which I’m sure makes it even more difficult for them to do anything productive.
- Cptmjl


Hey, they insisted on having a building that would amplify the crowd noise, now they have to deal with the impatient, had-it-up-to-here Isles fans
Wildschwein
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.17.2012

Apr 5 @ 1:59 PM ET
I agree. I don't know who said Beau was barely a 3rd liner...I'd have said he's stuck somewhere between a second and third liner. The problem is that describes too many of the Isles' forwards and they needed something beyond that. They had to move someone to shake things up, and Beau was probably the only real tradable asset they had out of that pack of forwards. If he takes off in Vancouver, God bless him. It's not like he wasn't given a fair chance to do that here.

The real question, as you said, is, was Horvat the right guy to get in that deal? I guess it's not looking so great at the moment, but time will tell.

- UIF


I think yes, but I’m not sure we’ll see the full benefit of that this year. The swap of team/city/country/coach/system must be one hell of thing to adjust to.
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Apr 5 @ 2:03 PM ET
Hey, they insisted on having a building that would amplify the crowd noise, now they have to deal with the impatient, had-it-up-to-here Isles fans
- UIF

It’s laughable at this point. From what I read Lambert decided to “mix up” the PP units just in time with four games left in the season.
ses111
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.07.2008

Apr 5 @ 2:04 PM ET
The guy wasn’t doing anything here it was time to move on. Maybe him not doing anything is a deeper problem within the organization who knows. Like you said he was given every opportunity to succeed here and didn’t to the point he was more a salary dump aspect of the trade then anything else. I’m sure there will be revisionist history on here like there always is. I wish him well and am happy he’s doing well in the western conference but don’t regret for a second him being gone even with Horvat not really demonstrating a whole heck of a lot.

As far as Horvat goes I’ll say what I said since the trade happened. If this deal was done two years ago I would’ve loved it. But for a team that didn’t make the playoffs last year and may miss again this year, with an aging roster, I think it was ill conceived especially with giving up a first in this draft.

- Cptmjl


Sorry if this is repeating things, but this team has an issue with having enough offense without the defense falling apart. Maybe Beau has more freedom or just needed a change? The Islanders do seem to have an issue with balancing good offense and defense.


It was all about the timing with the Bo trade. Lou seemed to have faith in the roster until the Bo trade. I get trades are tough, but just adding Romanov this offseason was not a good idea.
Wildschwein
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.17.2012

Apr 5 @ 2:05 PM ET
The guy wasn’t doing anything here it was time to move on. Maybe him not doing anything is a deeper problem within the organization who knows. Like you said he was given every opportunity to succeed here and didn’t to the point he was more a salary dump aspect of the trade then anything else. I’m sure they’ll be revisionist history on here like there always is. I wish him well and am happy he’s doing well in the western conference but don’t regret for a second him being gone even with Horvat not really demonstrating a whole heck of a lot.

As far as Horvat goes I’ll say what I said since the trade happened. If this deal was done two years ago I would’ve loved it. But for a team that didn’t make the playoffs last year and may miss again this year, with an aging roster, I think it was ill conceived especially with giving up a first in this draft.

- Cptmjl


That is certainly a valid concern.
UIF
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 01.09.2009

Apr 5 @ 2:06 PM ET
I think yes, but I’m not sure we’ll see the full benefit of that this year. The swap of team/city/country/coach/system must be one hell of thing to adjust to.
- Wildschwein


Yeah, I'm disappointed he hasn't scored more...we all know the Isles could sure use the goals. But I'm not ready to close the book on the guy yet. Heck, if all he becomes is a competent trigger man for Barzal, that'd be worth it!
ses111
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.07.2008

Apr 5 @ 2:07 PM ET
It’s funny the last few games I’ve been too the crowd barely cheers when they get a PP. Then the unit gets on the ice which of course leads to booing when they invariably cough up the puck and or can’t get anything to the net. Then the crowd completely turns on them which I’m sure makes it even more difficult for them to do anything productive.
- Cptmjl


Cannot blame the crowd at all. PP has been lousy for years.
ses111
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.07.2008

Apr 5 @ 2:11 PM ET
Yeah, I'm disappointed he hasn't scored more...we all know the Isles could sure use the goals. But I'm not ready to close the book on the guy yet. Heck, if all he becomes is a competent trigger man for Barzal, that'd be worth it!
- UIF


Bo and Barzal really looked good together. It's being able to improve the rest of the forward group that will be the issue this offseason. If the team misses the playoffs, that will only hurt in signing quality UFA's even more.
nyisles7
New York Islanders
Location: Magical Lou, NY
Joined: 01.20.2009

Apr 5 @ 2:26 PM ET
3g and 5a over his last 17 games. He's coming back to earth. We all knew he would do this. I hope he does well, but I'm fine with having moved him. It remains to be seen if the overall deal was the right decision.
- keaner17



I’m stoked that we got Horvat and wish Beau well. It might be he can wear his preferred jersey number 72?
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Apr 5 @ 2:33 PM ET
That is certainly a valid concern.
- Wildschwein

I’m not sure how but maybe he’ll find a way to get into the first round but I don’t really think that’s a concern for him.
nyisles7
New York Islanders
Location: Magical Lou, NY
Joined: 01.20.2009

Apr 5 @ 2:33 PM ET
I agree. I don't know who said Beau was barely a 3rd liner...I'd have said he's stuck somewhere between a second and third liner. The problem is that describes too many of the Isles' forwards and they needed something beyond that. They had to move someone to shake things up, and Beau was probably the only real tradable asset they had out of that pack of forwards. If he takes off in Vancouver, God bless him. It's not like he wasn't given a fair chance to do that here.

The real question, as you said, is, was Horvat the right guy to get in that deal? I guess it's not looking so great at the moment, but time will tell.

- UIF


Don’t remember where I heard that either, but I heard it over and over and over again
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Apr 5 @ 2:34 PM ET
Sorry if this is repeating things, but this team has an issue with having enough offense without the defense falling apart. Maybe Beau has more freedom or just needed a change? The Islanders do seem to have an issue with balancing good offense and defense.


It was all about the timing with the Bo trade. Lou seemed to have faith in the roster until the Bo trade. I get trades are tough, but just adding Romanov this offseason was not a good idea.

- ses111

I believe there’s some truth to this but ultimately the problem is depth imo. You can’t have your offensive guys skating around trying to hang on every game instead of pushing the play to the net.
ses111
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.07.2008

Apr 5 @ 2:41 PM ET
I believe there’s some truth to this but ultimately the problem is depth imo. You can’t have your offensive guys skating around trying to hang on every game instead of pushing the play to the net.
- Cptmjl


Just looking at a player like Wally, he has yet to break out and seemed to be very highly rated. Islanders have had issues reaching offensive minded players. I think the game has changed and the Islanders may be built towards an older style of play.
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Apr 5 @ 2:46 PM ET
Just looking at a player like Wally, he has yet to break out and seemed to be very highly rated. I think the game has changed and the Islanders may be built towards an older style of play.
- ses111

Maybe. The team needs to add some speed and scoring. That’s simplifying it of course but that’s the need I don’t think it’s a big secret.
ses111
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.07.2008

Apr 5 @ 2:48 PM ET
Maybe. The team needs to add some speed and scoring. That’s simplifying it of course but that’s the need I don’t think it’s a big secret.
- Cptmjl


Heavy defensive style seems to be a thing of the past. It's a lot of pressure on the goalie and defense. You still need to be able to score when needed and especially against the elite teams.
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