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Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Mar 30 @ 10:20 AM ET
4) Mitch Marner
- jd250


Dude is so underrated defensively.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Mar 30 @ 10:22 AM ET
I don't think it will be any of them. To be honest, Danny should be the President and then hire a GM, it doesn't make any sense otherwise. Torts is talking about how to build the team and not naming a captain next season. What if the new President doesn't agree with that approach or changes his/her mind after a year or so of being here? What then? Either the President is going to have authority which means Danny might be out of a job, or they are going to be a figure head only which is not good for anyone. That is why to me Danny should be the President of hockey Ops with real authority, and bring in a GM from the outside, someone like Mathieu Darche.
- jd250


There are questions of whether Briere is qualified to be the GM, let alone team president.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Mar 30 @ 10:26 AM ET
At the start of the season your dammed right I called Frost an AHL player because that is what he was playing like. Torts has coached Frost up, though recently and openly admitted he still does not have 100/% trust in Frost. Frost has apparently worked hard and taken the coaching, but the credit goes to Torts and his staff for working with the player. For the first time in a long time, we have a group of coaches that are actually developing the FLyers' younger players, and yet you still coimplain!
- jd250


It is known that you did. That he was playing like an AHL player at the start of the season is figment of your imagination. Just like Tortorella being the hands down winner of the Jack Adams award was a figment of your imagination. Ristolainen being one of the best defenseman in the NHL was a figment of your imagination. Fletcher putting the team on the path to the cup was a figment of your imagination. McAvoy not being one of the best defenseman in the league was a figment of your imagination. And on and on and on.
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Mar 30 @ 10:27 AM ET
According to SanFillipo the 3 names for the President of Hockey Ops - Ray Shero, Scott Mellanby, and Robert Esche.
- Trox88


Gird your loins, it's gonna be Ray Shero.
Peter Richards
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.24.2019

Mar 30 @ 10:28 AM ET
Dude is so underrated defensively.
- Tomahawk


the amount of takeaways he has is impressive
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Mar 30 @ 10:31 AM ET
the amount of takeaways he has is impressive
- Peter Richards


Strong PKer, strong defensive player, elite offensive player... he earns every penny of that $10M.

(I admit I may be biased tho lol)
StepfordSam
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 02.06.2017

Mar 30 @ 10:32 AM ET
Gird your loins, it's gonna be Ray Shero.
- Tomahawk


Yup. The giveaway was a week or two ago when Chuck was fired and the Flyers media "pre-empted" the conversation by saying Shero would be an outside hire.

The playbook isn't nearly as clever as they think it is.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Mar 30 @ 10:32 AM ET
Strong PKer, strong defensive player, elite offensive player... he earns every penny of that $10M.

(I admit I may be biased tho lol)

- Tomahawk


You're not. Although he is having a subpar season offensively, Matthews is right there as an overall player.
Peter Richards
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.24.2019

Mar 30 @ 10:32 AM ET
Gird your loins, it's gonna be Ray Shero.
- Tomahawk


if so, and danny has questions....shero was always able to pull off some ridiculous trades. some good, some bad of course, but seems he won more than he lost.
wcorvette
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Boynton Beach, FL
Joined: 10.03.2010

Mar 30 @ 10:33 AM ET
Frost has seven points in his last five games. His 24 points over his last 36 games — since the start of 2023 — leads the Flyers. And it goes beyond points. Philadelphia controlled 74.44 percent of the expected goals at five-on-five on Tuesday with Frost on the ice; a team-high mark. And that wasn’t a one-game anomaly, either. During the month of March, Frost has posted a 59.44 percent xG share across 12 games, an undeniably stellar rate that trails only Tippett among Flyers forwards over that span.

THE A
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Mar 30 @ 10:34 AM ET
Gird your loins, it's gonna be Ray Shero.
- Tomahawk



I don't have a problem with Ray Shero. He did pretty well with the Penguins.
Peter Richards
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.24.2019

Mar 30 @ 10:34 AM ET
You're not. Although he is having a subpar season offensively, Matthews is right there as an overall player.
- MJL


he has 95 points this year, two points away from a career high. how is this a subpar season for him?
Trox88
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.12.2020

Mar 30 @ 10:39 AM ET
I don't have a problem with Ray Shero. He did pretty well with the Penguins.
- MBFlyerfan


He did draft Hischier over Patrick, which at the time was not a slam dunk. My personal preference is Esche, but my bias usually leans towards "outside the box".
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Mar 30 @ 10:41 AM ET
He did draft Hischier over Patrick, which at the time was not a slam dunk. My personal preference is Esche, but my bias usually leans towards "outside the box".
- Trox88


I'm not crazy about any of them. I want fresh and innovative.
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Mar 30 @ 10:45 AM ET
I don't have a problem with Ray Shero. He did pretty well with the Penguins.
- MBFlyerfan


Chuck Fletcher could have won Cups w/ Sid, Geno, Flower and Letang to build around.

(I guess technically he did b/c he was their AGM lol)
Trox88
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.12.2020

Mar 30 @ 10:47 AM ET
I'm not crazy about any of them. I want fresh and innovative.
- MJL


Curious, when reviewing Esche's career after playing, why do you not consider him as "fresh and innovative"?
jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Mar 30 @ 10:51 AM ET
Gird your loins, it's gonna be Ray Shero.
- Tomahawk

I just don't think that will happen because of the optics of it. I think Comcast is well aware of fan sentiment right now and I would be shocked if they signed off on getting anyone in here that has ties to the Flyers.
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Mar 30 @ 10:52 AM ET
Frost has seven points in his last five games. His 24 points over his last 36 games — since the start of 2023 — leads the Flyers. And it goes beyond points. Philadelphia controlled 74.44 percent of the expected goals at five-on-five on Tuesday with Frost on the ice; a team-high mark. And that wasn’t a one-game anomaly, either. During the month of March, Frost has posted a 59.44 percent xG share across 12 games, an undeniably stellar rate that trails only Tippett among Flyers forwards over that span.

THE A

- wcorvette


Kid is just getting going. He has the talent to do some damage for years to come.
jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Mar 30 @ 10:54 AM ET
It is known that you did. That he was playing like an AHL player at the start of the season is figment of your imagination. Just like Tortorella being the hands down winner of the Jack Adams award was a figment of your imagination. Ristolainen being one of the best defenseman in the NHL was a figment of your imagination. Fletcher putting the team on the path to the cup was a figment of your imagination. McAvoy not being one of the best defenseman in the league was a figment of your imagination. And on and on and on.
- MJL

Aren't you tired of posting the same false things over and over again? How about instead you answer my post instead of spewing this tired rhetoric.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Mar 30 @ 10:54 AM ET
Curious, when reviewing Esche's career after playing, why do you not consider him as "fresh and innovative"?
- Trox88


To be honest, I don't really know that much about him. He just doesn't excite me. I'm more comfortable with someone with NHL experience that is not part of the "old guard" so to speak. There are many factors for me that come into play. I'm sort of looking for a middle ground. Someone who embraces the modern day NHL and how the game is played now. I can't tell you if that is Esche or not. Same with Briere. It's not that I think he can't do the job. It's that there is nothing to rely on to form an opinion. That makes me uncomfortable.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Mar 30 @ 10:55 AM ET
Aren't you tired of posting the same false things over and over again? How about instead you answer my post instead of spewing this tired rhetoric.
- jd250


None of what I posted is false. It is all representative of your posting history and goes to credibility.
corduroy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: “How many times is she gonna ask this f'n question?”, NT
Joined: 12.09.2006

Mar 30 @ 10:55 AM ET
Gird your loins, it's gonna be Ray Shero.
- Tomahawk


Isnt his kid a scout in the org? That should be enough to disqualify him
Peter Richards
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.24.2019

Mar 30 @ 10:57 AM ET
To be honest, I don't really know that much about him. He just doesn't excite me. I'm more comfortable with someone with NHL experience that is not part of the "old guard" so to speak. There are many factors for me that come into play. I'm sort of looking for a middle ground. Someone who embraces the modern day NHL and how the game is played now. I can't tell you if that is Esche or not. Same with Briere. It's not that I think he can't do the job. It's that there is nothing to rely on to form an opinion. That makes me uncomfortable.
- MJL


before making ignorant statements, look up what he was able to accomplish for the team and organization he is running. top notch.
jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Mar 30 @ 11:00 AM ET
There are questions of whether Briere is qualified to be the GM, let alone team president.
- MJL

I don't know. I think if you have a business degree and a name you can be an NHL team president. Its the GM job that to me is the most important job the Flyers need to get right this off season. The right person can hurl this team forward. The wrong person can set this team back another decade as we have seen in the past two GMs.
Trox88
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.12.2020

Mar 30 @ 11:00 AM ET
To be honest, I don't really know that much about him. He just doesn't excite me. I'm more comfortable with someone with NHL experience that is not part of the "old guard" so to speak. There are many factors for me that come into play. I'm sort of looking for a middle ground. Someone who embraces the modern day NHL and how the game is played now. I can't tell you if that is Esche or not. Same with Briere. It's not that I think he can't do the job. It's that there is nothing to rely on to form an opinion. That makes me uncomfortable.
- MJL


Appreciate the response, have a feeling the President will be named shortly after the season ends.
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